this has been fun, this is what it is all about. I believe the Lord is well-pleased. In re to past not being able to be shown to a person being shown the future, I step aside, because the WORD has no timeframe (alpha/omega) and this past not being able to be shown in a future context, well, realize that it isn't likely that you will persuade me that the past can not be shown to verify or be an asset to the overall future PLAN of the Lord's Revealing.
For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ, 1 Thes 5:9 KJV
Revelation 4:1 throws a very serious monkey wrench into your theory. Chapter 4 -> 22 are all future... (just moments after the "come up hither" statement we see this: "and I will shew thee things which must be hereafter.") = Future
In Revelation 1:19, Christ tells John to write down the past, present, and future.
Opening to the Book: Start = Revelation 1:1 End = Revelation 1:9
Past: Start = Revelation 1:10 End = Revelation 1:19
Present: Start = Revelation 1:20 End = Revelation 4:1
Hey uscgvet something I have come to learn from many on here and some YouTubers over the last few years is to not hold too tightly to things pertaining to future events. I now consider many differing views as no one can certify they are 100% accurate in their take (because the events havent happened yet).
I also admire your humility here
John 13:35 By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another.
It is a difficult thing to comment on. It's one thing to admit defeat in your own head, but to write it on the forums for all to see...that is hard and I admire your courage. Admitting you were wrong and that you "saw it" is good, its humbling and my spirit is overjoyed for you. Your heart wasnt hardened - do you understand how amazing that is!!
I don't have much time on the forums lately to reply to all the threads I been involved in, but I wanted to say in response to:
are all future... (just moments after the "come up hither" statement we see this: "and I will shew thee things which must be hereafter.") = Future
You don't have to agree. I am just explaining a possibility. John is shown "the things that must be hereafter" doesnt mean they all must be future. How can I say that? Let's start at the end...The bowls are future right? What about the Trumpets? Ok we can say they are future too...How does God show John the first Trumpet that begins? He'd have to explain to John that angels were given them to sound. Well, that happened when the 7th seal was opened. So now God needs to explain what the other 6 seals are...Well, what is sealed? a scroll, ok. Who opened it? How did he get it? etc.... Everything was needed to explain a central detail in order to show John "the things which must be hereafter".
So there are future events. Everyone agrees with that and is on board. But what is future? Right from the announcement or does the future events need to be explained because without explanation, there would be confusion? Which we have today.
Natalie: just wondering if every town could have a center of worship and an image of the beast to worship via hologram
Nov 29, 2020 19:17:02 GMT -6
Natalie: or in their own home. I think it's probably already been considered, but I didn't realize that personal hologram machines were actually being made and available.
Nov 29, 2020 19:26:32 GMT -6
EnochWalked: I could see the Saudis taking control of the Temple Mount next year (possibly as part of some bigger deal involving a Palestinian state, maybe with new leadership in Israel) but it might take another year for animal sacrifices to be allowed there.
Nov 30, 2020 11:51:39 GMT -6
EnochWalked: "Gantz has refused to say if Blue and White will support the bill. His party has been reportedly weighing putting forward its own bill to disperse the Knesset to avoid handing Yesh Atid credit for the move."
Nov 30, 2020 11:56:02 GMT -6