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Post by Natalie on Nov 14, 2019 8:50:38 GMT -6
OK, so, back when we were all looking at the Rev 12 sign, I used Stellarium to follow where Jupiter went after it was "born". When I got to May 2024, I noticed something interesting. Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, the moon, and the sun were all in the same area of the sky. I did a search and found that Uranus and Neptune were also there. 7 planets all together? a sign of 7 angels? So, I posted here and Sam picked up the ball and ran with it. He came back and told me that the part of the sky they were in is known as the Celestial Sea. The sea was "on fire" by the sun. Also, Pleiades "the congregation" was standing along the side. 33 days after the second American eclipse falls into the time frame where these planets are all lined up. Rev 15:1-2 Then I saw another sign in heaven, great and amazing, seven angels with seven plagues, which are the last, for with them the wrath of God is finished. And I saw what appeared to be a sea of glass mingled with fire—and also those who had conquered the beast and its image and the number of its name, standing beside the sea of glass with harps of God in their hands.
My picture is May 3, 2024. The progress lasts for a bit because they get into line and then move out of line. So, I can't say one date is the only date.
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Post by barbiosheepgirl on Nov 14, 2019 9:31:23 GMT -6
Natalie , I looked at some date durations. The duration between 9/23/2017 and 5/3/2024 is 2414 or 2415 depending on if you included the end date. For the sake of it I took 2520 (which is a completion of two partials, aka 1260) and there are yet 105/106 more days. The interesting thing about 105/106 days is if you divide by a 30 day Gregorian month average day, you get 3.5 months. Intersting too is that Tu'B Av is 3 days later. so yeah, 2520 days from 9/23/2017 or will be August 16/17/24 depending on your end date inclusion and in and around Tu B'Av..
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Post by mike on Nov 14, 2019 9:36:09 GMT -6
Natalie , I looked at some date durations. The duration between 9/23/2017 and 5/3/2024 is 2414 or 2415 depending on if you included the end date. For the sake of it I took 2520 (which is a completion of two partials, aka 1260) and there are yet 105/106 more days. The interesting thing about 105/106 days is if you divide by a 30 day Gregorian month average day, you get 3.5 months. Intersting too is that Tu'B Av is 3 days later. so yeah, 2520 days from 9/23/2017 or will be August 16/17/24 depending on your end date inclusion and in and around Tu B'Av.. I think Natalie is using the eclipse date 8/21/17
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Post by barbiosheepgirl on Nov 14, 2019 9:57:12 GMT -6
mike , yes, I see that but she posted a date of this congregation in the sky as 5/3/2024. Then she mentions the 7 sisters, but I was not connecting to the Pleides, I was looking at the 5/3/2024 point of time she freezeframed. for the record, the 2nd eclipse is 4/8/2024. I do find it noteworthy of the 33 days later count to the Pleides mention. Was not the 1st eclipse and the Sign 33 days apart? doing the math on 33 days puts us at 5/10/2024. It still is 3.5 months til the 2520 day count from the Sign, and, actually has 3.5 more connected to a lunar cycle. edit and comment: Lately for me is that the picture being declared in the heavens has to play out before something spiritual takes place on earth unlike any other time since Jesus walked the first time. I find it handy that it is a 7 year duration between the 2 eclipses. I also find it interesting that all our focus on the Sign and the things thereafter, have the eclipse of the USA occurring and this 'X' over Little Egypt in Illinois is significant. Why not have these eclipses over the middle east? I have not forgotten the 4 blood moons. Just making the statement that THIS country, the USA is a marker. Is relevant. Can I dare suggest something: I know the moon and its eclipsing is said to be for Israel. while the sun eclipsing is for the world. Not to cause controversy, but think of this: What is our Spiritual Israel currently? While one is physical, there is also a spiritual. While one is currently experiencing land grab disputes and enemy combatants, another is pained by a distortion of what is Truth of the Gospel and has many scars of religion (flesh/works) infiltrated throughout its Faith. Just prior to Christ's Return, the sun and the moon will be darkened. I believe that BOTH the church assemblies and the jew will experience something. For the Faithful, they will overcome, others who are not prepared with their oil of Faith will be tossed around like the waves. This is not Wrath. This is the current beast kingdom refusing to give up its reign spiritually affecting those whose faith is in their "works" and the physical aspect (jew) will see the controversy of Jerusalem befall them. I am trying to be very general here. I am considering the physical things (modern day Israel) that we see alongside with the Spiritual things (the race being run by the faithful who will endure until the end)
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Post by Natalie on Nov 14, 2019 13:40:34 GMT -6
Natalie , I looked at some date durations. The duration between 9/23/2017 and 5/3/2024 is 2414 or 2415 depending on if you included the end date. For the sake of it I took 2520 (which is a completion of two partials, aka 1260) and there are yet 105/106 more days. The interesting thing about 105/106 days is if you divide by a 30 day Gregorian month average day, you get 3.5 months. Intersting too is that Tu'B Av is 3 days later. so yeah, 2520 days from 9/23/2017 or will be August 16/17/24 depending on your end date inclusion and in and around Tu B'Av.. I think Natalie is using the eclipse date 8/21/17 Yes 33 days from first eclipse to 9/23/17 and then 33 days from 4/8/24. Sorry about that.
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Post by yardstick on Nov 17, 2019 1:49:17 GMT -6
OK, so, back when we were all looking at the Rev 12 sign, I used Stellarium to follow where Jupiter went after it was "born". When I got to May 2024, I noticed something interesting. Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, the moon, and the sun were all in the same area of the sky. I did a search and found that Uranus and Neptune were also there. 7 planets all together? a sign of 7 angels? So, I posted here and Sam picked up the ball and ran with it. He came back and told me that the part of the sky they were in is known as the Celestial Sea. The sea was "on fire" by the sun. Also, Pleiades "the congregation" was standing along the side. 33 days after the second American eclipse falls into the time frame where these planets are all lined up. Rev 15:1-2 Then I saw another sign in heaven, great and amazing, seven angels with seven plagues, which are the last, for with them the wrath of God is finished. And I saw what appeared to be a sea of glass mingled with fire—and also those who had conquered the beast and its image and the number of its name, standing beside the sea of glass with harps of God in their hands.
My picture is May 3, 2024. The progress lasts for a bit because they get into line and then move out of line. So, I can't say one date is the only date.
Have you considered the possibility that the range of time you are talking about is the range of time representing the pouring out of the 7 bowls (in a symbolic representation)? That's why it isnt something that occurs on a single day, but over the course of many days.
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Post by Natalie on Nov 17, 2019 7:45:07 GMT -6
Yes, that could be why.
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Post by mike on Nov 19, 2019 6:42:08 GMT -6
bondservant - this says part 3 and at the beginning he (Thad) mentions the last sermon regarding Rev 12. I think this is the next in the series, which brings excitement for me! Perhaps the point here to be taken is that we are in 7 years of plenty. Although the world around us is falling apart with wars and rumors of wars and ungodly ways being pushed very hard into the mainstream (and as law). What will occur in 2024 could be compounded greatly Oh davewatchman you would love this, where have you been brother
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Post by bondservant on Nov 20, 2019 16:29:15 GMT -6
The chart he presents is mind boggling. He has tried to explain it to me a couple times but it wasn't until I saw that chart that it made sense.
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Post by mike on Nov 20, 2019 17:02:07 GMT -6
The chart he presents is mind boggling. He has tried to explain it to me a couple times but it wasn't until I saw that chart that it made sense. Do you mean the one at the end, the 2550 days and associated dates?
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Post by bondservant on Nov 21, 2019 9:32:28 GMT -6
Yes
2550 - 1260 = 1290
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Post by Natalie on Nov 21, 2019 14:40:41 GMT -6
One thing I have been thinking about...what would the 7 years of plenty look like? Is it physical or spiritual?
Because at the moment, I consider all the world wide flooding, fires, hurricanes, tornadoes, earthquakes, droughts, pestilence, corruption, persecution, spiritual warfare wearing people down, apathy, lawlessness, people leaving the faith, apostasy...doesn't seem like plenty. I do know that there are many in places like Iran and China who are coming to Christ. Economies in Israel and the US are doing well, but world history is not US-centric and we must look outside our nation. I guess I would think that if it was a spiritual revival then the missionaries our church supports would be seeing many converts, and they just aren't.
Am I just missing it?
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Post by mike on Nov 21, 2019 17:35:04 GMT -6
Natalie - my take on the signs is the He left no room for us to be confused. It isn't one or the other it is both! Seas and Waves roaring - sure...is that the ocean?, I believe it is. Are people referred to as seas, Yup! Earthquakes in various places - ask fitz, he and bernie record all of them for us! Earthquakes were also considered to be governmental uprisings. There's no ambiguity there. Now if you take the view of the US not being a part of the region of the Middle East and not mentioned in the Bible (that we can say with certainty) then if ALL NATIONS turn against Israel, then ALL nation's are against Israel! It is all in front of us my dear sister! Our King is coming!
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Post by bondservant on Nov 22, 2019 14:06:54 GMT -6
One thing I have been thinking about...what would the 7 years of plenty look like? Is it physical or spiritual? Because at the moment, I consider all the world wide flooding, fires, hurricanes, tornadoes, earthquakes, droughts, pestilence, corruption, persecution, spiritual warfare wearing people down, apathy, lawlessness, people leaving the faith, apostasy...doesn't seem like plenty. I do know that there are many in places like Iran and China who are coming to Christ. Economies in Israel and the US are doing well, but world history is not US-centric and we must look outside our nation. I guess I would think that if it was a spiritual revival then the missionaries our church supports would be seeing many converts, and they just aren't. Am I just missing it? I understand. It may even be harder for you to see it after your husband got laid off. I have trouble seeing it in the natural because as almost all of my investments are down. I am heavily tied to the oil industry more specifically the Oil Services sector. So I could ask "Where is my plenty?" ... but if I step back and see what is really happening then I get excited and can see the big picture that we are truly blessed to see. The revelation of being able to see these signs is a blessing in itself because we are not seeking signs. They should help stir up our faith and know that even if we are walking in the valley of the shadow of death the goodness and mercy are soon to follow. The only reason we are in the shadows is because just beyond that mountain is the Son coming to eliminate all the darkness. Even if all my stocks went to zero then I still have plenty to be thankful for.
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Post by Natalie on Nov 22, 2019 21:46:24 GMT -6
It is a blessing...I wouldn't trade this watching for His return for anything.
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