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Post by mike on Aug 24, 2017 11:47:47 GMT -6
so Yardstick are you saying these symbols were created by the Lord for His usage and perverted? Or the Lord created them (perhaps not for specific usage, although everything He does has a purpose) and they were eventually perverted?
Maybe more simplified...the tesseract was created for what purpose? (Do you have a inclination, i sure dont) then satan robbed it to use it today for false religions? Hopefully my question to help me understand makes sense.
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Post by yardstick on Aug 25, 2017 0:07:08 GMT -6
No. I am suggesting that they are some of the mathematical representations of the some of the structures of the universe. Of creation. Mathematicians and engineers have discovered what they are, but do not necessarily understand how they are applied to the 'fabric' of the cosmos.
I am also suggesting, that antediluvian knowledge was MUCH more advanced than we are let to believe. Just taking the logical converse of the scriptural passage Matt 24:37 demonstrates what I am referring to:
Given our current level of technological advancement, and I am not necessarily referring to the technology that is commonly available to the average every day person; but the knowledge withheld from the general population... Imagine that our technology was available before the flood (because according to the above passage, it was). Now, what kinds of things do you think the angels that left their original 'estate' were capable of, given that their knowledge (including multidimensional mathematics and such) was/is much greater than our own; and that they would have had available to them technology levels that are at least a little more advanced than what we have now?
But the short answer to your tesseract question, is that other than being able to mathematically model multi-dimensional objects, we cannot reproduce them in our 3-dimensional plane. That is, there is no known practical application for such structures.
I should point out that if someone were capable of harnessing some of those 4D+ universe structures (and IMHO we, as 3-D beings aren't) one might be able to use those universe structures to accomplish some purpose. But because we are finite beings, we are incapable of using said structures, as they require 4+ dimensional presence to manipulate/function. Kinda like a fish trying to fly (nothwithstanding the 'flying fish' species), or a dog that is not color blind.
I should further point out, by way of speculation, that the Angels may also have some kind of multidimensional limitation which prevents them from having dominion.
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Post by mike on Aug 25, 2017 8:37:42 GMT -6
No. I am suggesting that they are some of the mathematical representations of the some of the structures of the universe. Of creation. Mathematicians and engineers have discovered what they are, but do not necessarily understand how they are applied to the 'fabric' of the cosmos. I am also suggesting, that antediluvian knowledge was MUCH more advanced than we are let to believe. Just taking the logical converse of the scriptural passage Matt 24:37 demonstrates what I am referring to: Given our current level of technological advancement, and I am not necessarily referring to the technology that is commonly available to the average every day person; but the knowledge withheld from the general population... Imagine that our technology was available before the flood (because according to the above passage, it was). Now, what kinds of things do you think the angels that left their original 'estate' were capable of, given that their knowledge (including multidimensional mathematics and such) was/is much greater than our own; and that they would have had available to them technology levels that are at least a little more advanced than what we have now? But the short answer to your tesseract question, is that other than being able to mathematically model multi-dimensional objects, we cannot reproduce them in our 3-dimensional plane. That is, there is no known practical application for such structures. I should point out that if someone were capable of harnessing some of those 4D+ universe structures (and IMHO we, as 3-D beings aren't) one might be able to use those universe structures to accomplish some purpose. But because we are finite beings, we are incapable of using said structures, as they require 4+ dimensional presence to manipulate/function. Kinda like a fish trying to fly (nothwithstanding the 'flying fish' species), or a dog that is not color blind. I should further point out, by way of speculation, that the Angels may also have some kind of multidimensional limitation which prevents them from having dominion. Ok. I think i get it a little more...I do have an understanding that the ancients had knowledge that we are just starting to become aware of or even greater. Probably greater. given some of the things found from the ancient world, like the pyramids or other megaliths, we can say they had some form of technology and of course great size and strength. We have been lied to for centuries about the dawn of civilization, thinking they were so primitive and we so advanced. Quite contrary, but that's likely another thread  |
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Post by danielle on Aug 25, 2017 9:48:19 GMT -6
That symbols been around waaaay longer than however long the Zionist have been using it..The picture below illustrates the transmutation of the Seal of Saturn into the Star of David..  The 3-D cube you have represented, as well as a number of other symbols appear to be renditions of multi-dimensional objects: namely, a Tesseract. 'Waaaaay' longer, indeed. As in, before creation. It is not uncommon for Satan to corrupt the things of God. There has been ample evidence of corruption of the creations of God elaborated on in other threads. Here are some links to stuff related to Tesseracts. I think you will see the parallels. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tesseract A Tesseract - A 4D 'cube', aka 'hypercube'. 'Connect the dots' on your 3D representation and I think you will see it. You'll notice the 'kabbalah' versions are 'lesser'/'weaker' versions of the Tesseract? Here is the 'original' hexagonal shape of double tetrahedron that you show above. Notice the 'crossbars' that run through the middle and converge in the center:  It looks an awful lot like the pics you posted are 2D representations of the 4D Tesseract, doesn't it? 'Lesser' versions by way of their dimensionality? By-the-way, the 8-pointed star of lakshmi, which is the star used by the muslims for halal symbology is also a simplified ('dumbed down') 16 cell orthogonal B 4 Tesseract projection. Something else that Satan has appeared to corrupt... en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regular_4-polytope#Regular_convex_4-polytopes The 5-cell projection may be more familiar:   How about the orthogonal projection of an icosahedron (20 sided polygon)  Try digging into Schlegel Diagrams and other mathematically geometric forms, and you'll find a lot of stuff that God created as mathematical models underlying the creation. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schlegel_diagramThese models have no power in and of themselves. They are models pointing to the Creator, and demonstrating that 'randomness' in the creation does not come from the creation (but IMHO) from the fall in the Garden, where it was introduced to the Creation (entropy). If you are saved, these symbols cannot have power over you unless you let them, because you are empowered by the Holy Spirit. No one can take you from the Creator's hand. Isa 43:13 And just to 'drive a stake in the heart'... Even the unregenerate heathen cannot help themselves but to demonstrate the glory of God:  A 4D hypercube representation of the crucifixion by Salvador Dali. |
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Post by yardstick on Aug 25, 2017 11:26:19 GMT -6
No. I am suggesting that they are some of the mathematical representations of the some of the structures of the universe. Of creation. Mathematicians and engineers have discovered what they are, but do not necessarily understand how they are applied to the 'fabric' of the cosmos. I am also suggesting, that antediluvian knowledge was MUCH more advanced than we are let to believe. Just taking the logical converse of the scriptural passage Matt 24:37 demonstrates what I am referring to: Given our current level of technological advancement, and I am not necessarily referring to the technology that is commonly available to the average every day person; but the knowledge withheld from the general population... Imagine that our technology was available before the flood (because according to the above passage, it was). Now, what kinds of things do you think the angels that left their original 'estate' were capable of, given that their knowledge (including multidimensional mathematics and such) was/is much greater than our own; and that they would have had available to them technology levels that are at least a little more advanced than what we have now? But the short answer to your tesseract question, is that other than being able to mathematically model multi-dimensional objects, we cannot reproduce them in our 3-dimensional plane. That is, there is no known practical application for such structures. I should point out that if someone were capable of harnessing some of those 4D+ universe structures (and IMHO we, as 3-D beings aren't) one might be able to use those universe structures to accomplish some purpose. But because we are finite beings, we are incapable of using said structures, as they require 4+ dimensional presence to manipulate/function. Kinda like a fish trying to fly (nothwithstanding the 'flying fish' species), or a dog that is not color blind. I should further point out, by way of speculation, that the Angels may also have some kind of multidimensional limitation which prevents them from having dominion. Ok. I think i get it a little more...I do have an understanding that the ancients had knowledge that we are just starting to become aware of or even greater. Probably greater. given some of the things found from the ancient world, like the pyramids or other megaliths, we can say they had some form of technology and of course great size and strength. We have been lied to for centuries about the dawn of civilization, thinking they were so primitive and we so advanced. Quite contrary, but that's likely another thread I just read an article today about a couple of math profs who researched the P322 cuneiform tablet (Plimpton 322 Tablet) and discovered that it was in fact a trig table that the Babylonians used 1000+ years before the Greeks developed the Pythagorean Theorem. The counter-argument for the hypothesis was largely described as "They never actually used the information on the tablets for any practical purpose." Nevermind the Hanging Gardens of Babylon (one of the 7 wonders of the ancient world) , or the canal systems, or any of the other civil engineering feats the Babylonians accomplished... Interesting that they used base 60 as a numbering system though. Base 60 is much easier to get precise values than a base 10 numbering system... |
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Post by mike on Aug 25, 2017 11:39:19 GMT -6
I just read an article today about a couple of math profs who researched the P322 cuneiform tablet (Plimpton 322 Tablet) and discovered that it was in fact a trig table that the Babylonians used 1000+ years before the Greeks developed the Pythagorean Theorem. The counter-argument for the hypothesis was largely described as "They never actually used the information on the tablets for any practical purpose." Nevermind the Hanging Gardens of Babylon (one of the 7 wonders of the ancient world) , or the canal systems, or any of the other civil engineering feats the Babylonians accomplished... Interesting that they used base 60 as a numbering system though. Base 60 is much easier to get precise values than a base 10 numbering system... I saw the link on Google News, but didnt look at it. I am fascinated learning that they likely knew more than we do now. I know it likely had a lot to do with demon influence of some sort though |
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Post by yardstick on Aug 25, 2017 12:19:17 GMT -6
I just read an article today about a couple of math profs who researched the P322 cuneiform tablet (Plimpton 322 Tablet) and discovered that it was in fact a trig table that the Babylonians used 1000+ years before the Greeks developed the Pythagorean Theorem. The counter-argument for the hypothesis was largely described as "They never actually used the information on the tablets for any practical purpose." Nevermind the Hanging Gardens of Babylon (one of the 7 wonders of the ancient world) , or the canal systems, or any of the other civil engineering feats the Babylonians accomplished... Interesting that they used base 60 as a numbering system though. Base 60 is much easier to get precise values than a base 10 numbering system... I saw the link on Google News, but didnt look at it. I am fascinated learning that they likely knew more than we do now. I know it likely had a lot to do with demon influence of some sort thoughWhile the bolded is possible, I am not sure I agree with it. Look how little time it took us to get from horse and buggy (1890) to microcomputers and quantum computing (coming up) - a little over 100 years... That's a tiny amount of time. Compare it to the Millennium or timeline below; for instance, to get a sense of the degree to which we have been able to advance technologically: Swords, shields, plate armor, start of modern metallurgy (wootz, Damascus steel) 1500s Gunpowder: mid 16th c (~100+ years) Industrial Revolution - heavy industry: late 1700s (~100+ years) Automobile - mass production: 1900 (~100+ years) Quantum Computing - bio-information technology: 2025 (~100+ years) and that is essentially starting from scratch, with no knowledge base (as they were destroyed through wars, natural disasters, i.e. library of alexandria, and the imposition of one culture on another)... Can you imagine how little time it would take us to technologically return to where we are now, during the 'perfect' millennium (after a flood-like complete destruction of our 'modern' world)? My bet is on less than 200 years, to go from pre-bronze age technology to microcomputers. Something that took us (due to an sinful world) more than 2000 years! BTW thats even if we need that stuff. My current hypothesis is that with our 'new body' we will be using telekinesis, telepathy and teleportation to get everything done! No tech required! Now, those who are unsaved, but who make it through the trib... that's another story... |
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Post by mike on Aug 25, 2017 13:00:56 GMT -6
I simply havent investigated enough to make an assumption beyond what I said earlier. Unfortunately I dont have a lot of time the next few days to delve into anything like that either. May not have time to figure it out before we depart We know how old the world/civilization was up to Noah right? Roughly 1600-1700 years? So everything that existed was destroyed and I think a lot of it buried in mud, sand, soot, silt etc. Not saying they had quantum mechanics figured out, but IF they had some form of supernatural knowledge, wouldnt it take at least as long to replicate that? On top of that the "beings" providing that were also wiped out (although somehow a slice of their genetics remained in one of the wives on the ark-Shem's) so the knowledge went along with that. IDK I believe its possible. This kind of stuff keeps me open to the ideas. Not sure if youve read Enoch or not but some of that is also gleaned from there. |
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Post by danielle on Aug 26, 2017 4:43:41 GMT -6
That symbols been around waaaay longer than however long the Zionist have been using it..The picture below illustrates the transmutation of the Seal of Saturn into the Star of David.. The 3-D cube you have represented, as well as a number of other symbols appear to be renditions of multi-dimensional objects: namely, a Tesseract. 'Waaaaay' longer, indeed. As in, before creation. It is not uncommon for Satan to corrupt the things of God. There has been ample evidence of corruption of the creations of God elaborated on in other threads. Here are some links to stuff related to Tesseracts. I think you will see the parallels. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tesseract A Tesseract - A 4D 'cube', aka 'hypercube'. 'Connect the dots' on your 3D representation and I think you will see it. You'll notice the 'kabbalah' versions are 'lesser'/'weaker' versions of the Tesseract? Here is the 'original' hexagonal shape of double tetrahedron that you show above. Notice the 'crossbars' that run through the middle and converge in the center: It looks an awful lot like the pics you posted are 2D representations of the 4D Tesseract, doesn't it? 'Lesser' versions by way of their dimensionality? By-the-way, the 8-pointed star of lakshmi, which is the star used by the muslims for halal symbology is also a simplified ('dumbed down') 16 cell orthogonal B 4 Tesseract projection. Something else that Satan has appeared to corrupt... en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regular_4-polytope#Regular_convex_4-polytopesThe 5-cell projection may be more familiar: How about the orthogonal projection of an icosahedron (20 sided polygon) Try digging into Schlegel Diagrams and other mathematically geometric forms, and you'll find a lot of stuff that God created as mathematical models underlying the creation. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schlegel_diagramThese models have no power in and of themselves. They are models pointing to the Creator, and demonstrating that 'randomness' in the creation does not come from the creation (but IMHO) from the fall in the Garden, where it was introduced to the Creation (entropy). If you are saved, these symbols cannot have power over you unless you let them, because you are empowered by the Holy Spirit. No one can take you from the Creator's hand. Isa 43:13 And just to 'drive a stake in the heart'... Even the unregenerate heathen cannot help themselves but to demonstrate the glory of God: A 4D hypercube representation of the crucifixion by Salvador Dali. I do not believe anyone knows the date of the rapture. But this I find interesting: The six pointed star and the kabah stone link. It sounds like the pact between the Masonic government of Israel and the Persian empire government - when they invade Israel with the help of Russia. Islam= the abomination of desolation. Great research! |
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Post by yardstick on Aug 26, 2017 19:38:02 GMT -6
The 3-D cube you have represented, as well as a number of other symbols appear to be renditions of multi-dimensional objects: namely, a Tesseract. 'Waaaaay' longer, indeed. As in, before creation. It is not uncommon for Satan to corrupt the things of God. There has been ample evidence of corruption of the creations of God elaborated on in other threads. Here are some links to stuff related to Tesseracts. I think you will see the parallels. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tesseract A Tesseract - A 4D 'cube', aka 'hypercube'. 'Connect the dots' on your 3D representation and I think you will see it. You'll notice the 'kabbalah' versions are 'lesser'/'weaker' versions of the Tesseract? Here is the 'original' hexagonal shape of double tetrahedron that you show above. Notice the 'crossbars' that run through the middle and converge in the center: It looks an awful lot like the pics you posted are 2D representations of the 4D Tesseract, doesn't it? 'Lesser' versions by way of their dimensionality? By-the-way, the 8-pointed star of lakshmi, which is the star used by the muslims for halal symbology is also a simplified ('dumbed down') 16 cell orthogonal B 4 Tesseract projection. Something else that Satan has appeared to corrupt... en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regular_4-polytope#Regular_convex_4-polytopesThe 5-cell projection may be more familiar: How about the orthogonal projection of an icosahedron (20 sided polygon) Try digging into Schlegel Diagrams and other mathematically geometric forms, and you'll find a lot of stuff that God created as mathematical models underlying the creation. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schlegel_diagramThese models have no power in and of themselves. They are models pointing to the Creator, and demonstrating that 'randomness' in the creation does not come from the creation (but IMHO) from the fall in the Garden, where it was introduced to the Creation (entropy). If you are saved, these symbols cannot have power over you unless you let them, because you are empowered by the Holy Spirit. No one can take you from the Creator's hand. Isa 43:13 And just to 'drive a stake in the heart'... Even the unregenerate heathen cannot help themselves but to demonstrate the glory of God: A 4D hypercube representation of the crucifixion by Salvador Dali. I do not believe anyone knows the date of the rapture. But this I find interesting: The six pointed star and the kabah stone link. It sounds like the pact between the Masonic government of Israel and the Persian empire government - when they invade Israel with the help of Russia. Islam= the abomination of desolation. Great research! I am not sure I made such a connection. |
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Post by yardstick on Aug 26, 2017 19:40:03 GMT -6
I simply havent investigated enough to make an assumption beyond what I said earlier. Unfortunately I dont have a lot of time the next few days to delve into anything like that either. May not have time to figure it out before we depart We know how old the world/civilization was up to Noah right? Roughly 1600-1700 years? So everything that existed was destroyed and I think a lot of it buried in mud, sand, soot, silt etc. Not saying they had quantum mechanics figured out, but IF they had some form of supernatural knowledge, wouldnt it take at least as long to replicate that? On top of that the "beings" providing that were also wiped out (although somehow a slice of their genetics remained in one of the wives on the ark-Shem's) so the knowledge went along with that. IDK I believe its possible. This kind of stuff keeps me open to the ideas. Not sure if youve read Enoch or not but some of that is also gleaned from there. Several years back I heard about someone finding a fossilized spark plug. The spark plug was approximately 50 years old. |
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Post by mike on Aug 28, 2017 5:49:54 GMT -6
I simply havent investigated enough to make an assumption beyond what I said earlier. Unfortunately I dont have a lot of time the next few days to delve into anything like that either. May not have time to figure it out before we depart We know how old the world/civilization was up to Noah right? Roughly 1600-1700 years? So everything that existed was destroyed and I think a lot of it buried in mud, sand, soot, silt etc. Not saying they had quantum mechanics figured out, but IF they had some form of supernatural knowledge, wouldnt it take at least as long to replicate that? On top of that the "beings" providing that were also wiped out (although somehow a slice of their genetics remained in one of the wives on the ark-Shem's) so the knowledge went along with that. IDK I believe its possible. This kind of stuff keeps me open to the ideas. Not sure if youve read Enoch or not but some of that is also gleaned from there. Several years back I heard about someone finding a fossilized spark plug. The spark plug was approximately 50 years old. thank you my friend |
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Post by IAOALGIV on Aug 28, 2017 9:19:39 GMT -6
I'm still not convinced that "no man knoweth the hour" or however it goes..I mean 6000 years of human history..You mean to tell me there have been no instances of psychics, mediums, soothsayers etc..
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Post by mike on Aug 28, 2017 9:33:24 GMT -6
I'm still not convinced that "no man knoweth the hour" or however it goes..I mean 6000 years of human history..You mean to tell me there have been no instances of psychics, mediums, soothsayers etc.. I've pasted from the English Standard Version for a reference of "how it goes". Psychics, mediums and such would not know the time of his coming. (If they were truly "tapped into" the darkness, perhaps they would have similar knowledge as we do today as the enemy of our souls knows the Word as well or better.) Jesus in human form did not know the timing. I think he was pretty clear on no one knowing. Leading up to the verses below he explains signs that will provide us with clues as to the timing. As the time draws ever closer we have been able to identify His coming further by properly interpreting His word through His Spirit. EDIT - even as the "soothsayers" were not able to properly identify His first arrival, likewise with the second. They made the attempt to destroy Him, killing all babies under 2 yrs but our Lord knows the tricks of the enemy Matt 24:36 “ But concerning that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, nor the Son, but the Father only. 37 For as were the days of Noah, so will be the coming of the Son of Man. 38 For as in those days before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day when Noah entered the ark, 39 and they were unaware until the flood came and swept them all away, so will be the coming of the Son of Man. 40 Then two men will be in the field; one will be taken and one left. 41 Two women will be grinding at the mill; one will be taken and one left. 42 Therefore, stay awake, for you do not know on what day your Lord is coming. 43 But know this, that if the master of the house had known in what part of the night the thief was coming, he would have stayed awake and would not have let his house be broken into. 44 Therefore you also must be ready, for the Son of Man is coming at an hour you do not expect." |
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Post by IAOALGIV on Aug 28, 2017 11:06:15 GMT -6
Thanks for the reply..i'm still not convinced though..I mean that's what being psychic is right?? To be able to see things before they happen..why would Jesus' return be any different? I think the truth is out there..just intertwined with misinformation..
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