Revelation 12 Sign Berean Study

Really appreciated this video, paulwatchmandawson. Thank you, and keeping you in prayer, and all of the watchers. After watching it I had to read in Acts again. What really stood out to me -almost startled me, actually- was how energized, vibrant, and spirit filled the early church was. This is a heavy time. Sure hope to See You (and everyone!!) In The Sky! For Easter!

Also, thank you for your encouraging words at the end. We are in good company and indeed "the watchmen will see eye to eye"! Loved that.

"DO NOT MOCK the Rapture of the Church!".

Thank you once again, Paul, for a powerful message. I want to listen to it again with my Bible open to make notes.

Thanks davewatchman - I thought the whole 56 mins was worth my time but that last minute brought it home! Pauls seriousness brings it for me

Hopefully, Paul comes along with his thoughts.

I have often wondered if 12:3-6 is a summary of 12:7-16.

Satan is in a war trying to defeat Israel and the Church (who are defended by Michael and others) but is once and for all kicked out of heaven, taking fallen angels with him. (7-10 shown in the sign of 3-4) The Church is in heaven at this point (vs 11-12 shown in 5) Satan - probably as the AC - pursues the Jewish people who flee to the wilderness. (13-16 shown in 6) He can't get them so he goes after tribulation believers. (17 which is not seen in 1-6))

Hiya, In Rev 12, the child (Church) is caught up and then the woman, Israel, goes into the wilderness. This fleeing into the wilderness will be after a gap of 3.5 years.


The blindness of Israel is removed by the coming in of the Gentiles - Romans 11:25. The Jews will NEVER read the Gospel unless the rapture of the Church proves Messiah. If the rapture were to happen mid-week i.e. after billions of people have already died, 1/3rd of the world is practically destroyed, the mark is already being forced onto mankind, then Jews (and others) would not have had an opportunity to read the Gospel or know the truth - the Jews would just think it is YHVH and the others their own false gods. It's the being left behind that deems a person in wrong standing.

If the rapture were to happen mid-week, all the people of the world have no reason to reject the mark of the beast, simply because the truth of the rapture has not deemed their decision to take the mark a damnable offence. The mark is a direct result of people going missing, who is left behind? Let's catalogue people so we can tell who is here and get them into a database. If the rapture were to happen mid-week, the Church would be here with the Two Witnesses so the whole programme doesn't make sense. 

Not only the Jews blindness but, along with them, the whole world's blindness is removed - Atheists, Muslims, Buddhists, Mormons, Hindus, Jehovah's Witnesses, Catholics etc. - their blindness to the truth is removed by the rapture. The Harpazo is the essential catalyst of proof which is the supporting factor regarding the salvation of mankind in the Tribulation, giving them the confidence in the decision they need to take as martyrs. God is kind! They are then given the opportunity to repent and know the truth. When the blindness of the world is removed, then they who are of the flock of the Messiah shall see. He removes the blindness and they see, then they can repent.

If the rapture were to happen mid-trib there then is no time or reason for people to repent or read the Gospel. God proves faith, eternity and heaven with the rapture. Death is swallowed up in victory proving everything to the tribulation saints. Then His second destruction by fire, by the same word as the flood, begins. Everyone is hiding in their homes in Revelation 6 and they know it's the wrath of the Lamb.