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Post by MissusMack08 on Sept 19, 2017 17:12:46 GMT -6
My brain came back online. The only thing I can see as a potential criticism (apart from maybe Natalie's) is that the 11th-hour workers still worked for 1 hour, as evidenced by the text. The 11th hour could still be one hour prior to the 6:46pm showing? I don't think I understand... |
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Post by yardstick on Sept 19, 2017 17:18:49 GMT -6
To the Jewish people, The Genesis 37 account of Josephs dreams might be exactly how the September 23d sign might just explained as a messianic arrival rather than the Rapture. Let’s take a look…
Genesis 37:5 Now Joseph had a dream, and he told it to his brothers; and they hated him even more. 6 So he said to them, “Please hear this dream which I have dreamed: 7 There we were, binding sheaves in the field. Then behold, my sheaf arose and also stood upright; and indeed your sheaves stood all around and bowed down to my sheaf.”
8 And his brothers said to him, “Shall you indeed reign over us? Or shall you indeed have dominion over us?” So they hated him even more for his dreams and for his words.
9 Then he dreamed still another dream and told it to his brothers, and said, “Look, I have dreamed another dream. And this time, the sun, the moon, and the eleven stars bowed down to me.”
10 So he told it to his father and his brothers; and his father rebuked him and said to him, “What is this dream that you have dreamed? Shall your mother and I and your brothers indeed come to bow down to the earth before you?” 11 And his brothers envied him, but his father kept the matter in mind.
If you were the Anti-Christ (hang in there…I know you are not), this is how you could explain to the Jews what just happened with the Revelation 12 sigh… He would say...
“I AM the fulfillment of this scripture, I am the Messiah, worship ME!
Somehow, the Rapture will be explained away!
Sounds suspiciously like one of the counter-arguments put forth related to the Rev 12:1 / Sept 23 sign. |
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Post by yardstick on Sept 19, 2017 17:20:42 GMT -6
The 11th hour could still be one hour prior to the 6:46pm showing? I don't think I understand... If there are 12 hours in a day, and the sign occurs at 6:46pm, then the 11th hour is 5:46pm Jerusalem time? Also, has anyone accounted for 'daylight savings'? I realize we don't 'fall back' until probably November, but which time is the 'correct' one? DST? or Standard Time? |
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Post by MissusMack08 on Sept 19, 2017 17:24:50 GMT -6
Sorry yardstick , I haven't gone back through this thread to remind myself what we are talking about, but I thought my original comment on the 11th hour had to do with the equinox occurring at 11:01:01 Israel time some day this week. I don't think it had anything to do with the sign on Saturday. |
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Post by yardstick on Sept 19, 2017 17:27:35 GMT -6
Sorry yardstick , I haven't gone back through this thread to remind myself what we are talking about, but I thought my original comment on the 11th hour had to do with the equinox occurring at 11:01:01 Israel time some day this week. I don't think it had anything to do with the sign on Saturday. Mostly, my comment was geared toward the Matthew 20 reference (re: 11th hour). |
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Post by MissusMack08 on Sept 19, 2017 17:49:24 GMT -6
Sorry yardstick , I haven't gone back through this thread to remind myself what we are talking about, but I thought my original comment on the 11th hour had to do with the equinox occurring at 11:01:01 Israel time some day this week. I don't think it had anything to do with the sign on Saturday. Mostly, my comment was geared toward the Matthew 20 reference (re: 11th hour). Sorry, my brain is just really struggling right now. I suppose it could mean an hour before the sign. However, my original comment was about the fact that when the 11 hour workers came to work, they still worked an hour. The work wasn't done until the 12th hour. I still think if the rapture occurs at a specific time of the day according to Jerusalem time, it'll be sunset. |
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Post by yardstick on Sept 19, 2017 17:52:15 GMT -6
Mostly, my comment was geared toward the Matthew 20 reference (re: 11th hour). Sorry, my brain is just really struggling right now. I suppose it could mean an hour before the sign. However, my original comment was about the fact that when the 11 hour workers came to work, they still worked an hour. The work wasn't done until the 12th hour. I still think if the rapture occurs at a specific time of the day according to Jerusalem time, it'll be sunset. It does seem to be the case. May I ask why your brain is struggling? I've been struggling a lot lately also. But more from trying to get as much prepared for those left behind as possible I just finished getting the pet setup done. unsealed.boards.net/thread/890/care-pets?page=1&scrollTo=11253 |
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Post by kjs on Sept 21, 2017 19:45:14 GMT -6
Well according to the torahcalendar link given by Natilie .....
We are in the 11th Hour at night Jerusalem time ( just after 9:30pm eastern time) it is 22nd for Israel (they started around 6:30 yesterday)
we go into the 22nd at midnight or in about two plus hours.....
So I would say we just past the 11th hour Equinox spoken about in this thread (tomorrow is the 23rd for Israel)
Since I am still typing ... Either I missed the rapture or it has not occurred yet ....
Thoughts anyone?
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Post by MissusMack08 on Sept 21, 2017 19:46:35 GMT -6
Sorry, my brain is just really struggling right now. I suppose it could mean an hour before the sign. However, my original comment was about the fact that when the 11 hour workers came to work, they still worked an hour. The work wasn't done until the 12th hour. I still think if the rapture occurs at a specific time of the day according to Jerusalem time, it'll be sunset. It does seem to be the case. May I ask why your brain is struggling? I've been struggling a lot lately also. But more from trying to get as much prepared for those left behind as possible I just finished getting the pet setup done. unsealed.boards.net/thread/890/care-pets?page=1&scrollTo=11253I'm just really weary. (Sorry for the late response. I just now saw it. I must've missed the notification.) |
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Post by MissusMack08 on Sept 21, 2017 19:49:24 GMT -6
Well according to the torahcalendar link given by Natilie ..... We are in the 11th Hour at night Jerusalem time ( just after 9:30pm eastern time) it is 22nd for Israel (they started around 6:30 yesterday) we go into the 22nd at midnight or in about two plus hours..... So I would say we just past the 11th hour Equinox spoken about in this thread (tomorrow is the 23rd for Israel) Since I am still typing ... Either I missed the rapture or it has not occurred yet .... Thoughts anyone? I wasn't sure if it meant their 22nd or our 22nd, lol. I was thinking to would be tomorrow night. |
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Post by MissusMack08 on Sept 21, 2017 19:49:54 GMT -6
Well according to the torahcalendar link given by Natilie ..... We are in the 11th Hour at night Jerusalem time ( just after 9:30pm eastern time) it is 22nd for Israel (they started around 6:30 yesterday) we go into the 22nd at midnight or in about two plus hours..... So I would say we just past the 11th hour Equinox spoken about in this thread (tomorrow is the 23rd for Israel) Since I am still typing ... Either I missed the rapture or it has not occurred yet .... Thoughts anyone? And... still here 😇 |
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Post by thetimeoftheend on Sept 21, 2017 20:35:45 GMT -6
The equinox has not occurred yet. It occurs at 1:02PM PT/4:02 ET and at 11:02PM in Israel tomorrow.
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Post by MissusMack08 on Sept 21, 2017 21:17:37 GMT -6
The equinox has not occurred yet. It occurs at 1:02PM PT/4:02 ET and at 11:02PM in Israel tomorrow. Thanks! So it is tomorrow! This time difference stuff plus Israel days starting at sunset sure is tough to keep track of. |
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Post by bruce on Sept 22, 2017 10:56:07 GMT -6
I vote for this theory since now it is only 3 hours away :-)
Seriously though, having re-read it, it is interesting and gives me something to look forward to later this afternoon. God's timing is perfect.
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