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Post by whatif on Apr 26, 2017 12:15:25 GMT -6
Good morning to my brothers and sisters in Christ! The topic of Star Wars has come up a couple of times here at the forum with BrazenLaver's recent post in the thread about Jesus' DNA and with watchmanjim's beautiful writing in the thread "American Pantheon," and it brought to mind something I've been pondering for awhile.
As a kid, I loved the Star Wars movies--such a fun and inspiring series about good triumphing over evil--but over the years I've noticed an alarming change in the progression of the philosophy being broadcast. I have many family members that watch all the new movies, all the animated series--Clone Wars, Rebels--and even play the computer games, and I'm noticing as I watch them too that where there was at first an obvious philosophy that there is good and evil, right and wrong, there is now a growing philosophy that good and evil are both okay, that they balance one another, that truth is only "a certain point of view," that it's okay to experiment with "the dark side" if you are using it for good purposes.
That bothers me, and I really do feel that despite a lot of entertainment value in the films, there's something happening with perceptions being changed over time.
Has anyone else noticed this trend?
And another question: Do you think there is a reason why Star Wars has come into such intense popularity at this particular time? Is there any connection with the end times here? |
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Post by BrazenLaver on Apr 27, 2017 7:34:37 GMT -6
Stars Wars Jedi/Force was a patterned on Joseph Campbell Archetype Hero in his book The Hero with a Thousand Faces. It is a mixture of Easter Hindu, Christianity and the occult. As a matter a fact George Lucas as stated that Anakin is a play on Jesus but with a twist. There are so many avenues its hard to begin. However, it is not just Star Wars but the entire Hollywood industry. The gospel of the Antichrist is and has been preached to this generation. Rebellion is the good guys 1/3 of the Angels Luke Skywalker short for Lucifer the prince and power of the air Anakin Skywalker The giant skywalker who becomes a Dark Vader(Father) -Had no natural father-miraculous birth- the one-  Mark 13:20-22 And except that the Lord had shortened those days, no flesh should be saved: but for the elect's sake, whom he hath chosen, he hath shortened the days. And then if any man shall say to you, Lo, here is Christ; or, lo, he is there; believe him not: For false Christs and false prophets shall rise, and shall shew signs and wonders, to seduce, if it were possible, even the elect. Movie "Shows"( shew signs) are part pf the wonders to seduce. Most of the elite in Hollywood have and are involved with in the occult. They all love money and are influenced by the love of money. Which we know is evil.  When I go to this movies "shows." I can usually pick up on their narratives. The superhero movies are full of esoteric end times scenarios. The Avengers, Superman, Transformers, Star Trek, Aliens, Independence Day, Men in Black, Battleship, Guardians of the Galaxy, ect are usually telling the same story.     You have an enemy coming from Outer Space and their army seems invincible but the few superheroes (Anti-christ, false prophet, 10 Kings) combined with the intervention of global army force seem to defy the odds and win anyway. Everyone of these movies is telling an Anti-God twist of Armageddon. "Be not deceived, God is not mocked..." |
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Post by Gary on Apr 27, 2017 7:59:15 GMT -6
BrazenLaver, you put a lot of pieces together here. I've seen glimpses of this before, but I think you're seeing the pattern. I recently did a post about Hollywood's trumpeting of the extraterrestrial myth. In the 2010 movie Skyline, the aliens are literally rapturing people by the millions and they are portrayed as predatory and evil.
The Tom Cruise War of the Worlds remake features a storm, lightning, an earthquake and shofar blasts when the aliens show up:
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Post by BrazenLaver on Apr 27, 2017 8:24:04 GMT -6
Cool...I've never seen Skyline.  However, in Jupiter Descending it was pretty neat how the protagonist splice/beast was trying to get his wings back and stop the Earth from being harvested...  |
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Post by BrazenLaver on Apr 27, 2017 8:27:18 GMT -6
I'm really certain that new Guardians of the Galaxy will be more of the same...  |
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Post by whatif on Apr 27, 2017 13:38:16 GMT -6
Rebellion is the good guys 1/3 of the Angels Luke Skywalker short for Lucifer the prince and power of the air Anakin Skywalker The giant skywalker who becomes a Dark Vader(Father) -Had no natural father-miraculous birth- the one- ... You have an enemy coming from Outer Space and their army seems invincible but the few superheroes (Anti-christ, false prophet, 10 Kings) combined with the intervention of global army force seem to defy the odds and win anyway. Everyone of these movies is telling an Anti-God twist of Armageddon. Ohhh, wow! I had never considered that twist before, and it's like a lightbulb lighting up in my head! |
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Post by watchmanjim on Apr 27, 2017 16:04:10 GMT -6
Yep.
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Post by BrazenLaver on May 8, 2017 8:29:03 GMT -6
***Spoiler Alert*** I just watched Guardians 2. The "Star Lord, Peter" leads his group of "escaped prisoners" into the realm of his fathers heaven. He learns his father is a celestial god, Ego. He also finds out that his father is consumed with creating a progeny of his own and consuming all the universe with a celestial flood that will consume Earth of all needless life.  His father is the bad guy and they team up with other renegade thieves to work together and stop his Fathers apocalypse. They ascend into his Father's Heaven and put him in a state of "rest," or sleep if you will. Thus a "War in Heaven."  This is also a similar theme in Star Trek. When a City "Four Square" like object comes from Heaven with an invincible army invading Federation Space. Juan "Luke" Lucifer Picard uses his superior intellect and puts the Borg to sleep, in order to defeat this invincible army.  Needless to say we saw the "shew signs" of perversion and twisting good into evil and evil into good. Mark 13:22 For false Christs and false prophets shall rise, and shall shew signs and wonders, to seduce, if it were possible, even the elect. |
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Post by Gary on May 8, 2017 8:40:47 GMT -6
Wow, no joke. I had never made the Star Trek connection before. Satan really does seem to think he can convince those petty earthlings to wage war against God. I can't help but wonder if he really thinks he stands a chance.
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Post by BrazenLaver on May 8, 2017 10:28:11 GMT -6
Wow, no joke. I had never made the Star Trek connection before. Satan really does seem to think he can convince those petty earthlings to wage war against God. I can't help but wonder if he really thinks he stands a chance. Well it seems "Hollywood" is somewhat convinced that Satan does have a chance if they get God to "rest." This was also suggested in the first "Independence day" movie. The subtil computer hacker caused the Aliens invincible army to turn off their invincible shields. Thus allowing the "underdogs" to win against the Chariots from the Heavens.  The "rest" of God we know as his Sabbath. May I suggest it is just a mocking attempt at God's 1,000 years of peace as King. If God is at "rest" we have no shield. Psalm 144:2 My goodness, and my fortress; my high tower, and my deliverer; my shield, and he in whom I trust; who subdueth my people under me. However, we know that regardless of how they conspire against our Lord, he laughs at them.  Psalm 2 Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing? The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel together, against the Lord, and against his anointed, saying, Let us break their bands asunder, and cast away their cords from us. He that sitteth in the heavens shall laugh: the Lord shall have them in derision. Then shall he speak unto them in his wrath, and vex them in his sore displeasure. The only possible chance Satan had was for Jesus to change sides. Thus his "temptation" in the wilderness was an epic and pivotal moment for all of the universe.   Anakin defeats the Emperor of Heaven and Thus Star Lord in Guardians defeat his father in his battle...  Should I talk about the same story in Flash Gordon?  |
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Post by savedbygrace on May 26, 2017 23:16:25 GMT -6
As a mom of four kids who love Star Wars, I really wonder at why all the bad guys are the popular characters now. You can hardly find a tee shirt or pj set with Luke Skywalker or Hans Solo. But Darth Vader and Storm Troopers are everywhere. It's a bit of a head-scratcher!
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Post by watchmanjim on May 27, 2017 7:36:50 GMT -6
Because men love darkness rather than light. It doesn't have to be the consumer that drives things--the franchise owners promote what they want to sell. And so the bad guys prevail, if the franchisers want to promote evil. Having watched Episodes 1-6 myself, I would just gently caution against making Star Wars, or any other secular franchise, a very important part of your life. There are many evil influences in these movies, some of them very subtle, and children especially are vulnerable to the unbiblical thinking that runs consistently throughout.  |
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Post by savedbygrace on May 31, 2017 23:38:55 GMT -6
Because men love darkness rather than light. It doesn't have to be the consumer that drives things--the franchise owners promote what they want to sell. And so the bad guys prevail, if the franchisers want to promote evil. Having watched Episodes 1-6 myself, I would just gently caution against making Star Wars, or any other secular franchise, a very important part of your life. There are many evil influences in these movies, some of them very subtle, and children especially are vulnerable to the unbiblical thinking that runs consistently throughout. Please excuse the late reply. I keep getting locked out of the forum for some reason. When I say that my kids love Star Wars, I should clarify...my two teen girls have seen episodes 1-6 plus these latest ones...Rogue One (??). My younger two boys have not seen any of them. But they are drawn to all things Star Wars anyways. We even homeschool and yet, Star Wars is still everywhere it seems. Calling to them. I feel like we have to work so hard to keep those influences from becoming so strong. We just try to encourage liking the good guys. |
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Post by Gary on Jun 1, 2017 8:11:38 GMT -6
Hi savedbygrace, if you have any more trouble with getting locked out please feel free to private message me a screenshot if you see an error (you would just click on my name on the left and then click "Send Message").
-Gary
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Post by watchmanjim on Jun 1, 2017 9:04:39 GMT -6
savedbygrace, I understand the struggle. Thankfully, we've been able to keep Star Wars completely out of our house as far as my kids are concerned. It was not in my family growing up until I was out of the house, and then my younger siblings got into it, and sadly they are a mess today. I was already a mature believer when I watched the films and enjoyed them for a while, but over time the Lord led me to distance myself and my family from them.
I'm in the process of now distancing myself and my family from the works of JRR Tolkien, much beloved in my family, but especially the recent film works, which in my opinion give way too tangible an expression of evil. Many of my friends in town are struggling with (or not struggling, but immersed in) the love of super heroes or Manga. To me, these are all dangerous false gods, and many of our Christian believers do not even see the affect it has on them.
I would simply encourage everyone to make the standard be, "Be ye holy, as I am holy" and to walk in the Holy Spirit and simply see whether there is time and attention for these other things, when there is a proper focus on the Lord. At best, these things are distractions, at worst, idols.
But I understand not everyone is going to agree on this issue.
Little children, keep yourselves from idols.
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