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Post by watchmanjim on May 24, 2017 20:05:26 GMT -6
Dan was very naughty back in the book of Judges, and after that. They led Israel in idolatry, along with Ephraim.
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2017 20:16:18 GMT -6
Yes, that's right....
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2017 10:32:34 GMT -6
Hey brethren! I was getting ready for my Sunday school lesson by reading Deuteronomy 20. As I began to read it today, I was filled with a picture of a pre-trib rapture!!! 'Lord Jesus' is that man!!! And I see that war being the war in Revelation 12:7! Can anybody else see this? !!
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Post by watchmanjim on May 27, 2017 17:02:13 GMT -6
Hey brethren! I was getting ready for my Sunday school lesson by reading Deuteronomy 20. As I began to read it today, I was filled with a picture of a pre-trib rapture!!! 'Lord Jesus' is that man!!! And I see that war being the war in Revelation 12:7! Can anybody else see this? !! What, in Deut 20?
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2017 17:32:40 GMT -6
Deuteronomy 20:5-7 NLT [5] “Then the officers of the army must address the troops and say, ‘Has anyone here just built a new house but not yet dedicated it? If so, you may go home! You might be killed in the battle, and someone else would dedicate your house. [6] Has anyone here just planted a vineyard but not yet eaten any of its fruit? If so, you may go home! You might die in battle, and someone else would eat the first fruit. [7] Has anyone here just become engaged to a woman but not yet married her? Well, you may go home and get married! You might die in the battle, and someone else would marry her.’ …
If this was the instructions by the Lord prior to the war...are we the house, the vineyard, AND the engaged woman?
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Post by watchmanjim on May 27, 2017 17:46:25 GMT -6
Ah yes. Let's talk about this.
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2017 19:10:10 GMT -6
Interesting truthseeker!! I think I see what you're saying. Maybe it's a shadow or type.
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2017 20:29:35 GMT -6
Thanks for looking- my heart lept when I read it! There is also a mention of 'trees' in this chapter that is spoken of in Revelations.
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Post by watchmanjim on May 27, 2017 20:36:22 GMT -6
So yes, I believe the Lord cannot go to war until He has spent a certain amount of time with His bride, right?
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2017 20:44:05 GMT -6
I'm a KJVer and I think it says it best there. I just see that all three of those conditions fit where that 'man' could fit Jesus. Also, the faint hearted, would definitely be us-we take no pleasure in sad times.
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Post by whatif on May 27, 2017 20:44:42 GMT -6
Truthseeker, I think you're right! Awesome find!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2017 15:31:59 GMT -6
Deuteronomy 20:5-7 NLT [5] “Then the officers of the army must address the troops and say, ‘Has anyone here just built a new house but not yet dedicated it? If so, you may go home! You might be killed in the battle, and someone else would dedicate your house. [6] Has anyone here just planted a vineyard but not yet eaten any of its fruit? If so, you may go home! You might die in battle, and someone else would eat the first fruit. [7] Has anyone here just become engaged to a woman but not yet married her? Well, you may go home and get married! You might die in the battle, and someone else would marry her.’ … If this was the instructions by the Lord prior to the war...are we the house, the vineyard, AND the engaged woman?
Adding on to this -
The 'house' - 2 Corinthians 5 The "not yet eaten" - Micah 7 Marriage - Matthew 25:10
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Post by rt on Jun 3, 2017 20:22:49 GMT -6
Continuing with the 6th seal In this passage John turns his attention to the sudden appearance of a great innumerable multitude in heaven. Note that he describes them as coming from every nation, every tribe and peoples and tongues. This is in direct contrast to the previous passage that specifically relates to the sealing of the 144,000 Jews from the tribes of Israel. This great multitude appearing before the throne and before the Lamb are those gentiles and I think also Jews, since the passage seems to indicate that they come from every tribe, that have been saved during the church age,as is shown in their cry. These are those who would make up the body of Christ. I believe them to be those who are caught up into the heavenly tabernacle in what we Christians call the rapture.
This multitude is clothed in white robes. Unlike the martyrs who were souls when John first encounters them, and had to be given their white robes, this great multitude washed theirs in the blood of the Lamb to make them white. The "robe" being the physical body a person is clothed with. The martyrs' because they were souls of the dead, did not initially have a physical body, their earthly body had perished and they were waiting for their imperishable, immortal body. These multitudes have their physical earthly bodies overhauled, made clean, transformed to make them white, the passage tells us that this is the reason they stand before the heavenly throne. As the following passage in Corinthians tells us they will be changed:
I find it curious that John sees them waving Palm branches. Which reminds us of Palm Sunday, when the Jews waved palm branches before the Lord as He entered Jerusalem riding on the colt before Passover, they did so because they believed Him to be their savior, however briefly. The tradition of waving palm branches was something Israel did at the feast of booths/ Tabernacles and was commanded by God in Leviticus:
Those who waved palm branches before Passover celebrated as they would at the feast of Tabernacles. During the time of Christ the feast of Tabernacles was connected to the promise of the coming Messiah and His kingdom. Which may explain why the people waved palm branches before Christ.
To be cont'd....
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Post by watchmanjim on Jun 3, 2017 20:42:44 GMT -6
That is actually making sense, rt!
Which takes me back to the first 4 seals, and again wondering if they really have already been opened, and so on.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2017 20:46:41 GMT -6
Thanks Rt! You are a welcome diversion for many.
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