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Post by whatif on Jul 1, 2017 1:06:45 GMT -6
Brothers and sisters, I have a question for you! I was just reading through the posts and I read watchmanjim's thread in "Funny Stuff" about being uploaded to the cloud. When I read it, I had a strange sense of déjà vu, and I know for certain that I have never heard that before. The weird thing is that I've been getting that feeling of déjà vu multiple times today during a variety of activities, and I am curious as to what the phenomenon is. I am stumped, but I am wondering if it has anything to do with time in the eternal sense. I don't know if I can even explain that speculation, because it is too mind-boggling for me...
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Post by kjs on Jul 1, 2017 6:38:59 GMT -6
Interesting speculation..... I never experienced anything - other than time - not exactly sure how we will experience non-time (or eternal).... But I suppose it would be possible our senses will be enhanced in some way that would enable us to experience everything at once ....
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Post by rt on Jul 1, 2017 8:08:14 GMT -6
I experience déjà vu on a regular basis, it is very strange. I have also had experiences where I will sense something is going to happen before it does. Usually it concerns inconsequential things. Like one time I was sitting in church and it was a very windy day, I sensed that the window next to me was going to break and moments later it did. A big crack formed in the stained glass panel. It kind of freaked me out. Another time I was driving down the road and I saw a rabbit on the side of the road. I thought out loud, that rabbit better watch out an owl might have him for dinner, and at that very moment an owl swooped down and pounced on that rabbit. What are the chances? I have also had dreams that actually came true. For me it all started when I got sick with parvo B19 in 2000. I talked to my doctor about it, because it was so unsettling to me, he surmised that the virus may have triggered some part of my brain, a part that isn't normally tapped into. You know how they say we don't use all of our brain power? Perhaps déjà vu is similar, some part of our brain that isn't usually turned on. I have a friend with epilepsy and she can always tell when she is going to have a seizure because she has what she calls auras, with heightened déjà vu activity. Since I have recovered from that virus (which was horrible and lasted years) I have not had as many of these experiences. So I do wonder if my doctor was right?
Not sure about the time element, perhaps you are right. Maybe our brains are equipped to see through time, but it isn't something that is always made available to us by God, it lies dormant . I mean the prophets saw into the future, perhaps God has equipped the human brain or spirit??? With this capability, but we can't tap into it at will??? Just speculating here, not really sure what to make of it.
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Post by whatif on Jul 1, 2017 8:41:25 GMT -6
Fascinating thoughts, kjs and rt!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2017 14:02:17 GMT -6
I have them occasionally. I go very slow, knowing that I need to something differently this time. People always say 'if you could go back', it feels like I am... kinda like God shows me a old path that needs correcting. So I go slow through the event and have a keen awareness unlike usual. It makes the moment so 'out of the ordinary'!!!
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Post by watchmanjim on Jul 2, 2017 14:25:09 GMT -6
I had a period of my life when I had them very frequently, when I was about 12-14 years old. Now, very rarely.
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Post by Gary on Jul 3, 2017 12:00:41 GMT -6
I have sometimes had déjà vu very frequently and sometimes not at all. There's definitely something going on, but I'm not sure what. I think this is also along the lines of the Mandela Effect, which even some scientists are beginning to acknowledge points to a deeper reality. I vividly remember a time around the age of 10 where I had a very clear dream of a solar flare (at a time when I didn't really know what they were). The very next day the news reported a huge solar flare. I forget who mentioned this, but someone recently shared the possibility that déjà vu and the Mandela Effect are things that happen when spiritual forces "alter the code" so to speak. Perhaps the devil and his angels are trying to alter reality and succeed on some level, but not enough to dramatically change history. If you think about it, God and the angelic beings exist in a much higher dimension. Our 4d world to them is like what a 2d piece of paper is to us.
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Post by whatif on Jul 3, 2017 12:09:45 GMT -6
Wow! Fascinating thoughts, Gary!
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Post by watchmanjim on Jul 3, 2017 22:04:47 GMT -6
I find it important to distinguish deja vu with prophetic dreams and visions, which are different. I'm not saying deja vu never has any spiritual meaning--it may--but just that it is a different phenomenon.
My understanding is that deja vu is when you see or experience something, and strongly feel like you have seen or experienced it before, when in fact you have not. In all my own experiences, and every experience I have ever heard for any other people, I have never heard of two or more people experiencing deja vu at the same instant--unless it was not really deja vu, but the fact that they actually truly had experienced the thing before.
So my hypothesis about the phenomenon is: that our brains and minds and bodies have a biochemical process we experience when we see or experience something that we recognize as being the same, or very similar to, past experiences. This biochemical process may be stronger than normal when we unexpectedly come face-to-face with something or someone from our past that we were not expecting. It is a feeling and reality of recognizing something from our memories. So deja vu, then, is a false triggering of this biochemical response. Why might it happen? I really don't know for sure, but I suspect it could be one of those things like the little spurts of adrenaline that are sometimes suddenly released in our body for no apparent reason--maybe the body just releases the hormone when there is too much of it, and it has to get out. If the biochemical phenomenon is triggered without a known cause, then, it would cause our mind to have that same distinct feeling that we have just encountered something familiar, and our mind fixates on whatever it is we are experiencing at the moment, and it becomes eerily familiar to us at the moment.
I suspect that is why I experienced so much of the phenomenon around the time I was 12-14 years old--people in that age of life are undergoing changes in their body, and hormones tend to do funny things. Likewise, the wiring of our brain is probably short-circuiting about that time, too.
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Post by whatif on Jul 3, 2017 23:53:37 GMT -6
My understanding is that deja vu is when you see or experience something, and strongly feel like you have seen or experienced it before, when in fact you have not. Yes, that is exactly it, watchmanjim! It is so weird! I sometimes wonder if it is some unknown thing going on with the timeline of our lives, but you may be absolutely correct about hormonal causes.
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Post by watchmanjim on Jul 4, 2017 6:03:17 GMT -6
Well I don't doubt there could be an occasional spiritual component to it too--just as dreams are a natural occurrence, but can have spiritual significance.
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Post by sawdy on Jul 8, 2017 23:55:48 GMT -6
I have had a lot of deja vu in my life. The first occurrence happened in my youth and I knew exactly what my friend was going to say before she said it. I remarked out loud at the situation and how we were in the exact spot I had pictured and she said exactly what I felt that I knew she was going to say. I had a couple more experiences as a teen and actually had quite a bit of deja vu a couple of years ago in inconsequential situations about inconsequential things. This past year my deja vu will stike when I am doing something with my kids. Tasks that are ordinary but have a difference in the location or the words spoken that will trigger the "I have dreamed this before" moment. I haven't come to any conclusion about deja vu and can't control it. I do suffer from what I feel is "dreaming too much", I wake easily and have many dreams every night. My latest deja vu was about cooking with my kids. To me, these moments that I spend with them are important. When I feel a dejavu now, I take it as a sign to pay more attention to the moment, enjoy the moment and keep calm and show God's love. I no longer verbalise that I am experiencing deja vu.
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Post by whatif on Jul 9, 2017 0:18:32 GMT -6
I do suffer from what I feel is "dreaming too much", I wake easily and have many dreams every night. Fascinating! I have a number of dreams every night, as well--maybe a commonality to those who experience déjà vu? My dreams are very vivid, and thankfully they are most often good, though I am also known to suffer from occasional nightmares. My husband is often quite amazed by the things I tell him I've dreamed in a night--not so much because of what I've dreamed (though sometimes I've made him laugh, such as the time I dreamed that our little cat Pepper was being fitted for spy equipment to tackle a secret mission by the government), but because he seldom dreams and he finds it interesting that I have such an active dream time.
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Post by whatif on Jul 9, 2017 0:20:35 GMT -6
By the way, I'm pretty sure that dream about Pepper was not a prophetic message from the Lord in any way!
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Post by rt on Jul 10, 2017 16:39:21 GMT -6
By the way, I'm pretty sure that dream about Pepper was not a prophetic message from the Lord in any way! I have a kitty named Pepper too! That's a coincidence.
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