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Post by sini on Jul 12, 2017 14:10:06 GMT -6
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2017 14:26:01 GMT -6
Hey, welcome sini! That's interesting... also slightly disturbing. All these factors... what is God saying? Anyone got a clue?
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Post by sini on Jul 12, 2017 15:22:51 GMT -6
Matthew 24:24 - New American Standard Bible (NASB)
"For false Christs and false prophets will arise and will show great signs and wonders, so as to mislead, if possible, even the elect"
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2017 16:37:09 GMT -6
New York is 666 in Sumerian
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Post by whatif on Jul 12, 2017 19:19:24 GMT -6
Welcome to the forum, sini! It's a pleasure to meet you! You've given us some amazing information. I knew that Hebrew and Greek languages have alphabets that are also numbers, but I didn't know Sumerian language has a gematria system.
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Post by watchmanjim on Jul 14, 2017 16:13:18 GMT -6
I've studied gematria some, and I have a few concerns about it. . .
A. How do you ever know which Gematria to use? There are so many possible ones out there. If "What you are looking for" doesn't show up with one kind of gematria, just "go on to the next until you validate your suspicions?" See that's what some people do. If there were some way to know which type of gematria you are supposed to use for each situation, then maybe we would be onto something. There are hundreds of linguo-numeric codes out there, and there could be literally thousands more invented. Sooner or later, you could make anyone's name into 666, or anything else you were looking for.
For instance, I've had it pointed out that with this code: 101=A 102=B 103=C , you get H-I-T-L-E-R = 666. But big deal! Unless you use the same code for all things, you don't really learn anything.
Having said that, if we could come up with a Code of Codes that told us exactly which code to use in any circumstance, that might work.
Let's not forget, English is not the primary language of Scripture. The original languages are more likely to have codes, if there are any valid ones. The standard Hebrew gematria seems to have some promise, but then again, I'm not fully sold on it.
And we have to ask ourselves, does God truly use these methods to communicate to us? While I admit there seems some possibility that He might, I'm not completely sold on it.
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Post by whatif on Jul 14, 2017 19:22:09 GMT -6
I find it very interesting that the Greek and Hebrew languages (not sure about Aramaic) have the alphabets that are also numbers, as those are the Bible's languages. I also see quite a mystery involved with the calculation of the 666 number, and it seems to center around Solomon. I would be interested in knowing what the Hebrew and Greek gematria number for Solomon is, if anyone can determine that for us here.
Here's where the mystery takes shape:
1. Revelation 13:18 says, "This calls for wisdom. Let the person who has insight calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man. That number is 666." Note the reference to "wisdom," a possible reference to Solomon, the wise king.
2. Some manuscripts show the number as 616. I tend to think that both numbers might have some connection, as we know that the Lord uses even chapter and verse numbers to provide us insights into His Word.
3. I see that there is a reference to 666 in I Kings 10:14 "the weight of gold that came to Solomon in 1 year was 666 talents". Both times 666 is mentioned in the Bible, it appears to be in connection with an economic theme--Solomon's incoming wealth and the Beast's economic system.
4. Daniel 11:37 points out that the antiChrist will show no regard for any god, nor for the desire of women. The meaning behind the reference to the desire of women is a point of great debate. Why is it pointed out so prominently? I'm wondering if perhaps it is to show a key difference between Solomon and the antichrist. Solomon fell into the sin of worshipping false gods, but the antiChrist will be so wicked as to magnify himself above every god. Solomon had a passion for women and took many wives who swayed his heart away from God, but the antiChrist's heart will be so hardened that he will not be swayed from his objectives--not even by the wiles of beautiful women. Just speculation, but it sure would be a powerful connection to Solomon.
5. Solomon's name means "Peaceful." This is interesting, since the antiChrist is said to arrive on the scene peaceably.
6. Proverbs 6:16-19 speaks of 6 things God hates as abominations (and a 7th thing). These are a proud look, a lying tongue, hands that shed innocent blood, a heart that devises wicked schemes, feet that run quickly to mischief, a false witness, and one who sows discord among brothers. Could it be that this is an image of the antiChrist? Also in Proverbs 26:24-26, it says that a hate-filled person is not to be believed when he speaks, for there are 7 abominations in his heart. Could these be the 7 abominations referred to in Proverbs 6?
7. Solomon's throne had 6 steps.
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Post by watchmanjim on Jul 14, 2017 19:57:15 GMT -6
The standard Hebrew gematria for Solomon ( שׁלמה ) is 375.
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Post by whatif on Jul 14, 2017 20:00:06 GMT -6
Thanks, watchmanjim! Do you happen to know the Greek as well?
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Post by watchmanjim on Jul 14, 2017 20:04:30 GMT -6
Thanks, watchmanjim! Do you happen to know the Greek as well? No, I don't. I never learned Greek gematria. I know it exists, but I never learned it. I don't know my Greek alphabet well enough yet. |
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Post by whatif on Jul 14, 2017 20:06:55 GMT -6
No problem! I'm suspecting someone else here at the forum can give us some help with the Greek!
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