Random Thoughts

Updated 12/27/17 - thanks @stephan in the shoutbox for bringing this back up again. New content is marked like this below. Outdated/changed content is lined out.



I've been getting these random flashes of insight / random thoughts a lot lately, but have not felt like I could categorize them.

If it's okay with the moderators, I'd like to post them here. I must warn the readers that some of them may be very disturbing. If anyone has any questions, I will do my best to answer them with what my thought processes were. I cant promise I will be successful at that, though.

They are what I call 'pieces of the puzzle'; and so, like any good puzzle, they are begging to be put together to form a picture.

Unlike puzzle pieces; however, they may be arranged in many different types of order so long as a picture is created. They are just the thoughts running through my head. They don't necessarily represent any specific position, or belief, or doctrine. Most of them are thoughts from consideration of many people's posts here, blog entries, videos, et c.

It might be possible to formulate a Theory from them.

The reader might consider them hypotheses:
(merriam-webster dictionary online: hypothesis)
Definition of hypothesis

plural hypothesesplay \hī-ˈpä-thə-ˌsēz\

1a : an assumption or concession made for the sake of argument
  b : an interpretation of a practical situation or condition taken as the ground for action

2: a tentative assumption made in order to draw out and test its logical or empirical consequences

I am not sure the best way to log them here: whether I should just edit this original post, or whether I should add them as individual posts.

I think I will start with editing this first post, and addend them here. I will number them for reference, so if anyone wants to comment, they can post with the reference number and it will be easier to track which comments to with which random thought.

Mods, whatever you want to do with this is okay with me. I just have to get these things outta my head / off my chest. It might be helpful if I can eventually get them tested them against scripture, or if someone wants to add to them, or whatever.

Thanks...


1a. The Rev 12:1 sign on September 23rd may not signal the harpazo. It may signal the harpazo has already occurred, and that the Trib will begin 'shortly', or begin as soon as the agreement is signed.

1b. If 1a is correct, then the harpazo should be expected before 9/23

1c. Jacob's Trouble is for Israel. The Tribulation is for the gentiles. The signs in the heavens are for the gentiles (only the sign of Jonah given to the jews). The feast representations are for Israel. So the feast fulfilments would complete Jacobs trouble - 70th week? 

1d. If 1c is true, then what if the 1290 days and the 1335 days are concurrent (overlapping)? i.e.: the AoD is a sign for Israel, not necessarily the gentiles?

1e. What if the 1290 and 1335 end on the same day (that is, the 45 day difference is on the front end), then 1335 is for the gentiles and 1290 is for Israel?

1f. The 45 day difference is the window between the harpazo and the signing of the agreement? 45 days from the harpazo to the beginning of Jacob's Trouble, but the tribulation starts immediately? Psa 83 war lasts <45 days, but diplomacy efforts take up the balance?

1g.
Sept 23 + 1260 = 3/6/21 + 30 day leap month = 4/5/21 + 1260 =9/16/2024 + 45 = 10/31/24
      10/31/2024 - 1290 = 4/20/21 (Aod?) - 1260 =  = 11/7/17  (agreement date?) <<---  AC's timeline?

1h. Sept 9 +1260 = 2/20/21 + 30 = 3/22/21 + 1260 = 9/2/2024 + 45 = 10/17/24
      10/17/24 - 1290 = 4/6/21 (AoD?) - 1260 = 10/24/17 (agreement date?) <<----  AC's timeline?

1j. Between Mid-October and Mid-November?
Check dates against known celestial and prophetic 'times'. Look for Agreement and Eclipse dates

1k. Is the 'agreement with many' the UN resolution just passed that makes Jerusalem a capital for the arabs in 'palestine' (see JD Farag Dec 17 prophecy update - youtube)?

1l. If the agreement is the UN resolution, the 'enforcement' / 'affirmation' of the agreement could be a result of the harpazo? see 5c.

2a. The Travailing of the woman (Israel) is Jacobs Trouble is the tribulation.
Celestial travailing = foreshadowing of Trib. How long is celestial travailing? 7 days?  How long doe Virgo travail? Look for a 7 day window.

2b. The birthing process - labor - begins on 9/9, or 9/23? As with typical birth, travailing starts off slow and builds to the actual birth on 10/15 or so?

2c. If Isa 66:7 refers to the harpazo, then it appears to indicate the rapture will occur before the labor occurs
! Before 9/9 or before 9/23?

2d. 2c narrows the window to before 9/9 at best, and before 9/23 at worst


3a. The woman in Rev 12 is the Bride who is Israel, not the church. The church is the body! Where do the scriptures specify whether talking about the church as the Bride or Israel? Lack of consistency in term use, or consistent, but man has twisted the Bride to be the Church - replacement theology?


4a. If the church is the body of Christ, not the bride, the references in scripture to the Bride should refer to Israel, not the church... Therefore, using the bride of christ to represent the church would be replacement theology?
 combined with 3a.

5a. Could Ezekiel 32: 17-31 refer to the same war as Ezekiel 38? ... Assyria...Elam...Meshek and Tubal...Edom...All the princes of the north and all the Sidonians...
If this isnt Gog-Magog, then it is the war that precipitates it? This is the result of the Ez 38-39 war?

5b. Several wars are mentioned. Need a thread that lists them. Gog-Magog, Damascus... et c.

   See board post on Psalm 83 war antagonists defeated by Israel - creates the 'peace and security' for Israel and causes 'covenant with many' to be enforced?
   Isa 17 - destruction of Damascus
   Isa 19 - Egyptian civil war
   Ez 28:20-end - Destruction of Sidon

5c. The Psa 83 war is precipitated by the harpazo? Leads to the destruction of Damascus and the 'agreement with many' (UN Resolution) being 'enforced' dividing Israel and giving eastern Jerusalem to the 'arabs in palestine' as their capital. Israel gets to rebuild its temple (gihon spring area) a little north of the dome of the rock as part of the deal.

5d. 'Many' not identified as a cohesive nation/culture/ethnic group; therefore, 'many' is the arabs who live in 'palestine'?

6a. The 'chloro' (pale) horse in Rev 6... chloro is a prefix indicating green: chlorophyll, chlorine (green when in gaseous form), but horses aren't naturally green, so the logical translation was rendered pale, because chloro in the chemical sense is a pale green gas?

  Chlorine gas
See the flag colors of most of the muslim nations.


7a. I think hope the passage of Deuteronomy 28:57 has already occurred? moved to 8


8a. After the harpazo, the logistical infrastructure of the world will be in shambles. There will not be as many people to haul products around to their next consumption step. Not just the end user- the consumer, but also every intermediate step from the extraction/harvest of the raw materials, through each processing step, to the distribution points and then the end user. There will be a severe supply chain breakdown.

8b. With a shortage of people to transport and distribute and stock items on shelves, the demand for labor will go up sharply. This will drive wages up, resulting in higher prices, due to lack of supply - not just in people to do the work, but also in the actual supply of products and services.

8c. With a breakdown of the supply chain, stores will be perpetually short on inventory, until they can adjust by ordering more. The problem with ordering more, is that a truck can only carry so much volume; and must be driven by one person (minimum) - see 8b. Thus, they will not be able to get more, even if they order it. Stores typically carry no more than 3 days supply of inventory; and rely on 'just-in-time' replenishment to keep their shelves stocked.

8.d. Once the Trumpet judgments begin, and the earth begins to become damaged; it will become impossible to grow food. The supply chain for food to the end user will dry up, and people will begin to starve. There will be a few places (breadbasket areas) that would be able to hold out longer, if it were possible for them to stop shipping what is grown; and use it themselves. But due to the nationalization of resources, they will be forced at gunpoint to give up their produce - what there is of it. Alternately, there will be gunfights over the farming areas.

8e. It wont matter who wins the breadbasket areas, because eventually growing food as crops for consumption will no longer be possible. Also impossible will be the ability to grow grain to feed the farm animals that provide meat. Ultimately, the entire food supply pipeline will become empty. There will be no food to eat because it cannot be grown. All the farm animals will have been consumed. All the wild animals will have been killed off by the judgments and by people hunting because they cannot get food any other way.

8f. Woe to new mothers and those with unweaned children; and now we know why: There will be no food for anyone to eat for more than just a few days or weeks or months. There will be no food to eat for years once the Trumpets and Bowls begin. Deuteronomy 28:49-57... People will eat each other. They will eat the babies first and the afterbirth; and then they will eat the children. I think even if the Deut passage has already happened, this will still occur.  


9a. Expect most, if not all, governments to declare national emergencies and nationalize every asset: not just the businesses and their inventories, but also each person's personal property. The property of those who were raptured will be confiscated, regardless of any will or testament left behind to pass their possessions to someone else. The excuse may be: 'acts of God' don't count, since this is established already in the insurance industry.

9b. Expect the 'acts of God' application to any life insurance policies that people may try to collect on. If the insurance companies do not deny claims, the insurance companies will go under from all the claims.

9c Since the insurance companies who have life insurance policies also are likely to have medical insurance policies, expect them to 'tighten up' on paying out for those also.

9d. The police will be deployed to regulate movement of people (mass panic, just like in the apocalyptic movies - now there's some irony) with the excuse of 'public safety'. Martial law most certainly will be applied, since that will permit the officials to verify someone is still in their residence by forcing them to be there.

9e. Government personnel will also be tasked with going house to house to see if the resident is home. If the resident cannot be located, regardless of whether they are just out of town, their assets will be seized, and they will have to prove their ownership in person. The cost of disposing of pets, as well as other costs of nationalization could be an excuse used to seize assets to recoup those costs.

9f. Since it will take time for government personnel to go door-to-door, many indoor animals will likely starve to death before they are taken to a shelter. It will most likely not be at the top of governmental priority lists to consider placement of pets into animal shelters. This will exacerbate the issue, since officials will either have to not enter a home, due to risk of animal attack, enter the home anyway and shoot the animal on sight, or they will have to delay moving to the next house until the pets are disposed of.

10a. The groom was delayed...  2000 years...

11a. From Feast of Tablernacles, Oct 2024 through millennium (~3024) - The weather will be so clement that people will literally be able to live outdoors under small coverings (similar to certain modern cultures in the Pacific Islands, and Africa) without fear of insect or rodent infestation or wild animal attack.
11b. Transportation will not require technology to achieve - how about teleportation for those who 'serve' Christ, as they 'attend' the unsaved/non-serving survivors of the trib using a rod of iron?
11c. Communications - telepathy - technology is not necessary anymore
11d. Heavy lifting, movement of objects et c:  telekenesis - technology which requires damaging the environment to manufacture things like batteries, or from smelting operations (mining and extraction of minerals for use in manufacturing) will not be necessary
11e. Food growth, harvesting and distribution - in our glorified bodies, will we really need to eat? Entropy will no longer apply.

12a. What has Israel been travailing to birth [lately]? Not just nationhood, but to be recognized as a nation by all the other nations! Multi-fulfillment of Rev 12:1-2?
12b. United States recognizes Jerusalem as the capital of Israel (Dec 2017)
12c. Unite States announces that embassy will be move to Jerusalem (Dec 2017)

13. United States  = 'young lion'?



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