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Post by anonymouse on Sept 24, 2017 11:22:29 GMT -6
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Post by thetimeoftheend on Sept 24, 2017 11:55:26 GMT -6
I'm so sorry I'm not even mocking you really, I'm just so sorry you fell into this. I'll be back October 1st just like I said I'll be back on the 24th What exactly would you be back on the 1st to do? What did happen without a doubt was our Lord gave a sign in the heavens, we have also seen many other signs in the earth. He told us to look up upward because our redemption was close. There was speculation and hope that the rapture could happen these days. Because it did not does not mean that these signs have not been appearing nor does it mean the end is not near. The very coalition described in Ezekiel 38 is sitting on Israel's border beating the drums of war. We don't know the day he is coming for his church, but is soon. I would kindly ask that you would check your motives, as they do not seem sincere, as indicated by your username. I will keep you in my prayers. |
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Post by whatif on Sept 24, 2017 12:29:52 GMT -6
I'm so sorry I'm not even mocking you really, I'm just so sorry you fell into this. I'll be back October 1st just like I said I'll be back on the 24th May the Lord bless you, sorrynotsorry--and may He bring you back to us in October or November or December... We would be so happy to share with you the love of God, the peace we have from Him in knowing that His perfect plan is unfolding, and the hope we have of eternal life with Him. |
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Post by anonymouse on Sept 24, 2017 17:10:29 GMT -6
I'm so sorry I'm not even mocking you really, I'm just so sorry you fell into this. I'll be back October 1st just like I said I'll be back on the 24th harsh words my friend |
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Post by MissusMack08 on Sept 25, 2017 0:11:07 GMT -6
anonymouse, do please don't set your heart up to be disappointed. I think because the rapture did not occur in the Feast of Trumpets like was hypothesized, because it made sense from the perspective of Jesus fulfilling the feast days in order, we can't keep looking to the next feast(s) as potential fulfillment dates. I know the Jubilee theory is out there and maybe it's true (who am I to say the rapture WON'T occur on any particular day) but it does feel like people are grasping at straws now. Maybe I'm wrong, but I think the best thing is to just watch and encourage others to just watch too, not look to another date. I really think we need to start seeing the dragon come together.
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Post by anonymouse on Sept 25, 2017 6:07:56 GMT -6
anonymouse , do please don't set your heart up to be disappointed. I think because the rapture did not occur in the Feast of Trumpets like was hypothesized, because it made sense from the perspective of Jesus fulfilling the feast days in order, we can't keep looking to the next feast(s) as potential fulfillment dates. I know the Jubilee theory is out there and maybe it's true (who am I to say the rapture WON'T occur on any particular day) but it does feel like people are grasping at straws now. Maybe I'm wrong, but I think the best thing is to just watch and encourage others to just watch too, not look to another date. I really think we need to start seeing the dragon come together. you are right my friend, we should have our eyes on the dragon now. Should we look forward to the day of atonement and venus, jupiter "birth" conjunction?? |
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Post by kjs on Sept 25, 2017 7:50:32 GMT -6
anonymouse , do please don't set your heart up to be disappointed. I think because the rapture did not occur in the Feast of Trumpets like was hypothesized, because it made sense from the perspective of Jesus fulfilling the feast days in order, we can't keep looking to the next feast(s) as potential fulfillment dates. I know the Jubilee theory is out there and maybe it's true (who am I to say the rapture WON'T occur on any particular day) but it does feel like people are grasping at straws now. Maybe I'm wrong, but I think the best thing is to just watch and encourage others to just watch too, not look to another date. I really think we need to start seeing the dragon come together. I agree this "pointing out this date" or "that date" is too much how ALL the other DATES that were set -- operated .... This first one did not happen -- so suddenly it this date (a week, a year, or whatever later)..... Could it happen -- I suppose -- but the "Big Sign" happened -- and it appears it was not speaking rapture. |
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Post by linda on Sept 25, 2017 9:45:00 GMT -6
I agree this "pointing out this date" or "that date" is too much how ALL the other DATES that were set -- operated .... This first one did not happen -- so suddenly it this date (a week, a year, or whatever later)..... Could it happen -- I suppose -- but the "Big Sign" happened -- and it appears it was not speaking rapture. I think the Big Sign IS about rapture. But why does anyone think that it has to happen on the day the sign appears? I take it as a warning sign that something is coming, be watchful. |
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Post by kjs on Sept 25, 2017 10:19:31 GMT -6
I agree this "pointing out this date" or "that date" is too much how ALL the other DATES that were set -- operated .... This first one did not happen -- so suddenly it this date (a week, a year, or whatever later)..... Could it happen -- I suppose -- but the "Big Sign" happened -- and it appears it was not speaking rapture. I think the Big Sign IS about rapture. But why does anyone think that it has to happen on the day the sign appears? I take it as a warning sign that something is coming, be watchful. Yes, the complete sign (meaning 1-2 and 5-6) does appear to be speaking rapture. However, the 1-2 portion of the sign has occurred -- without the rapture happening. If we see / understand the dragon and then see/understand the BIRTH -- we might be seeing rapture.... But the days 23rd /24th were not part of the rapture..... Could it be point to some more -- yes, but do not just pick this date or that date.... |
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Post by MissusMack08 on Sept 25, 2017 10:28:21 GMT -6
anonymouse , do please don't set your heart up to be disappointed. I think because the rapture did not occur in the Feast of Trumpets like was hypothesized, because it made sense from the perspective of Jesus fulfilling the feast days in order, we can't keep looking to the next feast(s) as potential fulfillment dates. I know the Jubilee theory is out there and maybe it's true (who am I to say the rapture WON'T occur on any particular day) but it does feel like people are grasping at straws now. Maybe I'm wrong, but I think the best thing is to just watch and encourage others to just watch too, not look to another date. I really think we need to start seeing the dragon come together. you are right my friend, we should have our eyes on the dragon now. Should we look forward to the day of atonement and venus, jupiter "birth" conjunction?? Keep those things in the back of your mind but just watch for now. |
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Post by bruce on Sept 25, 2017 14:19:59 GMT -6
anonymouse , do please don't set your heart up to be disappointed. I think because the rapture did not occur in the Feast of Trumpets like was hypothesized, because it made sense from the perspective of Jesus fulfilling the feast days in order, we can't keep looking to the next feast(s) as potential fulfillment dates. I know the Jubilee theory is out there and maybe it's true (who am I to say the rapture WON'T occur on any particular day) but it does feel like people are grasping at straws now. Maybe I'm wrong, but I think the best thing is to just watch and encourage others to just watch too, not look to another date. I really think we need to start seeing the dragon come together. I have looked at the Jubilee Day of Atonement theory and I thought it had some merit to it. I don't think it is just grasping at straws, and believe me, I asked myself that as I was evaluating it, but it does make sense of a few points of the September 23 rapture theory that had always bothered me, like how the sign itself didn't really fall on Feast of Trumpets unless you adopt an alternative and minority view on what day the Feast of Trumpets is, and even then it fell on the 2nd day of the alternative view, assuming a second day is even Biblical. However, if the birth on the 23rd is sealed and completed when the child is named and circumcised on the 8th day, which just happens to be the Day of Atonement, that makes the timing of the sign perfect! Plus, Trumpets is sort of a countdown. Actually, it's the continuation of a countdown that starts on 1 Elul which just happened to be the day of the Great American eclipse. If 40 is the number of testing, how much sense would it make for God to cut that time short and not give the people of the world a full 40 days repent and turn to him? Traditionally for Jews, Rosh Hashanah is when they get even more serious about reforming their lives in the 10 days of awe that lead up to the Day of Atonement. If the rapture had happened on Rosh Hashsanah, then they would have already missed their chance, but traditionally the books are not closed until the Day of Atonement. It just seems intuitively to make more sense that God would give the Jews and the world the full 40 days to repent before passing the judgment on them that they must endure the 7 year tribulation. It might not be on Atonement. One thing the passing of September 23 has taught us is that it's hard to figure this stuff out in advance. That doesn't mean that we can't see that we are near the end though. The sign was real, and I do believe the rapture is very close one way or another. I enjoy speculating because I think the timing will be significant, and it helps us to learn more about God and the Bible when we look at these theories and test and evaluate them, but we must always be humble enough to know that we are students trying to learn from God and not presume to have it all figured out. The passing of these watch dates can be a harsh teacher in that regard. But yes, Atonement does look plausible to me. It really does. |
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Post by MissusMack08 on Sept 25, 2017 14:46:27 GMT -6
anonymouse , do please don't set your heart up to be disappointed. I think because the rapture did not occur in the Feast of Trumpets like was hypothesized, because it made sense from the perspective of Jesus fulfilling the feast days in order, we can't keep looking to the next feast(s) as potential fulfillment dates. I know the Jubilee theory is out there and maybe it's true (who am I to say the rapture WON'T occur on any particular day) but it does feel like people are grasping at straws now. Maybe I'm wrong, but I think the best thing is to just watch and encourage others to just watch too, not look to another date. I really think we need to start seeing the dragon come together. I have looked at the Jubilee Day of Atonement theory and I thought it had some merit to it. I don't think it is just grasping at straws, and believe me, I asked myself that as I was evaluating it, but it does make sense of a few points of the September 23 rapture theory that had always bothered me, like how the sign itself didn't really fall on Feast of Trumpets unless you adopt an alternative and minority view on what day the Feast of Trumpets is, and even then it fell on the 2nd day of the alternative view, assuming a second day is even Biblical. However, if the birth on the 23rd is sealed and completed when the child is named and circumcised on the 8th day, which just happens to be the Day of Atonement, that makes the timing of the sign perfect! Plus, Trumpets is sort of a countdown. Actually, it's the continuation of a countdown that starts on 1 Elul which just happened to be the day of the Great American eclipse. If 40 is the number of testing, how much sense would it make for God to cut that time short and not give the people of the world a full 40 days repent and turn to him? Traditionally for Jews, Rosh Hashanah is when they get even more serious about reforming their lives in the 10 days of awe that lead up to the Day of Atonement. If the rapture had happened on Rosh Hashsanah, then they would have already missed their chance, but traditionally the books are not closed until the Day of Atonement. It just seems intuitively to make more sense that God would give the Jews and the world the full 40 days to repent before passing the judgment on them that they must endure the 7 year tribulation. It might not be on Atonement. One thing the passing of September 23 has taught us is that it's hard to figure this stuff out in advance. That doesn't mean that we can't see that we are near the end though. The sign was real, and I do believe the rapture is very close one way or another. I enjoy speculating because I think the timing will be significant, and it helps us to learn more about God and the Bible when we look at these theories and test and evaluate them, but we must always be humble enough to know that we are students trying to learn from God and not presume to have it all figured out. The passing of these watch dates can be a harsh teacher in that regard. But yes, Atonement does look plausible to me. It really does. I'm not saying it's not plausible, but it's not a date set in the sky like Sept 23-24 was. It was legitimate to conjecture the possibility of the rapture on these dates because God gave us the date. The point is, don't put your hopes in a particular date, just keep watching. Don't over sensationalize or over-rationalize a particular date in an attempt to convince yourself and others that it's "the day." We don't know and it's not clear. Yes, there are a few verses that could be applied but apart from a prophet of God (who everyone recognizes as a true prophet of God) tells us we have interpreted correctly, we need to approach it with a level head and caution. We'll know as we see the day approaching as it gets closer. |
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Post by David Anderson on Sept 26, 2017 0:32:15 GMT -6
The Rev 12 sign, just like the blood moons and solar eclipse's, are warning signs that the end is coming. The rapture can happen before I finish this senten....^^
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Post by yardstick on Sept 26, 2017 9:26:10 GMT -6
The Rev 12 sign, just like the blood moons and solar eclipse's, are warning signs that the end is coming. The rapture can happen before I finish this senten....^^ haha... |
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Post by evenso on Sept 26, 2017 10:11:16 GMT -6
I don't understand the logic of a DoA Rapture. Wouldn't that skip over FoT? What am I missing?
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