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Post by brad on Sept 24, 2017 12:31:12 GMT -6
So the moon has now passed through the scales. We can conclude now one of only 2 things...
1- We were wrong about everything... This was just all a giant set of coincidences....or 2- We were Correct about the date of the Revelation 12 Alignment, but did not understand how it all works.
Both of these are real possibilities, but if we were off then where? Many have pointed out glaring gaps in verses 1 thru 5 which could mean a later birth date.
Perhaps the biggest mistake we made is the conception date. A normal pregnancy is 280 days.
It was already 27 days past due on the 23d (307 days) if we count the entry of Jupiter into Virgo as the conception date. We wanted to fit this whole thing into a nice neat package... It just wasn't correct.
Looking at a conception date of 2/5/17 when Jupiter was low in the "Womb" and starting retrograde, we get a much better exact 280 day fit of the birth at the moment Jupiter and Venus have their "Bethlehem" conjunction on the 12th of November.
So this entire experience might be just one huge set of coincidences... But I'm not going to concede until the 19th of November.... Stay ready! Attachments:
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Post by yardstick on Sept 24, 2017 12:49:02 GMT -6
I'll take what's behind Door #2 Monty Brad!
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Post by yardstick on Sept 24, 2017 12:52:49 GMT -6
Hey Brad, check out Matt 24:30. Isn't the sign of the Son of Man traditionally/historically a conjunction of Venus and Jupiter?
November 12, right?
BTW, How would you fit the 'conception comet' into your conception date?
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Post by brad on Sept 24, 2017 13:26:39 GMT -6
Hey Brad, check out Matt 24:30. Isn't the sign of the Son of Man traditionally/historically a conjunction of Venus and Jupiter? November 12, right? BTW, How would you fit the 'conception comet' into your conception date? Yardstick, I've always thought Matt 24:30 to be referring to the 2nd coming..... your thoughts? Mathew 24:30 30 Then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in heaven, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
As far as the "Conception Comet" goes, not quite sure what to make of it... There is however another comet to consider.... 96P/Machhloz... it is there at zoom speed as the Venus/Jupiter conjunction is forming, and then just below the serpent of Ophiuchus on the 12th of November.
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Post by yardstick on Sept 24, 2017 22:14:52 GMT -6
Hey Brad, check out Matt 24:30. Isn't the sign of the Son of Man traditionally/historically a conjunction of Venus and Jupiter? November 12, right? BTW, How would you fit the 'conception comet' into your conception date? Yardstick, I've always thought Matt 24:30 to be referring to the 2nd coming..... your thoughts? Mathew 24:30 30 Then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in heaven, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
As far as the "Conception Comet" goes, not quite sure what to make of it... There is however another comet to consider.... 96P/Machhloz... it is there at zoom speed as the Venus/Jupiter conjunction is forming, and then just below the serpent of Ophiuchus on the 12th of November. After much reading on this forum, I have drawn the conclusion that Matthew 24 is mostly related to the Tribulation, and the Second Coming. This kinda makes a little sense to me, because Jesus was talking to the Jews at the time, who were asking him about the Millennial Reign and the end of the age, both of which occur after the harpazo and the Tribulation which is where the Lord begins dealing with Israel again.
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Post by christian on Sept 24, 2017 22:28:26 GMT -6
Yardstick, I've always thought Matt 24:30 to be referring to the 2nd coming..... your thoughts? Mathew 24:30 30 Then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in heaven, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
As far as the "Conception Comet" goes, not quite sure what to make of it... There is however another comet to consider.... 96P/Machhloz... it is there at zoom speed as the Venus/Jupiter conjunction is forming, and then just below the serpent of Ophiuchus on the 12th of November. After much reading on this forum, I have drawn the conclusion that Matthew 24 is mostly related to the Tribulation, and the Second Coming. This kinda makes a little sense to me, because Jesus was talking to the Jews at the time, who were asking him about the Millennial Reign and the end of the age. I agree. Jesus revealed the rapture to Paul later, hence the 'mystery' in 1 Cor 15. I believe I went wrong by not trusting Rev 12 to be in chronological order. The second wonder seems to appear before the child is caught up. But I have been wrong many times before and next weekend is definitely a high watch time. Maranatha and God bless you all in Jesus' name
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Post by yardstick on Sept 24, 2017 22:34:56 GMT -6
After much reading on this forum, I have drawn the conclusion that Matthew 24 is mostly related to the Tribulation, and the Second Coming. This kinda makes a little sense to me, because Jesus was talking to the Jews at the time, who were asking him about the Millennial Reign and the end of the age. I agree. Jesus revealed the rapture to Paul later, hence the 'mystery' in 1 Cor 15. I believe I went wrong by not trusting Rev 12 to be in chronological order. The second wonder seems to appear before the child is caught up. But I have been wrong many times before and next weekend is definitely a high watch time. Maranatha and God bless you all in Jesus' name caught me in an edit heh....
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Post by brad on Sept 25, 2017 12:53:39 GMT -6
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Post by disciple4life on Oct 3, 2017 1:52:53 GMT -6
Hey Brad, check out Matt 24:30. Isn't the sign of the Son of Man traditionally/historically a conjunction of Venus and Jupiter? November 12, right? BTW, How would you fit the 'conception comet' into your conception date? Yardstick, I've always thought Matt 24:30 to be referring to the 2nd coming..... your thoughts? Mathew 24:30 30 Then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in heaven, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
As far as the "Conception Comet" goes, not quite sure what to make of it... There is however another comet to consider.... 96P/Machhloz... it is there at zoom speed as the Venus/Jupiter conjunction is forming, and then just below the serpent of Ophiuchus on the 12th of November. There's a lot of things we just can't be sure about - but some we can.!! The passage in Matt 24 is 100% - without question, at the end of the tribulation. - Why ?How can we be 100% sure?? - because in the exact same passage - a few verses earlier he is talking about the Abomination of Desolation, and after these things he mentions this. ***This is very important, because this is one of the several passages of "No one knows the day or hour" that people take out of context. Aside from the part that it refers to the Feast of Trumpets - No one knows the day or hour - because it's hard to see the new moon, and sometimes it's cloudy, or rainy, etc - the phrase 'No one knows the day or hour' is not even referring to the rapture. **Most everyone agrees that when the heavens and earth pass away, melt, explode - The whole world - anyone that's around will know it. ;-)
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