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Post by yardstick on Jul 24, 2017 8:19:03 GMT -6
I still believe there is some form of "alien" element to this. whether an "alien" will be the AC is debatable, but this deception has to fit in someplace. Perhaps to only provide explanation for the rapture or something more will be determined or perhaps god will reveal it to us soon enough. Do a little digging on Sufi Islam philosophy and how to 'become God'... |
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Post by mike on Jul 24, 2017 9:50:48 GMT -6
I still believe there is some form of "alien" element to this. whether an "alien" will be the AC is debatable, but this deception has to fit in someplace. Perhaps to only provide explanation for the rapture or something more will be determined or perhaps god will reveal it to us soon enough. Do a little digging on Sufi Islam philosophy and how to 'become God'... Interesting (& cool!) ... I think I heard/read somewhere that the Muslims would reject anyone who claimed to be 'god'. But it is possible (I suppose) that if some "alien" form(s) manifested they would certainly explain (deceive) many into a new view of god... |
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Post by watchmanjim on Jul 24, 2017 11:28:10 GMT -6
Yes, I suspect you are right, Mike, and I guess we'll see how it unfolds.
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Post by mike on Jul 24, 2017 11:46:55 GMT -6
Yes, I suspect you are right, Mike, and I guess we'll see how it unfolds. Well hopefully not! We may be gone when all that happens  |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2017 12:45:30 GMT -6
Yardstick and Mike, May I ask where you are seeing the sufi/god information? I'd like to peruse it. I just glanced at www.sufischool.org and saw the 'Meet the Students' tab - and well there you go!....The New World Religion Movement!!!!! |
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Post by mike on Jul 24, 2017 13:40:25 GMT -6
Yardstick and Mike, May I ask where you are seeing the sufi/god information? I'd like to peruse it. I just glanced at www.sufischool.org and saw the 'Meet the Students' tab - and well there you go!....The New World Religion Movement!!!!! I think the Sufi angle is Yardstick's. I know very little about the Muslim religion overall but do recall reading something about them rejecting anyone claiming to be God. I think it is the primary reason they reject the divinity of Christ. However it is possible an alien would/could change their view on God completely. |
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Post by watchmanjim on Jul 24, 2017 23:07:07 GMT -6
Yes, I suspect you are right, Mike, and I guess we'll see how it unfolds. Well hopefully not! We may be gone when all that happens LOL, I meant, I hope we are watching from the grandstands on that one. (If we bother to look down much!) |
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Post by yardstick on Jul 24, 2017 23:28:29 GMT -6
Yardstick and Mike, May I ask where you are seeing the sufi/god information? I'd like to peruse it. I just glanced at www.sufischool.org and saw the 'Meet the Students' tab - and well there you go!....The New World Religion Movement!!!!! The article posted at the beginning of this thread has two videos in it, iirc. One appears to be newer than the other, but you can see the sufi ritual of 'emptying onesself out' (for purposes presumably of possession, though i doubt they know it). Apologies, It was in another thread. let me dig it up... here is the link. I found it looking for 'erdogan' in a general web search, iirc: shoebat.com/2015/03/31/shocking-and-amazing-erdogan-has-now-declared-himself-to-be-god/ as I understand it, Sufi islam followers try to 'empty themselves' of everything that is 'me' and by so doing they become 'nothing' which is their definition of 'god'. Fascinating if this ends up being wordplay in the scriptures, since we westerners would expect someone to announce 'i am god because i am someone'; rather than 'i am god because I am no one' here is the thread: unsealed.boards.net/thread/426/erdogan |
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Post by duydao on Sept 16, 2017 19:03:42 GMT -6
what about Turkey's current leader? The ottoman empire was once strong and is now gone. Recep Erdogan, their current president = 666 as well.
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Post by sawdy on Oct 26, 2017 19:50:53 GMT -6
This may need its own thread, but it was brought to mind when I was reading this thread.
I don't know if any of you have seem the really odd animated short, I Pet Goat II. In it, a young child's head is wounded until he is healed by the anti-Christ and he becomes a whirling dervish.
There is alot of speculation about what hidden messages are in the video, I personally have watched it a few times because I didn't quite catch what happened the first time and don't really care to seek answers in it but rather in God's word. The video is not from Christ and I don't really care to have myself spiritually influenced by forces that are not from God.
So with caution, I post the link.
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Post by disciple4life on Oct 28, 2017 12:05:44 GMT -6
I still believe there is some form of "alien" element to this. whether an "alien" will be the AC is debatable, but this deception has to fit in someplace. Perhaps to only provide explanation for the rapture or something more will be determined or perhaps god will reveal it to us soon enough. Yeah, mike, I'm with you. I think the "several heads" piece is telling us that it's a system, or coalition of countries.
I think the AC will be a real person - not an alien, and I think there is strong support to believe he will be Jewish, - but I would like to know other arguments. I definitely think that the Alien element will be the only plausible "Explanation" by world leaders when the Harpazo happens.
Two big things - the rise in Alien movies, comics, TV shows, and 'sightings' in the last 30 years has gone through the roof. Then there's the whole "Area 51" thing in the middle of the dessert in Nevada. I'm bettin it's not the Colonel's secret blend of spices, and they're not making fudge. Then, - think about it - no government will ever admit that it was the rapture - though you can be sure some newspapers will print it. Also, it will take some time to get a handle on the demographics of the tens of millions missing. Lots of 'secret Christians' in places like China, Viet Nam, & Muslim Countries' and then millions of So-called Christians in the US & Canada that will be here. Then there's the millions of babies/ children missing in non-Christian & Catholic countries. The only "Plausible explanation" will be Alien abduction.
I'm sure that then, they will say, - We knew about it for years, - we've been studying it, and had proof of sightings, etc, but didn't want to cause a nation-wide panic.
**The other thing - I believe that the countless 'sightings' over many years, and stories corroborated by witnesses, of UFO's people describing the same event, with the same descriptions, details, etc, are demons that manifest. It totally fits with scripture. Satan appears as an Angel of light. Demons went into swine. Demons cause people to hear voices. it's my hypothesis - but I'm sure that the alien angle will be there. D4L.
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Post by mike on Oct 28, 2017 18:16:54 GMT -6
Yeah D4L I agree the AC is likely Jewish or the texts about the Assyrian (Isa,Eze?), but the alone thing is the only rational explanation for missing people.
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Post by boraddict on Nov 25, 2017 22:57:58 GMT -6
I watched on the internet a man walk on water. Also he lifted himself into the air. Or, rather, some unseen force lifted him into the air. This guy was quite confident and appeared to be so nice. However!!!! Lord Jesus tells us that these spirits will draw people to them. I guess it does not have to be raging evil but just enough to cause doubt in your testimony. Just a little crack in the armor so to say.
Years ago I was enamored with James Van Prague. Such a kind and loving person helping those who passed over communicate with their living relatives. I considered all angles of how he could do what he does and there is only one answer which is evil spirits pretending to be beings of light. In my opinion Van Prague was duped. Not only that, he is a tool in Satan's bag of tricks.
Now days I automatically know that these jokesters are out of line with the gospel message. However, there was a time that I did not know.
Once in church I heard a guy say that he did not know that Lord Jesus was real or that there was a Christ. I was very proud of that guy for not pretending to know.
Once, I heard a guy give a talk about angels and afterwards I asked if he had in fact seen an angel. He said No. I thought I had found a kindred spirit because I had as a small child seen an angel. I had also on anther occasion felt the forces of darkness.
I have been in vision four times with the Savior and once with God the Father. It has not helped me to stop sinning! I am still a loathsome creature not worthy of consideration yet salvation is in my life. Nothing that I have done has saved me, yet, here I am a creature of salvation through Lord Jesus.
I have an absolute knowledge of Christ; much beyond that of faith. I know because I have visited with him face to face. I asked at the age of 19, "Whats it like to be the richest," to which he said, "they chose me," as we traveled in a white European style carriage past people working in a garden and working on a house exterior. They stopped and watched us as we rode by. That is perhaps my best vision. The one with God the Father was this: I was following him in a sea of people. He walked for a long time and came to a very tall and large door. He opened the door and turned and said to me "I will always be with you." Then he turned back around, walked forward and closed the door behind him.
I am convinced that our testimony is the key to our rapture participation (Matt. 22:12). That is not to say that all on the rapture have a maxed out testimony, but they have a testimony of the Christ and the rapture. Children would of course ride upon the testimony of their parents.
This brings me to the subject of this thread. I considered Rev. 13:3 for several weeks and then skipped the verse and moved on through Chapter 13. I concluded that there are several potential correct interpretations. However, the most correct is in the angels explanation in Rev. 17:7-18. That is, Rev. 13:3-4 harmonize with Rev. 17:13-14. Thus, the ten kings that I have concluded to be the United Nations gives their power to the seventh kingdom beast (false prophet Francis). Then, this beast puts down Russia, Great Britain, and Germany, and Russia is revived to its communist roots taking over the world as the eighth kingdom beast (Dan. Chapter 7). Thus, it is my opinion that Russia is the head that was wounded and yet lives.
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Post by davidjayjordan on Dec 6, 2017 1:27:26 GMT -6
True good find as I noticed this supposed new technology as well. Head transplants as the rich desperately want new bodies and new life, and yet the direction of time, and the onset of age and deterioration dictates they are going to die, as the Lord laws state and according to physics and the LAWS of THERMODYNAMICS.compiled by the Christian Newton, although created again by the Lord, as He created true SCIENCE and all LAWS. Geneticists and biologists are out of control because they have adopted the insane, unscientific bogus theory of evolution. Its a religion and not science. But according to their dementia, they must get involved and chanve genetics rather than wait a billion years for a lucky mutation to change us or give us eternal life. Therefore they are cloning and doing transgenetics with animal traits and installing AI into robots. etc etc. But thats another SIGN that we are absolutely in the End Time For as in the days of Noah before the Flood so shall it be in the end times. They mess with the Lords created beautiful design and human and godly IMAGE and the Lord shall and will smite them. |
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Post by davidjayjordan on Dec 6, 2017 1:35:16 GMT -6
Revelation 13:3 though is about the AC, and in battle, as the Presdient of Russia, he does get a deadly wound and then gets healed right in Jerusalem also called Egypt and Sodom. So lets know the exact timing...exactly from an exact verse
3 And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast.
4 And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?
5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.
This is obviously at the start of GREAT TRIBULATION as the time period is exactly the same as all the other refences concerning the GT.
Hence on the world stage, after three western countries have been defeated, when entering into the 3rd TEMPLE, I would suggest a priest or rabbi or protester shoots him or stabs him or seemingly kills the AC with a deadly wound.. right before everyone. Its broadcast of course worldwide so everyone sees him expecting him to die, but he resurrects to try and show that he is invincible, and that he is Jesus... as he is the ANTI-Christ and pretends to be Christ Like. He is not a mad man type, but a law and order, strict to the letter of the law tyrant who will demand absolute obedience. For who can fight the beast when he raises up right before all. Kiril the false prophet shall priase him and declare him God 2 Thes 2)
And any that dont believe will be hunted down and killed.. Thats over 3.5 years away from any fulfillment but thats the scenario of events and on the timline of the Lord.
ATS
David
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