jan7 - welcome to Unsealed!
Yes I agree. I still hold that it is hard to say the "Beast" is (solely) an actual person as no one I know of has 10 heads. Note that the post I made on that was my first week on this site. I have learned much since then and had to alter my view on many end times items as they were previously formed by bad movies from the 90's.
venge - David Jordan was removed from the site in December (I think?). As you can see this was not scriptural, not were most of his views. Don't expect a reply 😉
Mike,
Copy That. Good to know!!!
Ahem, not to mention Daniel says the 4th beast is the 4th kingdom (Daniel7:23) and that this kingdom rises out of the sea (Daniel 7:3)
But, there are also 4 beasts that arise out of the earth. (Daniel 7:17)
The dream had 2 main parts:
1. The part of the beasts that rise out of the sea.
In verse 19 Daniel ask's the question:
The Angel answers it:
2. The part of the Beasts that rise out of the earth.
This is the second part of his dream. In verse 8 after thinking about the beast that rises out of the sea and its 10 horns, we see:
We see his dream now has left the beast of the sea and has moved to a horn that models the Antichrist.
Since the angel established the 4th beast is the 4th kingdom, we know through scripture horns are men. And this verse above shows that the horn had "eyes of a human being". he even says in verse 11:
Immediately he asks the angel what is all this. The angel doesn't start from the beginning which was the beast of the sea, but moves right to the beast of the earth. In verse 16-17:
Daniel's statue had 4 kingdoms. The head of Gold (Babylon), the arms and Chest of silver (Media-Persia) and the Bronze thighs (Greece). Each kingdom rises from the sea. But, the angel also had stated there are also 4 beast that rise from the earth and not the sea. He also stated the ones that rise from the earth are kings. So, we have beast from sea are kingdoms and beast from the earth are kings. Kings rule kingdoms do they not?
Babylon had Nebuchadnezzar, Media Persia Had Cyrus the Great, Greece had Alexander, the 4th kingdom will have the Antichrist. Now, I have posted this before in a different format but this is for
Jan7.
In revelation, there is only 1 beast that rises from the sea and only 1 beast that rises from the earth. People will have their own opinions, but the Daniel states what is what. Only the false prophet rises from the earth as a beast and each beast that rises from the earth rises to rule the beast kingdom that comes out of the sea. I know this because in verse 24, it proves it:A Horn will rise up which is a king. He will be the 11th horn. This King that rises from the earth will come from the 4th kingdom. He will then rule the 4th kingdom of the sea as he is the king that rises from the earth. He is the one that is the Antichrist and he does this for 3.5 years. Notice in the text, it is not talking about of the beast of the sea. It is saying the 11th horn does these things. He comes from the earth.
Rev 13:11
VS.
Like Mike said, outside of everything I just showed you from scripture....can men have 7 heads. If the beast is a kingdom and the horns are its kings, the 7 heads cannot be kings too as some think. Why venge why? Because the heads don't have crowns anymore! The horns wear the crowns. The heads were slain and lost their crowns.
In Rev 12:3 we see:
In the past, before the 7 heads were slain, each head wore a crown, the horns did not. As each head was slain thru time, it lost the crown. But when all the heads were slain and the beast that was and is not, yet is comes back, the horns are given a crown 1 hr with the beast of the sea. Rev 17:12
After that hr, the horn that rises from the earth removes 3 horns and rules the beast of the sea himself as the 4th beast of the earth; which fulfills Daniel's angel's prophecy foretold to him.
