Anti-Christ

Dave, thank you for reminding me about the 666 analysis. I derived that during a period of time several years ago when I told my son to help me in the analysis. Then after a few days or weeks and several attempts at cracking the code I considered that the number 4, and 40, and 400, and 4000, were repetitions throughout scripture. Thus, by subtracting 400 from 666 the result is 266 and that is the number of the current Catholic pope, Francis.

It was then that I could see that John had referenced the church as 400 and he (John) knowing the claim of the false prophets to be leading Christ's church then number 666 that is 400 for the church and 266 for Francis is the Mark of the Beast era; or, at least the 666 false prophet era.

The Catholics are very proud of this numbering back to the early church, and that Francis is number 266.

Dave I tried to find the posting that you referenced but could not. If you know where it is can you link it to your post.

Post Script: That is so funny. I had not noticed that you were referencing my 666th posting and not my analysis of 666. It's like the individual that got the 666th membership a few weeks ago. I would have loved to have been number 666. That would be so much fun.

I don't remember anyone here saying it wasn't or they didn't think it was blasphemous, because of course it is! It's arrogant and pompous and the thought of the words coming out of their mouths in regards to who they think they are makes me shake in my shoes for them at the thought of what the creator of the world thinks of this behavior. 

Just because we do not agree with your particular opinion on the topic does not mean anyone here does not think it isn't wrong. I really think you have misunderstood what is being presented in response to your post. 

canada yes that brief statement of faith is something that I disagree with and is certainly not biblical. I am very certain Venge would agree on that, but he can answer for himself

I would suggest that his point was that no one gets it 100% correct. Would you agree that it's possible that somewhere in your own convictions that you could believe something that is a grey area? Or maybe even something that later on in life you change a position on? I know I've been there. I mean the only thing I am dogmatic about is 1 Cor 15:3-4 (really the whole chapter). So my point (and maybe Venges too) was it's ok if you call your bio or adopted earthly father, by the title of father or dad. This is not a salvation issue but stating that the pope sits in Christ's position....agree that is a problem. A doctrine of devil's if you will

Hi boraddict ... I just google Westminster Confession Of Faith.

Most, if not all, Presbyterian churches hold to this confession.
I think you would agree with 99% of it's content.

Could it be then that you've googled a different confession of faith?

The Westminster Confession of Faith.

This has been the historic doctrine of the true church.

The year was 1644, the place was Westminster Abbey, that famous London church. The room inside the abbey was called the “Jerusalem Room.” The gathering there in the year 1644 was a gathering of the best theological minds and the greatest biblical scholars in England. The Puritans were the dominating force there, the well-known Puritans, lovers of scripture, lovers of God, lovers of Christ, lovers of truth. And these Puritans gathered together, about a hundred of them, with lords and commoners together. And they embarked upon a five-year endeavor, five years of intense study of scripture, five years of intense dialogue, five years of intense scholastic effort, five years of discussion, five years to produce a statement of doctrine.

Five years later, in the year 1649, they completed their task and what they produced is known as “The Westminster Confession of Faith.” The Westminster Confession of Faith. Well-known Puritans like Thomas Goodwin, James Usher, Jay Lightfoot, Samuel Rutherford, Jeremiah Burroughs, and the chairman of this group, a man named Twisse – T-W-I-S-S-E - labored for these five years to produce what has become the most important Christian creed called “The Westminster Confession of Faith.”

In that creed, among other things, is a statement about the security of salvation, about the fact that salvation is eternal. This, they were convinced, was what the Bible taught. They didn’t call it the “security of salvation,” they actually called it “perseverance,” and they named it correctly. In The Westminster Confession of Faith there is a brief and unambiguous declaration.

The Confession says this - and I quote. “They whom God hath accepted in his beloved Son effectually called and sanctified by his Spirit can neither totally nor finally fall away from a state of grace, but shall certainly persevere therein to the end and be eternally saved.”

That is the biblically accurate and well-summarized statement of the perseverance of the saints in The Westminster Confession. And frankly, that statement needs no amending. It needs no altering. As it stands, it is biblically accurate. Anyone who has been accepted in God’s beloved Son, effectually called unto salvation, and sanctified by the Spirit can neither totally nor finally fall away from the state of grace, but shall certainly persevere therein in that state of grace to the end and be eternally saved. - John MacArthur.

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The Westminster Confession of Faith (1647)

by Various

The original text of 1646, from the manuscript of Cornelius Burges, Assessor to the Westminster Assembly, with the Assembly’s proof texts, as published in the modern critical edition of 1937 by S. W. Carruthers.

Chapter I.

Of the Holy Scripture.

I. Although the light of nature and the works of creation and providence do so far manifest the goodness, wisdom, and power of God, as to leave men unexcusable;(a) yet are they not sufficient to give that knowledge of God and of His will, which is necessary unto salvation.(b) Therefore it pleased the Lord, at sundry times, and in divers manners, to reveal Himself, and to declare that His will unto His Church;(c) and afterwards, for the better preserving and propagating of the truth, and for the more sure establishment and comfort of the Church against the corruption of the flesh, and the malice of Satan and of the world, to commit the same wholly unto writing:(d) which maketh the Holy Scripture to be most necessary;(e) those former ways of God’s revealing His will unto His people being now ceased.(f)

(a) Rom. 2:14, 15; Rom. 1:19, 20; Ps. 19:1, 2, 3; Rom. 1:32, with chap. 2:1.
(b) I Cor. 1:21; I Cor. 2:13, 14.
(c) Heb. 1:1.
(d) Prov. 22:19, 20, 21; Luke 1:3, 4; Rom. 15:4; Matt. 4:4, 7, 10; Isa. 8:19, 20.
(e) II Tim. 3:15; II Pet. 1:19.
(f) Heb. 1:1, 2.

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""The Westminster Confession of Faith is considered by many to be the best statement of systematic theology ever framed by the Christian church.

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Question: "What is the Westminster Confession of Faith?"

Answer: The Westminster Confession of Faith, drawn up in the 1640s by an assembly of 151 theologians (mostly Presbyterians and Puritans) at Westminster Abbey, is the standard of doctrine for the Church of Scotland and many Presbyterian churches throughout the world.

The resulting document did not solve all the religious and political strife in England, but it did provide a brilliantly written and influential statement of biblical doctrine.

The Westminster Confession of Faith is considered by many to be the best statement of systematic theology ever framed by the Christian church. As an attempt to “correctly handle the word of truth” (2 Timothy 2:15), the Westminster Confession of Faith has stood the test of time and remains a prime doctrinal standard for Protestants and evangelicals everywhere.

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This is where i think we are right now.

We're waiting for some specific number of saints to go marching in. Maybe, possibly, about a third of every new life that enters into the world right now will be in that number.

And when we reach that number, look out. That should be it. Because there's no coming back for more. 

What other unknown variable is there? The composite beast, the Antichrist, can cause a delay. Through birth control, the abortion pill and popularizing the abortion laws. And the same sex marriage to a lesser degree, would probably have a negative effect on the birth rates. The dragon could buy himself some extra time, maybe about the space of half a season, half a hora. I'm reading that Israel only has two seasons, Winter and Summer, so for about the space of 6 moons.

It might be very similar, or related to this:

"until the number of their fellow servants and their brothers should be complete, who were to be killed as they themselves had been.

We wait for a specific number to be made complete. We wait for a little season, a little "hora". Only the Father can know what the number is. Not even the angels of heaven. It's about the Elect Infants. Our fellow Servants and Brothers.

Woe to pregnant women.

Dreadful sorry Clemantine.

Chapter Ten, ---> section III,

The Elect Infantry.

The Westminster Confession.
Chapter X.
Of Effectual Calling.

I. All those whom God hath predestinated unto life, and those only, He is pleased in His appointed and accepted time effectually to call,(a) by His Word and Spirit,(b) out of that state of sin and death, in which they are by nature, to grace and salvation by Jesus Christ;(c) enlightening their minds spiritually and savingly to understand the things of God,(d) taking away their heart of stone, and giving unto them a heart of flesh;(e) renewing their wills, and, by His almighty power determining them to that which is good,(f) and effectually drawing them to Jesus Christ:(g) yet so, as they come most freely, being made willing by His grace.(h)

(a) Rom. 8:30; Rom. 11:7; Eph. 1:10, 11.
(b) II Thess. 2:13, 14; II Cor. 3:3, 6.
(c) Rom. 8:2; Eph. 2:1, 2, 3, 4, 5; II Tim. 1:9, 10.
(d) Acts 26:18; I Cor. 2:10, 12; Eph. 1:17, 18.
(e) Ezek. 36:26.
(f) Ezek. 11:19; Phil. 2:13; Deut. 30:6; Ezek. 36:27.
(g) Eph. 1:19; John 6:44, 45.
(h) Cant. 1:4; Ps. 110:3; John 6:37; Rom. 6:16, 17, 18.

II. This effectual call is of God’s free and special grace alone, not from anything at all foreseen in man,(i) who is altogether passive therein, until being quickened and renewed by the Holy Spirit,(k) he is thereby enabled to answer this call, and to embrace the grace offered and conveyed in it.(l)

(i) II Tim. 1:9; Tit. 3:4, 5; Eph. 2:4, 5, 8, 9; Rom. 9:11.
(k) I Cor. 2:14; Rom. 8:7; Eph. 2:5.
(l) John 6:37; Ezek. 36:27; John 5:25.

--->III. Elect infants, dying in infancy, are regenerated, and saved by Christ through the Spirit,(m) who worketh when, and where, and how He pleaseth:(n) so also, are all other elect persons who are uncapable of being outwardly called by the ministry of the Word.(o)

(m) Luke 18:15, 16, and Acts 2:38, 39 and John 3:3, 5 and I John 5:12 & Rom. 8:9 compared.
(n) John 3:8.
(o) I John 5:12; Acts 4:12.

IV. Others, not elected, although they may be called by the ministry of the Word,(p) and may have some common operations of the Spirit,(q) yet they never truly come unto Christ, and therefore cannot be saved:(r) much less can men, not professing the Christian religion, be saved in any other way whatsoever, be they never so diligent to frame their lives according to the light of nature, and the law of that religion they do profess.(s) And to assert and maintain that they may, is very pernicious, and to be detested.(t)

(p) Matt. 22:14.
(q) Matt. 7:22; Matt. 13:20, 21; Heb. 6:4, 5.
(r) John 6:64, 65, 66; John 8:24.
(s) Acts 4:12; John 14:6; Eph. 2:12; John 4:22; John 17:3.
(t) II John ver. 9, 10, 11; I Cor. 16:22; Gal. 1:6, 7, 8.

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