davewatchman - I never made it to Times Square Church. I was so involved in the local church I belonged to, I never had time for anything outside of the events going on there.
It made me think of my Mom. She was always asking me to go with her to church. Especially at Christmas. She had cardiomyopathy, an enlarged heart. Her heart stopped beating one Sunday when i was 45. I got old the next day.
I wanted to circle back on "Thus saith the Lord" since part of my reading today was in
Deut 13
1If there arise among you a prophet, or a dreamer of dreams, and giveth thee a sign or a wonder, 2And the sign or the wonder come to pass, whereof he spake unto thee, saying, Let us go after other gods, which thou hast not known, and let us serve them; 3Thou shalt not hearken unto the words of that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams:
Deut18
20 But the prophet, which shall presume to speak a word in my name, which I have not commanded him to speak, or that shall speak in the name of other gods, even that prophet shall die. 21 And if thou say in thine heart, How shall we know the word which the LORD hath not spoken? 22 When a prophet speaketh in the name of the LORD, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which the LORD hath not spoken, but the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously: thou shalt not be afraid of him.I did more googling on Pastor Dave, that's what the people called him that knew him.
And i found the two "newsletters" that appear to be the ones in question.
And i also noticed a funny thing that he did, and other people do, in his sermon videos. They'll say things like: "The Holy Spirit made clear to me, or: "The Holy Spirit impressed upon my heart, or: "I am compelled by the Holy Spirit to speak to you today.
I see the same thing from that white rapper guy and his wife who make the videos out of their car on a smartphone. He's a funny guy, he's passing out pamphlets, i think his heart is in the right place. I don't think they mean that God the Father or Jesus actually spoke with them. They'll say something like: "The Holy Spirit showed this to me. I think it's more like a figure of speech that they've inherited from someone else that they've saw.
I also believe that, at some point, fire IS going to fall from Heaven, in the full view of men. I think that this is the fire that is CAUSED by the man of sin. I also think that this is the fire that Jesus was pointing to in Luke 17 when He mentioned that the Son of Man would be revealed just like on the day that Lot left out from Sodom. What happened on that day? The wrath of God was revealed from Heaven against the sons of disobedience. This is not a popular thing to discuss.
But Lot and his daughters were safe. I don't believe that this is something that we need to fear. This is not a random, or a natural event. God can direct every burning ember to it's intended target. I'm not even sure that we'll be here at that time. I'm more worried about the innocent animals, than i am of myself.
Check out the links to the Wilkerson newsletters that caused the trouble. They're very brief. The second one is a follow up to the first.
Snip of the first:I am compelled by the Holy Spirit to send out an urgent message to all on our mailing list, and to friends and to bishops we have met all over the world.
For ten years I have been warning about a thousand fires coming to New York City. It will engulf the whole megaplex, including areas of New Jersey and Connecticut. Major cities all across America will experience riots and blazing fires—such as we saw in Watts, Los Angeles, years ago.
I will say to my soul: No need to run...no need to hide. This is God’s righteous work. I will behold our Lord on his throne, with his eye of tender, loving kindness watching over every step I take—trusting that he will deliver his people even through floods, fires, calamities, tests, trials of all kinds.
Note: I do not know when these things will come to pass, but I know it is not far off. I have unburdened my soul to you. Do with the message as you choose.
God bless and keep you,
In Christ,
DAVID WILKERSON
davidwilkersontoday.blogspot.com/2009/03/urgent-message.htmlSnip of the follow up:Recently I felt compelled to send out an URGENT message warning of an impending great calamity — such that will cause even God’s elect to tremble.
One Bishop asked, “Is there no further word: How should the righteous respond to such a word?”
I can only answer by sharing what the Holy Spirit is speaking to my own heart and what I am to do. I shared that I was led in a practical way to lay aside a month’s supply of food — because I have witnessed the panic in the wake of terrorism. That has to be a personal word for every individual.
This is what I hear the Holy Spirit speaking to my heart concerning my own spiritual response to impending calamity. It is simply this —STAND STILL AND SEE THE SALVATION OF THE LORD.
“And Moses said to the people, Fear ye not, stand still, and see the salvation of the Lord, which he will show you today…The Lord shall fight for you, and you shall hold your peace” (Exodus 14:13-14).
“Stand still. Fear not. This is the hour of salvation. You are going to witness the pulling down of the foundations of a world power. But in the same hour, I will fight for you. Hold your peace — be still and see my works.”
Beloved, my warning is just one voice among many who are saying the same thing. We may all tremble for a season, but those who truly know God’s Word will be quickly comforted by the Holy Spirit. We will be baptized with a great peace — a supernatural quietness — which will be a tremendous witness to the fearful multitudes.
In Christ,
David Wilkerson
davidwilkersontoday.blogspot.com/2009/03/further-word.htmlPS: I hope you're out there watching this Norman.