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Post by watchmanjim on May 20, 2017 17:21:26 GMT -6
I think we will see an astronomical apparition in the sky at some point that will represent the dragon. A comet, asteroid storm, planet X, or whatever. This will coincide with the onslaught of the war in the heavens between the opposing angelic armies.
My gut feeling, as I have said before, is that the dragon will be physically seen on August 21 during the eclipse. When people look upward, they will see the Virgo / Leo sign under assembly. The eclipsed sun and moon will be in close conjunction with Regulus. The eclipse itself is a sign in the heavens. Jupiter will be visible nearing its birth approach. When humankind looks up for the eclipse and sees the previously unseen red dragon waiting there at Virgo's feet, I suspect that is when suddenly men's hearts will fail within them and the world will be overcome with fear, especially as science and media go on to interpret for the masses what these things mean--ie an upcoming collision with meteors, comet, etc.
The astronomical signs correlate closely with spiritual reality.
Don't forget: Rev 8:8 And the second angel sounded, and as it were a great mountain burning with fire was cast into the sea: and the third part of the sea became blood; Rev 8:9 And the third part of the creatures which were in the sea, and had life, died; and the third part of the ships were destroyed.
It could be that this is part of the dragon sign, and this is why men's hearts fail within them, because science and government finally admits that a giant asteroid or comet is on collision course with earth.
But I don't discount that malangelic beings might also be seen (as space aliens), landing or crashing to earth, possibly in their crafts.
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Post by brad on May 21, 2017 12:47:34 GMT -6
Comet or asteroid on collision course would definitely fit with the description... Looks like we will find out soon...the clock is ticking fast!
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Post by kjs on May 26, 2017 9:56:50 GMT -6
While I admit it is perfectly possible for the “Dragon Sign might just be 100% Supernatural in nature” There is one item holding me back from taking this approach – which is verse three starts off with “Then another sign appeared in the sky” (other translations use the word heaven instead of sky). Since verse one starts off “A spectacular sign appeared in the sky”….
I would tend to need to assume if one is “in the sky” – then the other sign would need to be there as well.
I am leaning more toward the “second sign” (or Dragon Sign for short) – will becoming “reality” shortly before the completion of the first sign …. Possibly even September 9th – when it appears the “birth” starts to take place (when Jupiter starts to exit)….
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Post by Gary on May 26, 2017 10:21:13 GMT -6
You may very well be right. Welcome to the board, kjs!
I'm on the fence on this one. "Ouranos" can be either "sky" or capital "H" Heaven. It could be that John is bouncing back and forth in his descriptions. Rev 12:1-2 would be the sky since no similes are used and no warning is given that it is just a metaphor. He speaks of the real sun, moon, and stars. Perhaps in Rev 12:3-4 he bounces back to describing a supernatural sign because the sun and moon are not mentioned and the "third of the stars" could be referring directly to the angels which are in Heaven in verse 9.
On the other hand, I can totally envision this being a star with orbiting planets entering our solar system or a comet breaking apart that looks huge in our field of view.
Could even be both.
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Post by whatif on May 26, 2017 19:53:10 GMT -6
Welcome to the forum, kjs!
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Post by watchmanjim on May 26, 2017 20:50:31 GMT -6
I think we'll see it, and I'm still advocating for Aug.21.
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Post by Jackson on Jun 1, 2017 9:43:28 GMT -6
Brad, just a thought of mine I had a while back. We are told that the adversary is before the throne of God accusing the brethren continually. So if so, that's should be where he is now. At some point it is said that he is cast to the earth because there is no more a place found for him in heaven. The Heavens rejoice because he has been cast down, and woe to the inhabitants of the earth. If the child is caught up to God and his throne before the dragon can touch it, then maybe we see him descending to earth as we are assessing into heaven, or see him cast down as we arrive. John was in the Spirit when he saw these things, much like we will be. So if he saw a fiery "extremely angry" dragon taking a third of the "stars" with him, we may see the same. The scripture says that when he gets to earth and sees that the child is gone, he goes after the woman with a great anger, or however the book writes it. I could be off, please let me know if y'all have anything to add or help me clear up anything I could have missed.
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Post by whatif on Jun 1, 2017 12:02:22 GMT -6
Welcome to the forum, Jackson! I see this is your first post. It's a pleasure to meet you!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2017 16:41:58 GMT -6
Welcome Jackson! Interesting to consider!
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Post by watchmanjim on Jun 1, 2017 17:20:27 GMT -6
That is possible, Jackson, and welcome!
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Post by brad on Jun 1, 2017 22:44:46 GMT -6
Jackson, Welcome! You must be my long lost brother! I've been thinking the exact same thing! Man this is getting exciting! Welcome home Jackson... can't wait to see ya in the clouds... if the dragon appears, I'll be proud to fight by your side...
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Post by kjs on Jun 2, 2017 6:57:11 GMT -6
Jackson, that is a great thought ... If the dragon is thrown down the exact moment we go up .... It would certainly explain why "other sign" is still missing at this time.....
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Post by Gary on Jun 2, 2017 10:47:05 GMT -6
Welcome to the board Jackson and brilliant thought, btw.
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Post by findtruth on Jun 2, 2017 12:44:38 GMT -6
Hi! I found an interesting link on line. https ://youtu.be/ZDcUKPtmMlU wanted to share. Thoughts?
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Post by findtruth on Jun 2, 2017 12:52:59 GMT -6
The link didn't work. Anyway, if one goes on Google sky , there is an area that is blacked out. However, the image is emerging out of the area and it looks like 2 stars close together and it's very ominous looking. It is located right at the womb of virgo. If someone with computer savvy can look at that, it would be great to know what this possibly could be...
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