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Post by whatif on Jul 23, 2017 15:22:03 GMT -6
Here's some interesting information regarding the Skull and Crossbones Nebula. Come to find out, it is a birthplace of stars! Is this a great connection to our Revelation 12 sign or what?!!
NGC 2467 (sometimes referred as the “Skull and Crossbones”) is an emission nebula with an age of a few million years at most, It is an extremely active stellar nursery, where new stars are born continuously from large clouds of dust and gas. Located some 13,000 – 17,000 light-years away from Earth in the southern constellation of Puppis.
Source: Uri Abraham, "NGC 2467 - Skull and Crossbones Nebula," AstroBin, 2010-2017, www.astrobin.com/164112/
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Post by watchmanjim on Jul 23, 2017 22:13:55 GMT -6
Sounds like that nebula is actually a lot farther away than the Ross star.
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Post by whatif on Jul 23, 2017 22:18:54 GMT -6
Ahhh! I see! I wonder why Stellarium has Ross listed with the nebula...?
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Post by whatif on Jul 23, 2017 22:27:28 GMT -6
Thank you for pointing that out, watchmanjim! I just checked Stellarium again, and it still brings up the two together in the search window when I look up Ross 128, but when I search for Skull and Crossbones Nebula it takes the screen image to an entirely different location. Looks like there's some error there...
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Post by watchmanjim on Jul 23, 2017 22:35:44 GMT -6
Maybe the nebula is "behind" the star from our viewpoint.
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Post by whatif on Jul 23, 2017 22:41:25 GMT -6
Okay, I think I've figured it out... When I typed in Ross 128, I stopped typing after Ross because the search window had a suggestion come up for "Ross 128, Skull and Crossbones Nebula," but below that I hadn't seen that it said "Not Found." So when I hit "enter" after Ross, it took me to Ross 128, but apparently not the nebula.
Sorry for the confusion, everyone! Like I said earlier, I'm not a super-duper Stellarium wonder by any means!   
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Post by WarriorX on Jul 26, 2017 17:43:03 GMT -6
Have you seen the infrared image that's in the vicinity of Virgo's "legs" right now? It only shows up on infrared and Google or somebody has put a big black rectangle over it trying to hide it. It doesn't show up in any other views apparently.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2017 18:30:37 GMT -6
Welcome, Warrior! Glad to see you came over! That image is from 1983, when the IRAS survey was taken. However, seeing as it is almost exactly where Jupiter will be on September 23, I do wonder...
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Post by watchmanjim on Jul 26, 2017 18:46:26 GMT -6
It may be this thread, or a different one, if you go back far enough we talked about it. It had us pretty excited for a while, until we found out the picture was 34 years old.
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Post by yardstick on Jul 26, 2017 22:00:02 GMT -6
Have you seen the infrared image that's in the vicinity of Virgo's "legs" right now? It only shows up on infrared and Google or somebody has put a big black rectangle over it trying to hide it. It doesn't show up in any other views apparently. yeah, its a view from 1983 |
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Post by sclarksacks on Aug 5, 2017 6:14:01 GMT -6
My focus for the last few days is on Rev 12 vs 3-4 which says it is also a sign in the shamayim. If John is explaining a sign that is visible to the naked eye in vs 1-2, then mustn't it also be for 3-4? Vs 3 starts, "And another sign was seen..." Perhaps it is simply referring to Planet X. (the constellation of the man and the snake at Virgo's feet doesn't seem "vision worthy" while Planet X does). Anyway, there is nothing in vs 3-4 that tie it directly to the beginning of the tribulation and it's placement in the chapter suggests that it's noticed in real time before the harpazo in vs 5. Why has John sandwiched 3-4 in between 1-2 & 5? There is a lot going on there, and it is all occuring between 6:35pm on 9/23/17 (in Israel) & before the man child is caught away in vs 5.
1) seen by whom?
2) no sun or moon, but stars cast to the earth. A comet shower? Is that so.ething you can find on stellarium?
3) the Great Sign is "without a doubt." Why is the dragon so speculative?
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Post by whatif on Aug 5, 2017 17:00:55 GMT -6
Welcome to the forum, sclarksacks! I really like that picture you've selected!
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Post by brad on Aug 5, 2017 17:48:55 GMT -6
Welcome Sclarksacks! You ask a great set of questions about that elusive Dragon... I'm typing on my cell phone, so till I get home this will be short...the Revelation description of the dragon says nothing about the sun or the moon.The stars are mentioned, but it's likely alluding to the fallen angles... Since thousands of us have spent lots of time looking, and no real agreement has been seen, many of us are thinking the dragon is likely a supernatural event that will form in the sky just as the Child (us) is being born. More tonight!
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Post by barbiosheepgirl on Aug 5, 2017 18:08:44 GMT -6
wow, crovonox! where do you guys find this stuff?!!!
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Post by socalexile on Aug 5, 2017 20:06:08 GMT -6
My focus for the last few days is on Rev 12 vs 3-4 which says it is also a sign in the shamayim. If John is explaining a sign that is visible to the naked eye in vs 1-2, then mustn't it also be for 3-4? Vs 3 starts, "And another sign was seen..." Perhaps it is simply referring to Planet X. (the constellation of the man and the snake at Virgo's feet doesn't seem "vision worthy" while Planet X does). Anyway, there is nothing in vs 3-4 that tie it directly to the beginning of the tribulation and it's placement in the chapter suggests that it's noticed in real time before the harpazo in vs 5. Why has John sandwiched 3-4 in between 1-2 & 5? There is a lot going on there, and it is all occuring between 6:35pm on 9/23/17 (in Israel) & before the man child is caught away in vs 5. 1) seen by whom? 2) no sun or moon, but stars cast to the earth. A comet shower? Is that so.ething you can find on stellarium? 3) the Great Sign is "without a doubt." Why is the dragon so speculative? I noticed in Stellarium that Jupiter heads towards Libra in the following months and then retrogrades again around early May, does that have something to do with it? Biblically, there is this passage that I've been wondering about, as the Song of Solomon is about the relationship of Christ and His Bride: SoS 2: 8 The voice of my beloved! Behold, he comes Leaping upon the mountains, Skipping upon the hills. 9 My beloved is like a gazelle or a young stag. Behold, he stands behind our wall; He is looking through the windows, Gazing through the lattice. 10 My beloved spoke, and said to me: “Rise up, my love, my fair one, And come away. 11 For lo, the winter is past, The rain is over and gone. 12 The flowers appear on the earth; The time of singing has come, And the voice of the turtledove Is heard in our land. 13 The fig tree puts forth her green figs, And the vines with the tender grapes Give a good smell. Rise up, my love, my fair one, And come away! Some things to consider if we were to look at this passage as a Rapture one: -The clues about the season in this passage (green figs, smell of the grapes, voice of the turtledove), put this around late April to early May. -The traditional Day of Ascension, 40 days after the resurrection and 10 days before Pentecost (per Acts 1:3-9), is on the 10th of May next year. -Jupiter goes into Libra on December 25th 2017, and begins to reverse out of it in mid-late April, leaving it on 31 May. I'm not a Stellarium expert so check the dates. |
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