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Post by rant on Apr 26, 2019 19:08:39 GMT -6
Hi venge Im not here to argue with you or anyone else but you seem to have this problem with the scourge>> They >>They >> the one world religion has the power over 1/4 of the earth to kill then in the next chapter the Tribulation saints show UP!!>> Venge>> shack you head and think about IT!! That's all I can SAY!! ARE YOU RAPTURE READY?
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Post by boraddict on Apr 26, 2019 21:10:52 GMT -6
Is this the rant that many months ago was here? DS>> have you read I 28?>> and the scourge , and I see you want to say its all about the locusts!> I think it has more to do with this>> When the Lamb opened the fourth seal, I heard the voice of the fourth living creature say, “Come!” I looked, and there before me was a pale horse! Its rider was named Death, and Hades was following close behind him. They were given power over a fourth of the earth to kill by sword, famine and plague, and by the wild beasts of the earth.>>> They were given power over a fourth of the earth to kill by sword,>> WHO ARE THEY??? THAT IS THE SCOURGE!!>> And that is what Israel is trying to avoid in I28>>Enjoy>> that is the Whore Mystery Babylon >>> The World Church killing the tribulation saints at this time. When he opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of those who had been slain because of the word of God and the testimony they had maintained. They called out in a loud voice, "How long, Sovereign LORD, holy and true, until you judge the inhabitants of the earth and avenge our blood?" I’m guessing I am DS? The one who doesn’t know prophecy? Well, I study but I am human. If I err, I hope the HS can lead me to understanding. But prophecy doesn’t save, so I’m not worried. I also don’t use prophecy to witness to others, so I am not tainting the gospel nor am I teaching things that could be wrong to unsaved. Your text is quite cryptic and difficult to read. I don’t believe the scourge is MB. MB is a city, the scourge is man. The scourge destroy MB...so how could they be the same? Your suggestion that the Church kills its own people and is responsible for their death is confusing. Not only that but if the church is at fault, then a man is blameless. Every man is accountable for his own actions. Don’t blame the Church which is an entity. Ps. Good morning Venge, that is not playing fair; I wanted to be DS.  |
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Post by yardstick on Apr 26, 2019 21:34:35 GMT -6
Is this the rant that many months ago was here? DS>> have you read I 28?>> and the scourge , and I see you want to say its all about the locusts!> I think it has more to do with this>> When the Lamb opened the fourth seal, I heard the voice of the fourth living creature say, “Come!” I looked, and there before me was a pale horse! Its rider was named Death, and Hades was following close behind him. They were given power over a fourth of the earth to kill by sword, famine and plague, and by the wild beasts of the earth.>>> They were given power over a fourth of the earth to kill by sword,>> WHO ARE THEY??? THAT IS THE SCOURGE!!>> And that is what Israel is trying to avoid in I28>>Enjoy>> that is the Whore Mystery Babylon >>> The World Church killing the tribulation saints at this time. When he opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of those who had been slain because of the word of God and the testimony they had maintained. They called out in a loud voice, "How long, Sovereign LORD, holy and true, until you judge the inhabitants of the earth and avenge our blood?" I’m guessing I am DS? The one who doesn’t know prophecy? Well, I study but I am human. If I err, I hope the HS can lead me to understanding. But prophecy doesn’t save, so I’m not worried. I also don’t use prophecy to witness to others, so I am not tainting the gospel nor am I teaching things that could be wrong to unsaved. Your text is quite cryptic and difficult to read. I don’t believe the scourge is MB. MB is a city, the scourge is man. The scourge destroy MB...so how could they be the same? Your suggestion that the Church kills its own people and is responsible for their death is confusing. Not only that but if the church is at fault, then a man is blameless. Every man is accountable for his own actions. Don’t blame the Church which is an entity. Ps. Good morning venge, we believe the DS stands for your post count category: Demon Slayer... |
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Post by boraddict on Apr 26, 2019 21:48:12 GMT -6
Okay Venge, you can be DS and I will be D DS.
Rant, please do not mess around and get kicked off of this site. If you will just slow down and follow the rules everything will be okay. Also, wont you please respond to my posts. I was so happy earlier when I saw you respond to BAR; I thought it was me. Then I found that you were responding to Barb.
Rant, I think that you are a lot of fun and I hope we can continue debating Isaiah 28. Come on back to the discussion.
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Post by venge on Apr 27, 2019 9:10:03 GMT -6
Hi venge Im not here to argue with you or anyone else but you seem to have this problem with the scourge>> They >>They >> the one world religion has the power over 1/4 of the earth to kill then in the next chapter the Tribulation saints show UP!!>> Venge>> shack you head and think about IT!! That's all I can SAY!! ARE YOU RAPTURE READY? Hey rant, I am rapture ready because I try daily to keep my house on the rock. He is our fortress and our stronghold in times of trouble I apologize, but I don’t believe in tribulation saints. That is a hypothetical analysis. The believers during the seals and trumpets are Christians and part of the body of Christ. It is never suggested that they are not us nor is it suggested that they are separated from us at any time. People assume so. To me, they are the Church. It is evident that crying to God in the 5th seal to ask him to punish the wicked on the earth means he has not done it yet TILL other Christians die in Like matter. Doing so, imo, speeds along the departure of the faithful. I would ask you to provide scripture to validate your point that the scourge is a 1 world religion. |
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Post by mike on Apr 27, 2019 11:02:35 GMT -6
venge, unfortunately rant was shown the door for repeated ignoring moderator requests to adhere to rule 3. sorry he wont be able to continue the conversation
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Post by venge on Apr 27, 2019 12:37:37 GMT -6
venge , unfortunately rant was shown the door for repeated ignoring moderator requests to adhere to rule 3. sorry he wont be able to continue the conversation So...can I still be DS? |
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Post by yardstick on Apr 27, 2019 14:28:07 GMT -6
venge , unfortunately rant was shown the door for repeated ignoring moderator requests to adhere to rule 3. sorry he wont be able to continue the conversation So...can I still be DS? until your post count gets too high haha |
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Post by mike on Apr 27, 2019 18:21:42 GMT -6
jamie - we really do our best to keep this site open minded. We tolerate certain things at times because it is truly difficult to gauge personality on the forum without some time to dialogue. It takes some time for the members to to relate too 😉
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Post by mike on Apr 27, 2019 18:30:37 GMT -6
venge - personally speaking the old categories were better. Both myself and yardstick were "raptured" maybe the same day or one night and the next morning. You ARE a Demon Slayer 😉 In all seriousness I know it's only a fun 'status' thing, I am not one to take demons lightly. I trust others understand this too. Michael, the only archangel named in scripture (except maybe Lucifer) didn't try to exercise superiority over Satan, rather said the Lord rebuke you, understanding where his authority came from. Jude 1:8 Likewise also these filthy dreamers defile the flesh, despise dominion, and speak evil of dignities. 9 Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke thee. 10 But these speak evil of those things which they know not: but what they know naturally, as brute beasts, in those things they corrupt themselves. 11 Woe unto them! for they have gone in the way of Cain, and ran greedily after the error of Balaam for reward, and perished in the gainsaying of Core. 12 These are spots in your feasts of charity, when they feast with you, feeding themselves without fear: clouds they are without water, carried about of winds; trees whose fruit withereth, without fruit, twice dead, plucked up by the roots; 13 Raging waves of the sea, foaming out their own shame; wandering stars, to whom is reserved the blackness of darkness for ever.
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Post by boraddict on Apr 27, 2019 18:34:47 GMT -6
until your post count gets too high haha That is so funny. Once I understood that rant abbreviated Demon Slayer as DS then I could see that he was a sharp fellow. It was then that I decided to go for the kill shot over Isaiah 28. It was going to be so much fun but now he is gone. "Hold on just a little longer Rant" I spoke softly through my closed lips. That is so funny! |
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Post by yardstick on Apr 27, 2019 23:35:06 GMT -6
venge , unfortunately rant was shown the door for repeated ignoring moderator requests to adhere to rule 3. sorry he wont be able to continue the conversation Rant was the same way on every forum I encountered him on. The problem with those forums is that there are too many people like him on them. I've left nearly all of them because of mean people. Other than forum's being full of mean people, now the problem is that the Preterist have over-run them. Quite honestly, I can't stand Preterism. In case it hasn't been suggested to you, jamie: The believer's job is not to convince people. That is the Holy Spirit's job. We are only to give the good news, encourage each other, et al; but I think you will not find any Biblical mandate to 'force' conversion or a change of heart/mind. Thus it is best to discuss and debate (sometimes vigorously!) not convince. It never hurts to ask questions; namely: that someone explain (in great detail sometimes) how they came to the conclusions they did. Often this sheds a great deal of light on the subject matter for better understanding, as well as the presenter, for motive. Who knows, maybe even your mind/heart will get changed? |
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Post by yardstick on Apr 28, 2019 10:47:20 GMT -6
In case it hasn't been suggested to you, jamie: The believer's job is not to convince people. That is the Holy Spirit's job. We are only to give the good news, encourage each other, et al; but I think you will not find any Biblical mandate to 'force' conversion or a change of heart/mind. Thus it is best to discuss and debate (sometimes vigorously!) not convince. It never hurts to ask questions; namely: that someone explain (in great detail sometimes) how they came to the conclusions they did. Often this sheds a great deal of light on the subject matter for better understanding, as well as the presenter, for motive. Who knows, maybe even your mind/heart will get changed? I don't get it, where did I infer a 'forced conversion' attitude? Is it because I dislike Preterism, a system of beliefs that denies entire books and thousands of verses of God's prophetic Word? The Holy Spirit is only part of the equation. We have to be willing to consider other views, research and confirm them ourselves in order to be convinced. I think Christians too often expect to be enlightened simply because 'they have the Holy Spirit. If we want to acquire truth, we have to diligently seek it. The Holy Spirit doesn't just reveal it by turning a light on in our head. I've had people tell me on other forums that, "I know I'm right and have the truth because I have the Holy Spirit and the Holy Spirit wouldn't lie to me." Debate is a process by which people can see both sides, and here like most forums, I often show people how I arrive at my conclusions without them asking. I know when to ask questions, in fact I did a couple of times and didn't get an answer. When it comes to changing my mind, I'm all for it. I use to believe in pre-trib, believed a one world government, a global dictator, a one world religion, the rebuilding of a temple, Daniel's 70th week, a 7 year covenant brokered by the anti-Christ between Israel and the world. I use to believe the beast would originate from Rome and the EU, that the apostate Church was the whore of Babylon, that apostasy had all to do with the Church, that the mark of the beast was worldwide, that the beast of Rev. 17 was a progression of world Empires, and that the fourth kingdom of Daniel 2 was Rome. The bottom line is I likely changed my mind over the years more than anybody on the forum. And I'm still willing to change it when the evidence is there to do so. No one is accusing you of such an attitude, I promise! Have you ever witnessed vehement disagreement over a Biblical topic, where one or both parties are getting quite upset/angry over the other party's 'inability' to 'see the facts', or 'change their mind', or 'agree with me'? What often occurs is that the observer begins to see phrases like "You just dont get it...", or "If you had a proper understanding of the Bible...", or the like. What do you think happens next? Compelled conversion, or 'blocking' someone, or a big fight where the subject matter turns from learning and encouragement, to name calling (In the case of this board, the focus stops being Jesus and becomes the other person's imperfections). Have you seen this? At best, Moderators of boards usually end up banning all of the parties involved, right? At worst, you get the Crusades? Anyhow, your willingness to dialog is very helpful here. If you can direct us to the links about your questions, maybe someone can get you some answers. |
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Post by bernie on Jul 25, 2019 10:52:38 GMT -6
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Post by venge on Jul 26, 2019 10:11:58 GMT -6
I read the quotes of people there chanting build it build it. Christians wanting a third temple Which does not house God and was destroyed by Roman paid soldiers with God’s blessing. If God wanted it destroyed, why would any Christians want to rebuild it so that they could cause Christ to be sacrificed again? Or looking forward to the time of trouble? Or looking forward to others having trouble? I think we all want to be with Christ but glorifying, what God destroyed, that it may be built again? Ugh |
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