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Post by disciple4life on Mar 10, 2020 19:05:08 GMT -6
Daffodils are popping up everywhere and it’s finally Spring. New Life!! It’s almost that time of year when we celebrate the Resurrection Day!
In shops and stores everywhere, there are bunnies, and candy and baskets and eggs, all promoting “Easter”.
But this same time of year, all over the world, the culture and the mainstream church has embraced two Catholic myths that are inseparably linked – One being the “Palm Sunday myth", and the other being the “Good Friday Crucifixion.” I realize that when people realize they have been misled, there are predictable emotions of Denial, Anger and Embarrassment.
It is not my intention to cause strife, but rather to challenge people to simply examine the scripture for yourself, count using six fingers and connect the dots, and before you say "That's absurd" simply try to solve the dilemma.
In this thread, we will only deal with the first one – “Palm Sunday Myth” because the barrier is much smaller to overcome, and it's much less complicated. We will look at Three main points and examine the scripture that is often overlooked and most frequently used incorrectly. Then it is a very short step for a middle school child to see this teaching is easily refuted, and one can more easily come to the realization that the Good Friday Myth is equally fallacious.
Just let this thought percolate a few minutes. "Show me a person who believes in the Good Friday Crucifixion and every single time, I will show you a person who believes in the Palm Sunday Myth." Hmmmm. Why is this? Because both are built on the same exact false premise.
So why would pastors who have been to seminary, and have studied hermeneutics keep saying and teaching Jesus came into Jerusalem on Palm Sunday if he didn’t?
One, because these pastors heard this same myth repeated all their life, and had entered seminary already accepting this as truth, and no one took time to examine it for themselves. And Secondly, because sadly, many Christians are occupied with other things, and don’t want to be seen as challenging their pastor. They just accept it.
Isn’t it in the Bible that Jesus rode into Jerusalem on a donkey on Sunday and the people put down palm branches? Nope. It's a myth cut entirely from whole cloth.
The Catholic church has a long and well-documented history of hatred for Jews and a deep disdain for everything Jewish. They blamed the Jews for the death of Christ, and even banned circumcision, because it seen as Jewish.
** This contempt for Jewish life and culture led them to remove the Hebrew background and worldview and caused centuries of irreparable damage and false doctrines that have since been accepted by millions of protestant pastors.
In Hebrew, the word for sabbath is shabbat. In many languages, the word for Saturday is very close to Shabbat, and most know that the Jewish weekly sabbath is Friday night, Saturday day. But, what many don’t realize is that all the feasts are also ‘shabbat’. It’s one word, but there are 8 shabbats. The 7 feasts of the Lord, and the weekly sabbath are all “Shabbat”.
1. The Catholic church did not understand Jewish sabbaths, or that it’s the same word for the feasts. They started with the flawed assumption that the Passover was on a Friday because of a skewed understanding of preparation day. Because they didn’t understand Feasts, they didn’t realize that Passover is the day to prepare for the First Day of Unleavened Bread. ** They also didn’t understand Hebrew laws concerning which kinds of work was forbidden on which days.
2. So we have to go to an obscure passage that is most often overlooked because it’s only a blurb in a famous story. It’s the story of Mary, the sister of Lazarus, who anoints Jesus with expensive perfume.
John 12:1-3 New American Standard Bible (NASB)
Mary Anoints Jesus
12 "Jesus, therefore, six days before the Passover, came to Bethany where Lazarus was, whom Jesus had raised from the dead. 2 So they made Him a supper there, and Martha was serving; but Lazarus was one of those reclining at the table with Him. 3 Mary then took a pound of very costly perfume of pure nard, and anointed the feet of Jesus and wiped His feet with her hair; and the house was filled with the fragrance of the perfume."
OK, so just for a moment, let’s pretend that Hobbits are real, and Passover was on Friday. Now, take your left hand, and count backwards with your fingers -Thursday -1, Wednesday-2, Tuesday – 3, Monday -4, Sunday -5, and Saturday -6. The next day, Jesus rode into Jerusalem, and the people put down palm branches and cried Hosannah. So there’s Palm Sunday, right?? So where’s the problem. ??
The huge problem , or the nail in the coffin of the Palm Sunday myth is that The distance from Bethany to Jerusalem is almost 2 miles, more than 3 ½ times farther than what was allowed on a Sabbath day's journey.
A sabbath day’s journey was a very strict law, and this distance was 2000 cubits. A cubit is 18 inches, a common measurement of an adult man’s forearm, from the elbow to the tip of the middle finger. There are 2 cubits in one yard, so this is 1000 yards. For perspective this is ten American football fields or about ten blocks based on Midwest US city block .
John 11:18 New American Standard Bible (NASB)
18 “Now Bethany was near Jerusalem, about two miles off”
3. So we can see from scripture that it could not have been a Saturday when Jesus came to Bethany. It doesn’t work. The entire concept falls apart.
4. Some will say – Jews used “Inclusive reckoning” which is like towing companies count time, so a part of a day, counts as a day. This only makes the problem worse. So if we pretend again that Hobbits are real and Passover was Friday, and we include Friday as the 1st day, and count back six days, we get the trip to Bethany on Sunday, and the Entrance into Jerusalem on Monday. No Palm Sunday.
It's impossible to have Palm Sunday and a Friday Crucifixion. Both myths were based on a flawed interpretation - one that discounts the Hebrew worldview and is ignorant of Sabbaths and the laws that surround them, and completely ignores the only sign that Christ himself gave as proof that he was the Messiah.
He is Risen Indeed.
Disciple4life
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Post by yardstick on Mar 10, 2020 19:36:11 GMT -6
disciple4lifeone small correction: an 'american' football field is about 100 yards. Not 1000. However, 1000 yards when measured as cubits is about a half-mile...
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Post by Natalie on Mar 10, 2020 20:19:24 GMT -6
disciple4life , You might enjoy this by Chuck Missler: www.khouse.org/articles/2000/214/I just have one issue (with the article)...I think Jesus was at Bethany on Thursday, rode in to Jerusalem on Friday before the Sabbath started. Am I counting right? Thursday being six days before a Wednesday Passover? In my opinion: the best quote: The important thing is that the tomb was empty. second best: I personally have become rather cynical toward any tradition that is not supported by Scripture. (Yes, the Catholic Church is incorrect on this, but people just choose tradition)
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Post by Natalie on Mar 10, 2020 20:57:00 GMT -6
So, I was reading Mark 11, and Jesus and the disciples keep going back and forth between Bethany and Jerusalem (makes sense if they were staying with Lazarus' family for the Feasts). Thinking of the timeline, they'd have to do some walking on the Sabbath. But, then I got to thinking "Who created the law about traveling on the Sabbath?" It's not in the Torah is it? Would Jesus keep the laws that were man-made and held by tradition? He healed people on the Sabbath which seemed to be a big Pharisaical no-no. So many questions now.  However, I do think the OT says things about working animals on the Sabbath (maybe?) so He wouldn't have ridden into Jerusalem on Saturday because that would be work for the donkey. So, it had to be on Friday or on Sunday. But Sunday would mean a Thursday Crucifixion. But a Thursday crucifixion gives three nights and two days, not three.
ETA: I think I found an answer to my dilemma. From gotquestions: (https://www.gotquestions.org/Bethany-in-the-Bible.html)
"Bethany was a village in Judea about two miles east of Jerusalem (John 11:18), a distance considered a “Sabbath day’s journey” (Acts 1:12). Bethany was situated on the well-traveled road to Jericho. Some scholars think Bethany was more like a modern subdivision or a neighborhood rather than an entire town. The edges of Bethany reached to the Mount of Olives and also bordered Bethphage, a suburb of Jerusalem."
From what I was reading, a Sabbath's days walk was once you left the city limits/boundaries. So, if the edge of Bethany reached the Mount of Olives, that would be a Sabbath's day's walk according to Acts 1:12. "Then the apostles returned to Jerusalem from the hill called the Mount of Olives, a Sabbath day’s walk from the city."
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Post by disciple4life on Mar 10, 2020 22:34:58 GMT -6
disciple4life one small correction: an 'american' football field is about 100 yards. Not 1000. However, 1000 yards when measured as cubits is about a half-mile... Thanks, yardstick. I really want to be accurate - and I'm glad you caught that. I really appreciate the correction. I'll change it right away. ;-) I was trying to get something that people can relate to, but got my zero's wrong.
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Post by disciple4life on Mar 10, 2020 22:55:27 GMT -6
disciple4life , You might enjoy this by Chuck Missler: www.khouse.org/articles/2000/214/I just have one issue (with the article)...I think Jesus was at Bethany on Thursday, rode in to Jerusalem on Friday before the Sabbath started. Am I counting right? Thursday being six days before a Wednesday Passover? In my opinion: the best quote: The important thing is that the tomb was empty. second best: I personally have become rather cynical toward any tradition that is not supported by Scripture. (Yes, the Catholic Church is incorrect on this, but people just choose tradition) Thanks, Natalie, i can't wait to read it. I'm not real familiar with Chuck Missler, but from what I've see, he is a well-respected end-times teacher.
I think you nailed it with your analysis. ***The really cool thing with that- what you just mentioned, Natalie, it's huge. It's the importance of Nisan 10, [which is totally lost to 99% of Gentiles] This is a whole other thread, so i won't go on a rabbit trail - but briefly say that this date, the 10th was very significant because this is the day that the lamb was selected and presented as perfect for Passover. I also agree regarding what's important. I just think as watchmen, and watchwomen, we are called to a higher standard. Most of the people whom we know here, - the regular members are not content to simply sit back and accept Catholic tradition.
I think a lot of the stuff we kick around here is side stuff - it's fun and important, but i think for the most part, whether a person believes in a pre-trib or mid-trib rapture or post-trib, or believes the feasts are significant or not, or if the AC is alive or Elvis, or the Pope, etc, - these are not salvation issues.
With that said, I feel strongly that the only sign that Christ gave as proof that he is the Messiah is a totally different category. That's not to imply that if others don't agree, that they aren't Christians. It just drives me nuts that so many pastors have the formal training, and yet still accept and teach tradition over scripture, and these very pastors, can't even address the holes in the tradition, and literally dismiss the truth.
That's one of the things i really love about this community. There's 35 people who will call you out kindly if you get a reference wrong. heheh.
Blessings.
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Post by boraddict on Mar 11, 2020 1:06:24 GMT -6
disciple4life one small correction: an 'american' football field is about 100 yards. Not 1000. However, 1000 yards when measured as cubits is about a half-mile... Thanks, yardstick . I really want to be accurate - and I'm glad you caught that. I really appreciate the correction. I'll change it right away. ;-) I was trying to get something that people can relate to, but got my zero's wrong.
I would pay to see a football game played on a 1/2 mile field. I can see it in my mind, the players running past the 50 yard line with a quarter mile to go.  |
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Post by yardstick on Mar 11, 2020 20:14:17 GMT -6
disciple4life , You might enjoy this by Chuck Missler: www.khouse.org/articles/2000/214/I just have one issue (with the article)...I think Jesus was at Bethany on Thursday, rode in to Jerusalem on Friday before the Sabbath started. Am I counting right? Thursday being six days before a Wednesday Passover? In my opinion: the best quote: The important thing is that the tomb was empty. second best: I personally have become rather cynical toward any tradition that is not supported by Scripture. (Yes, the Catholic Church is incorrect on this, but people just choose tradition) Thanks, Natalie, i can't wait to read it. I'm not real familiar with Chuck Missler, but from what I've see, he is a well-respected end-times teacher.
I think you nailed it with your analysis. ***The really cool thing with that- what you just mentioned, Natalie , it's huge. It's the importance of Nisan 10, [which is totally lost to 99% of Gentiles] This is a whole other thread, so i won't go on a rabbit trail - but briefly say that this date, the 10th was very significant because this is the day that the lamb was selected and presented as perfect for Passover. I also agree regarding what's important. I just think as watchmen, and watchwomen, we are called to a higher standard. Most of the people whom we know here, - the regular members are not content to simply sit back and accept Catholic tradition.
I think a lot of the stuff we kick around here is side stuff - it's fun and important, but i think for the most part, whether a person believes in a pre-trib or mid-trib rapture or post-trib, or believes the feasts are significant or not, or if the AC is alive or Elvis, or the Pope, etc, - these are not salvation issues.
With that said, I feel strongly that the only sign that Christ gave as proof that he is the Messiah is a totally different category. That's not to imply that if others don't agree, that they aren't Christians. It just drives me nuts that so many pastors have the formal training, and yet still accept and teach tradition over scripture, and these very pastors, can't even address the holes in the tradition, and literally dismiss the truth.
That's one of the things i really love about this community. There's 35 people who will call you out kindly if you get a reference wrong. heheh.
Blessings.
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Post by disciple4life on Mar 12, 2020 15:27:18 GMT -6
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Post by kjs on Mar 19, 2020 21:57:44 GMT -6
disciple4life, yardstick, Natalie, boraddict, Sorry will have to disagree with you here. While you are correct the curcifixtion did not happen on Friday. Nisan 10 (selection of Lamb) occurred on the first day of the week (or Sunday). Will not go into all the details right now, but suffice to say the curcifixtion happened Wednesday night / Thursday morning ( or the fourth day when the lamb was sacrificed ) Jesus arrived in Bethany Friday before Sundown - where he shared the Sabbath meal with his friends. The next Day reference refers to the first day of the week, because the Sabbath was celebrated completely not as a day, but a day of rest. Making the first day (or Sunday) the day Jesus allowed himself to be recognized.
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Post by disciple4life on Mar 25, 2020 18:15:46 GMT -6
So, I was reading Mark 11, and Jesus and the disciples keep going back and forth between Bethany and Jerusalem (makes sense if they were staying with Lazarus' family for the Feasts). Thinking of the timeline, they'd have to do some walking on the Sabbath. But, then I got to thinking "Who created the law about traveling on the Sabbath?" It's not in the Torah is it? Would Jesus keep the laws that were man-made and held by tradition? He healed people on the Sabbath which seemed to be a big Pharisaical no-no. So many questions now. However, I do think the OT says things about working animals on the Sabbath (maybe?) so He wouldn't have ridden into Jerusalem on Saturday because that would be work for the donkey. So, it had to be on Friday or on Sunday. But Sunday would mean a Thursday Crucifixion. But a Thursday crucifixion gives three nights and two days, not three.
ETA: I think I found an answer to my dilemma. From gotquestions: (https://www.gotquestions.org/Bethany-in-the-Bible.html)
"Bethany was a village in Judea about two miles east of Jerusalem (John 11:18), a distance considered a “Sabbath day’s journey” (Acts 1:12). Bethany was situated on the well-traveled road to Jericho. Some scholars think Bethany was more like a modern subdivision or a neighborhood rather than an entire town. The edges of Bethany reached to the Mount of Olives and also bordered Bethphage, a suburb of Jerusalem."
From what I was reading, a Sabbath's days walk was once you left the city limits/boundaries. So, if the edge of Bethany reached the Mount of Olives, that would be a Sabbath's day's walk according to Acts 1:12. "Then the apostles returned to Jerusalem from the hill called the Mount of Olives, a Sabbath day’s walk from the city."
So, Natalie, Natalie, others, - I've been thinking about this - as Passover and Resurrection day gets closer and with all the hysteria and media-induced pandemonium, and we wait to see if the Sanhedrin will sacrifice a lamb on the Temple mount this year.
So, I realize that the quote above was a quote taken from Gotquestions.org - Normally I think it's a good, reliable source. They missed it on this one for sure.
There is a reference from John 11:18, which tells us that the distance was indeed about two miles. Then, oddly, they lifted a few words out of Acts 1:12, totally out of context. Again, for the sake of clarity, I'm not suggesting Natalie did this - but rather, Gotquestions. Let's look at the text surrounding it for context.
Acts 1:9-13 9 After he said this, he was taken up before their very eyes, and a cloud hid him from their sight.
10 They were looking intently up into the sky as he was going, when suddenly two men dressed in white stood beside them. 11 “Men of Galilee,” they said, “why do you stand here looking into the sky? This same Jesus, who has been taken from you into heaven, will come back in the same way you have seen him go into heaven.”
Matthias Chosen to Replace Judas
12 Then the apostles [returned to Jerusalem from the hill called the Mount of Olives], a Sabbath day’s walk from the city. 13 When they arrived, they went upstairs to the room where they were staying. Those present were Peter, John, James and Andrew; Philip and Thomas, Bartholomew and Matthew; James son of Alphaeus and Simon the Zealot, and Judas son of James.
The text says nothing whatsoever about Bethany. And when we look at the text, we furthermore see that 1. it doesn't mention Bethany anywhere in this passage. and 2. It says explicitly that the Sabbath days journey was "from the Mt of Olives, to Jerusalem" - a very short distance. 1000 yards. Not from Bethany to Jerusalem. Bethany is more than 4 times farther than what is permissible on a Sabbath.
Also, you made another very good point - Natalie said "So, it [the entry into Jerusalem] had to be on Friday or on Sunday. But Sunday would mean a Thursday Crucifixion. But a Thursday crucifixion gives three nights and two days, not three." 100% correct again, my sister !! The following five points - are nails in the coffin of the Friday Crucifixion. What's really at stake here?? Someone said - "Well, it doesn't really matter, the important thing is that He rose again." But this is not simply a technical detail like the real number of each kind of animal on the ark - or the true meaning of nephilim.
Either we can trust Christ's own words that He is the Messiah, or we can't. And we either accept the clear words of scripture or the traditions of man, which distorts scripture. - Three days and three nights -- There is the huge irreconcilable problem, of Christ's own clear words - and the only sign he gave to prove that he was indeed the Messiah - The sign of Jonah. 3 days and 3 nights.
Christ quoted the prophet Jonah - Jonah 1:17 "And the Lord appointed a great fish to swallow up Jonah. And Jonah was in the belly of the fish three days and three nights." - Problem with "Hebrew Inclusive reckoning misconstrued" This is one of the most blatantly distorted reasons parroted over and over by pastors and Christians. But it's fallacious reasoning to cite "Jewish inclusive counting here. The flawed logic is that people say - Friday afternoon counted as one day, Friday evening/Saturday day counted as two days and Saturday evening counted as the third day. Clear passages always supercede/ trump unclear passages. Inclusive reckoning does not apply when the text says 40 days and 40 nights. It's not 38 days and two hours of two days, that Jesus was tempted in the desert, or 38 days and 2 hours of 2 days when it rained during the Great Flood of Genesis.
- Problem with the Guard. The next day after the crucifixion - Which was a high Sabbath - Feast of Unleavened Bread - and for Jews, all work was forbidden. So Pilate set a Roman guard on the tomb for three days, and the tomb was sealed with a Roman seal. Anyone who came and disturbed the tomb during the 3 days would be arrested. Mary Magdalene and Mary the Mother of Jesus and all the disciples knew this. This is yet another spike in the coffin of the Friday crucifixion/ Palm Sunday myth. A Friday crucifixion would mean that the guard was not in place until Saturday noon at the earliest. Scripture says Pilate put a guard on the tomb for 3 days - Friday crucifixion means the guard was there fewer than 12 hours.
- Problem with the Spices - The Text is explicitly clear - and uses the plural form "After the Sabbaths" ***Remember the Catholic church did not understand Feasts or Sabbaths, because of its deep contempt for everything Jewish. Weekly Sabbath is Shabbat, and Feast of Unleavened Bread is Shabbat, and Yom Kippur is Shabbat. Passover is Shabbat but work was commanded. Slaughter a lamb, cut wood, build a fire and roast it. This was preparation day for the Sabbath - Feast of Unleavened bread. Scripture says explicitly that the women bought spices before the Sabbath, and also says they rested on the Shabbat and bought spices after the Shabbat. How can this be possible ??
They rested on Feast of Unleavened bread, Wednesday night/Thursday day. Then - Thursday night/Friday day they bought spices, and this was before the weekly Shabbat, when work and buying and selling was prohibited. - Problem with Jewish burial customs. ***This is also another example of how the Catholic church's lack of understanding Jewish culture and worldview caused them to misinterpret scripture. Jews believe that the spirit of a person lingers near the body for three days. Not two days - or a day and a few hours of a day. Three days.
 After this time- the person is truly dead, meaning no chance of being in a coma. This is why Lazarus was dead four days. Remember Jesus heard that Lazarus - his beloved friend was sick and they called him to come sooner - but Jesus delayed. Hhhhhm. Why not come after Lazarus was dead 1 day. or 2. But, because he waited until the fourth day - the miracle of his resurrection and Christ's power over death was obvious to all.
Maranatha, my fellow watchmen.
Next year in New Jerusalem. !!
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Post by disciple4life on Apr 5, 2020 8:14:51 GMT -6
disciple4life, yardstick, Natalie, boraddict, kjs, Hello Friends, After living in a Catholic country for almost 13 years, I saw the direct, blatant way the Catholic church changed scripture, and have posted several places that there is a long and well-documented history of hatred for Jewish people and culture and how this disdain directly perpetuated the Catholic myths of Palm Sunday and Good Friday crucifixion - two of the biggest that protestant pastors still parrot to this day. Here's a fantastic video by Dr Chuck Missler, that shows how the Catholic church deliberately separated Passover from Resurrection, so that it would never fall on Passover, not even by accident, because Passover is a moving Feast day. [ Kudos to mike, for this great find]. Another interesting thing is that this year is the first time in 2000 years, since the temple was destroyed in AD 70 that Jews around the world are sheltered in their homes for Passover. Mind blowing. **Several rabbi's are on record teaching and saying that if Jews everywhere would just keep one Shabbat [Sabbath] that Messiah would come.🤔 It's incredible to think that of all the world wars, AIDS, Sars, Holocaust, etc, etc. - that this is the only time that could have happened, because commerce, shopping, most businesses are closed, and even public transportation in Israel is stopped. Despite all the chaos, and media-induced hysteria, Passover and Resurrection day will continue. ;-) He is risen indeed. Next year in Jerusalem.
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Post by yardstick on Apr 5, 2020 17:58:12 GMT -6
disciple4life , yardstick , Natalie , boraddict , kjs , Hello Friends, After living in a Catholic country for almost 13 years, I saw the direct, blatant way the Catholic church changed scripture, and have posted several places that there is a long and well-documented history of hatred for Jewish people and culture and how this disdain directly perpetuated the Catholic myths of Palm Sunday and Good Friday crucifixion - two of the biggest that protestant pastors still parrot to this day. Here's a fantastic video by Dr Chuck Missler, that shows how the Catholic church deliberately separated Passover from Resurrection, so that it would never fall on Passover, not even by accident, because Passover is a moving Feast day. [ Kudos to mike , for this great find]. Another interesting thing is that this year is the first time in 2000 years, since the temple was destroyed in AD 70 that Jews around the world are sheltered in their homes for Passover. Mind blowing. **Several rabbi's are on record teaching and saying that if Jews everywhere would just keep one Shabbat [Sabbath] that Messiah would come.🤔 It's incredible to think that of all the world wars, AIDS, Sars, Holocaust, etc, etc. - that this is the only time that could have happened, because commerce, shopping, most businesses are closed, and even public transportation in Israel is stopped. Despite all the chaos, and media-induced hysteria, Passover and Resurrection day will continue. ;-) He is risen indeed. Next year in Jerusalem.
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Post by disciple4life on Apr 5, 2020 18:40:53 GMT -6
yardstick , I have read and studied a fair bit on the reformation, but don't know anything about the counter-reformation?
Could you elaborate a bit more. ?
I know that there are indeed some parallels - some things that we share with Catholics, and I know that there is a growing "Catholic Renewal Movement- in Poland and other countries. [Believe in Salvation by grace through faith in Christ, and don't pray to Mary or other saints, and believe in the person and work of the Holy Spirit. But this is a very very small minority.
From all my experience, there are indeed Catholics who read the Bible and are very moral people, who try to follow Christ, but who are deluded.
In many countries like Mexico, or Ireland, or Italy or Poland, it's all they have known for 15 generations - It's the default setting. Many Poles have never met a single Evangelical, there are hundreds of small towns and villages where there is not a single Evangelical church.
In other cities - the only other option besides Catholic is Jehovah's witness.
I would be very interested to hear/ learn more, yardstick about the counter-reformation. As to the long history of hatred of Jews, this literally goes back thousands of years, because they blamed the Jews for Christ's death.
Ironic, really - when the Catholic church is the False Prophet, and it's so sad and mind-numbing to think about how many Protestant pastors have had formal training and years of seminary and yet still continue to accept and teach Catholic myths and man's tradition over scripture.
I must say, we stand on the shoulders of great men and women of faith who came before us and they didn't have a monopoly on truth, nor did they have all the answers or all the pieces on end times - I really like what Pastor Steve Chiccolanti said, - "We should glean all we can from them, and don't demonize them because they didn't get every part right. We learn from each other, and then pass that on to others.
Just because the person doesn't have everything correct, it doesn't make them a false prophet."
We need to be like the Bereans and study the scriptures to see that these things are true.
Chuck Missler may have simply misspoke - need to give him the benefit of the doubt. He said "that six days before Passover - Jesus went from Bethany to Jericho."
This is very strange and there's nothing in this passage anywhere that says Jesus or the disciples were in Jericho. They were in Bethany and Jerusalem and just after Jesus raised Lazarus, he and the disciples went to Ephriam, a small town in the dessert, about 14 miles from Jerusalem, and Jericho was about 25 Kilometers, or about 15 Miles.
The point being, that whether we are talking about Bethany, or Ephraim, or Jericho, the distance between these places was much too far to be allowed on a Sabbath, and even if you use Jewish inclusive counting, it makes the triumphal entry on a Monday.
As Occam's razor states - the simplest answer is usually the correct one. Friday crucifixion was impossible. This myth all came about because of the deep hatred of the Jewish people, and the deliberate attempt to separate the Resurrection from Passover.
Best quote of the week for me was today, in a streamed sermon - and it reminded me of the Catholic church and how they didn't recognize that their own sins - all mankind's sins nailed Jesus to the Tree.
"Before we can look at the Cross as something done for us - we need to look at the Cross as something done by us"
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Post by matthew2423 on Apr 5, 2020 18:52:36 GMT -6
disciple4life, I do agree with you that the Catholic Church has become an unbiblical religious institution. However, I do think that Christianity should still commemorate the events of Holy Week, especially the day of the Crucifixion. It is not necessary for salvation that we should know the day of the week that the Triumphal Entry and the Crucifixion occurred. However, the Church should still commemorate them as it relates to Easter.
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After this time- the person is truly dead, meaning no chance of being in a coma. This is why Lazarus was dead four days. Remember Jesus heard that Lazarus - his beloved friend was sick and they called him to come sooner - but Jesus delayed. Hhhhhm. Why not come after Lazarus was dead 1 day. or 2. But, because he waited until the fourth day - the miracle of his resurrection and Christ's power over death was obvious to all. 