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Post by yardstick on Jul 28, 2017 0:24:36 GMT -6
I noticed on the online sky software that it tells you in the text in the window what constellation it is in. Idk if stellarium does that, but I wouldnt be surprised if it does. I just checked using the sky website and it leaves Taurus' 'area' of space somewhere around on Oct 19, 2017. Entering Eridani? Does anyone know the Biblical significance of that Constellation? I found some information about the mythology. Looks like its connected with Babylon, Egypt, Greece, and Rome...
According to one theory, the Greek constellation takes its name from the Babylonian constellation known as the Star of Eridu (MUL.NUN.KI). Eridu was an ancient city in the extreme south of Babylonia; situated in the marshy regions it was held sacred to the god Enki-Ea who ruled the cosmic domain of the Abyss - a mythical conception of the fresh-water reservoir below the Earth's surface.
Eridanus is connected to the myth of Phaethon, who took over the reins of his father Helios' sky chariot (i.e., the Sun), but didn't have the strength to control it and so veered wildly in different directions, scorching both Earth and heaven. Zeus intervened by striking Phaethon dead with a thunderbolt and casting him to Earth. The constellation was supposed to be the path Phaethon drove along; in later times, it was considered a path of souls. Since Eridanos was also a Greek name for the Po (Latin Padus), in which the burning body of Phaethon is said by Ovid to have extinguished, the mythic geography of the celestial and earthly Eridanus is complex.
Another association with Eridanus is a series of rivers all around the world. First conflated with the Nile River in Egypt, the constellation was also identified with the Po River in Italy. The stars of the modern constellation Fornax were formerly a part of Eridanus.
Source: "Eridanus (Constellation)," Wikipedia, 22 June 2017, en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eridanus_%28constellation%29
Epsilon Eridani has been known to astronomers since at least the 2nd century AD, when Claudius Ptolemy (a Greek astronomer from Alexandria, Egypt) included it in his catalogue of more than a thousand stars. The catalogue was published as part of his astronomical treatise the Almagest. The constellation Eridanus was named by Ptolemy (Ancient Greek: Ποταμού, English: River), and Epsilon Eridani was listed as its thirteenth star. Ptolemy called Epsilon Eridani ό τών δ προηγούμενος, Greek for a foregoing of the four (here δ is the number four). This refers to a group of four stars in Eridanus: γ, π, δ and ε (10th–13th in Ptolemy's list). ε is the most western of these, and thus the first of the four in the apparent daily motion of the sky from east to west. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epsilon_EridaniEpsilon Eridani was included in several star catalogues of medieval Islamic astronomical treatises, which were based on Ptolemy's catalogue: in Al- Sufi's Book of Fixed Stars, published in 964... en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_of_Fixed_StarsBeta Eridani is the star's Bayer designation. It has the traditional name Cursa[4][7] derived from Al Kursiyy al Jauzah, " the Chair (or "Footstool") of the Central One". en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beta_Eridani... Zeta Eridani...It bore the traditional name of Zibal. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zeta_Eridaniwww.constellationsofwords.com/stars/Zibal.htmlWith eta (η Azha), rho (ρ), and sigma (ς) Eridanus, it was the Arabic "Ostrich's Nest" or "Hatching Place". www.constellationsofwords.com/Constellations/Eridanus.html
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Post by watchmanjim on Jul 28, 2017 0:30:26 GMT -6
Cursa? Well, just a cursory examination of that name makes my cursor shiver. It doesn't happen to be at the constellation's right hand, does it?
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Post by yardstick on Jul 28, 2017 8:11:59 GMT -6
Cursa? Well, just a cursory examination of that name makes my cursor shiver. It doesn't happen to be at the constellation's right hand, does it? It is the upper left most star in the constellation. The 'source' or beginning point of the 'river'. Beta Eridani's name means 'footstool'; and it is the brightest star closest to (but above) Orion's foot.
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Post by socalexile on Jul 28, 2017 8:24:12 GMT -6
I hear Orion being thrown around. Have you guys factored in a possibility that the Orion Nebula having something to do with this? Look at it:
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Post by cwood85 on Jul 28, 2017 13:24:14 GMT -6
Can I make a suggestion/offer to help? I am not trying to boast by any means, but I am really really good at looking at photographs & pictures and seeing/finding details. Being diagnosed with a pretty good case of ADHD, there is visual testing that is done with the IQ testing that goes along with diagnosis and my visual intelligence is in the top 10%. If you need details/patterns found in something, I will see it and quickly. I am a professional photographer (recently retiring) as well with advanced Photoshop and digital image processing skills. I also have a large (24") HD computer screen as well. Just putting that out there if you guys ever need help looking through photographs/pictures or even breaking them down into layers and etc.
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Post by yardstick on Jul 28, 2017 15:45:04 GMT -6
Can I make a suggestion/offer to help? I am not trying to boast by any means, but I am really really good at looking at photographs & pictures and seeing/finding details. Being diagnosed with a pretty good case of ADHD, there is visual testing that is done with the IQ testing that goes along with diagnosis and my visual intelligence is in the top 10%. If you need details/patterns found in something, I will see it and quickly. I am a professional photographer (recently retiring) as well with advanced Photoshop and digital image processing skills. I also have a large (24") HD computer screen as well. Just putting that out there if you guys ever need help looking through photographs/pictures or even breaking them down into layers and etc. I was just thinking while looking at the pictures that it would take someone who has a better sense of seeing things in them than I have to be able to pick those things out. I never would have seen the images in the nebula if they hadnt been sketched in or pointed out with an arrow.
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Post by cwood85 on Jul 28, 2017 16:53:50 GMT -6
Is there a way to send me a full resolution or large format of this photograph? I have an idea. There is a lot of "interstellar dust" in the picture. I can possibly clear some of it up.
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Post by cwood85 on Jul 28, 2017 16:54:49 GMT -6
Can I make a suggestion/offer to help? I am not trying to boast by any means, but I am really really good at looking at photographs & pictures and seeing/finding details. Being diagnosed with a pretty good case of ADHD, there is visual testing that is done with the IQ testing that goes along with diagnosis and my visual intelligence is in the top 10%. If you need details/patterns found in something, I will see it and quickly. I am a professional photographer (recently retiring) as well with advanced Photoshop and digital image processing skills. I also have a large (24") HD computer screen as well. Just putting that out there if you guys ever need help looking through photographs/pictures or even breaking them down into layers and etc. I was just thinking while looking at the pictures that it would take someone who has a better sense of seeing things in them than I have to be able to pick those things out. I never would have seen the images in the nebula if they hadnt been sketched in or pointed out with an arrow. Awesome! Just let me know God is good and answers our prayers!
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Post by yardstick on Jul 28, 2017 17:47:17 GMT -6
Here is what I found about Cetus: www.constellationsofwords.com/Constellations/Cetus.html"Cetus, the whale, or Sea Monster, has been identified, at least since Aratos' day (3rd century B.C.), with the fabled creature sent by Neptune (Poseidon) to devour Andromeda, but turned to stone at the sight of the Medusa's head (Algol) in the hand of Perseus. " The Kraken! The beast from the sea (assuming more than one meaning to the passage)? biblehub.com/revelation/13-1.htm
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Post by yardstick on Jul 28, 2017 18:29:03 GMT -6
Holy Ka-shmoley! Look at what I found about Orion: "...we find in the various versions of the Book of Job and Amos the word Orion for the original Hebrew word Kesil, literally signifying " Foolish," " Impious," " Inconstant," or " Self-confident."...This perhaps is etymologically connected with Kislev, the name for the ninth month of the Hebrew calendar, the tempestuous November-December...The Kesilim of Isaiah xiii, 10, rendered "constellations" in some versions, is also thought to refer to it and other prominent sky figures; in fact, Cheyne translates the word as "the Orions" in the Polychrome Bible; while Rahab, in the Revised Version of the Book of Job, ix, 13, — the "proud helpers" in the Authorized, — is referred by Ewald, Renan, and others to this, — possibly to some other group of stars, — with the same significations as those of Kesil, or perhaps " Arrogance," " Rebellion," " Strength," or " Violence..." "...Later on the Jews called Orion Gibbor, the Giant, considered as Nimrod bound to the sky for rebellion against Jehovah, whence perhaps came the Bands, or Bonds, of Orion, which some say should be Cords, or a Girdle; but the conception of Nimrod as "the mighty Hunter before the Lord," at least in the ordinary sense of that word, is erroneous, for the original, according to universal Eastern tradition, signifies a Lurking Enemy, or a Hunter of men rather than of beasts. This idea may have led to a Latin title, Venator, for the stellar Orion..." "...The discordance between the various renderings would indicate the probable correctness of these comments, and that we are in no respect assured as to the identification of Bible star-names. Yet it is worth noting that the three constellations adopted by the translators of the Book of Job and of Amos in the Revised Version fitly represent the cardinal points of the sky: the Bear in the north, Orion in the south, and the Pleiades rising and setting in the east and west..." "...The celestial equator now passes through the Belt, but was 12° below it 4000 years ago." www.constellationsofwords.com/Constellations/Orion.htmlSee the 'river' below the lion? That's Eridanus! If the Lion is bleeding out (if the tail were the blood flowing), then Eridanus is a river of blood?The "Hunter" - See Gen 10:9, speaking of Nimrod - a 'type' of AC "... Fortis and Fortissimus, were Roman titles for Orion [Allen, Star Names] and these words are related to the Germanic word for mountain, berg, from the Indo-European root *bhergh-2 'High; with derivatives referring to hills and hill-forts'. Derivatives: barrow² (a large mound of earth above a prehistoric tomb, from Old English beorg, hill), iceberg, borough, burg, (these words from Old English burg, burh, byrig, fortified town), bourg, bourgeois, burgess, burglar, faubourg, ( these words from Late Latin burgus, fortified place), borough, burgher, Burgundy, force, fort, fortalice, forte1, forte2, fortis, fortissimo, fortitude, fortress, comfort, effort, enforce, fortify, pianoforte, reinforce, ( these words from Latin fortis, strong)..." What was it about the AC? Daniel 11:38 - "But instead he will honor a god of fortresses, a god whom his fathers did not know; he will honor him with gold, silver, costly stones and treasures." When looking at the picture below, (which appears to have been reversed- left to right- from how the sky actually is) doesn't it look like Orion is fighting Taurus? And the Stream Eridanus is between them? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Orion_constellation_Hevelius.jpg Several of the explanations of Orion's birth are related to Orion coming out of the ground after 9 months of 'gestation'. September 23, 2017 to June 19, 2018 (from the comet data) is 9 months. The comet arrives in Orion on June 19, 2018. 9 months to become the world leader?"...Orion had a number of titles signifying the word 'giant': The Jews called Orion Gibbor, the Giant. "The Syrians knew Orion as Gabbara; the Arabians as Al Jabbar, both signifying 'the Giant', Gigas, giant, Greek title for Orion with Ptolemy, — and in Latin days occasionally Gigas...Our words giant and gigantic, and the word giga- (prefix meaning a billion) come from Latin gagas, Greek gigas. Orion is referred to as 'earthborn' (Rev 13:11) ... In Greek mythology the gigantes were (according to the poet Hesiod) the children of Uranos and Gaea ... www.constellationsofwords.com/Constellations/Orion.html"...Orion was resurrected by Asclepius the God of Healing, whom we see in the sky as Ophiuchus..." Could Asclepius represent the false prophet? "...Sir John Herschel observed from southern latitudes that the inverted view of the constellation well represents a human figure; the stars that we imagine the shoulders appearing for the knees, Rigel forming the head, and Cursa of Eridanus, one of the shoulders..." - If this is the case, and Rigel is the head, a head wound bleeds a lot... Eridanus...1. The star Rigel, beta Orion, on Orion's heel, is where the Eridanus river arises. From the Alfonsine Tables of 1521: " Lucida que est in pede sinistro: et est communis ei et aquae: et dicitur Algebar nominatur etiam Rigel." (The bright star on his left foot ' talks/connected' to the river, so what was called Algebar is called Rigel - I think this a close translation) - It is Orion's left heel which is raised/stung by Scorpio
- 'Sinister' used to refer, lexicographically, to the left side! Example: a "Bar Sinister" was a line that went from the top left side of a knight's shield to the bottom right. Some consider the left side to be the evil side.
- The left side of Orion's face is not visible to us ! One might make an hypothesis, that if the AC has a stroke, it will affect his left side!
"...The 10th century Persian astronomical writer Al Sufi gave the earlier popular name Ra'i al Jauzah, the Herdsman of the Jauzah (i.e. this star beta β, Rigel, is the Herdsman), whose camels were the stars alpha (α Betelgeuse), gamma (γ Bellatrix), delta (δ Mintaka), and kappa (κ Saiph); and Al Najid, the Conqueror, which also was given to alpha (α Betelgeuse) and gamma (γ Bellatrix)..." - The Adversary (satan) is referred to in Scripture as a shepherd of sorts, right? and Camels are considered unclean...
- The Conqueror on the white horse from Revelation's first seal judgement?
- Where in the analysis of the comet does the comet first begin a retrograde? Around Bellatrix! (the left 'hand/shoulder' of Orion) on or about Jun 19, 2018
- Betelgeuse is Orion's 'right hand/shoulder'. If The comet is retrograding around either Betelgeuse or Bellatrix - 9/20/18, 9/13/19, 10/15/20, 10/8/21 - Could these be where the AC 'wars' against the saints and witnesses
2. "Alpha (α) Orion, Betelgeuze (Betelgeuse), is an orange or "ruddy" star marking the right armpit or shoulder of the Hunter, or Giant..."
A Giant! (nephilim reference?)
"The title Mirzam, from Al Murzim, the Roarer, or perhaps the Announcer, originally used for gamma (γ Bellatrix), also is applied to this as heralding the rising of its companions."
"Titles expressing ideas of war and carnage... were applied to it. ipsa tendit ad rapinam quae appropinquat ad terram. This tendit ad rapinam, also used for the star Antares. [Star Names, Their Lore and Meaning, Richard Hinckley Allen, 1889]."
www.constellationsofwords.com/stars/Betelgeuse.html
3. "Bellatrix, the Female Warrior, the Amazon Star, is from the translation, rather freely made in the Alfonsine Tables, of its Arabic title, Al Najid, the Conqueror... the Roaring Conqueror, or, according to the 17th century English orientalist Thomas Hyde, the Conquering Lion heralding his presence by his roar, as if this star were announcing the immediate rising of the still more brilliant Rigel..." (Rev 6:2, Dan 7:11) Left arm is covered up by the lion, Confirms the left side of Orion is not visible/is disfigured? - stroke? Catastrophic auto accident/war wound disfigurement? www.constellationsofwords.com/stars/Bellatrix.html
4. Meissa - Orion's 'head'
- There are a lot of words relating the stars here to "moon divinity" things. I read it as similar moon references that go with Islam's origin
- "...the German Sanskrit scholar Weber mentioned Andhaka, Blind..."
- "In China these stars were Si ma ts'ien, the Head of the Tiger." - see the board discussion about the kings of the east and the Tiger reference...
- There is also a reference to a 'jugular' - decapitation?
- "...Al Tahayi..." - get this: "...Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is an Iranian politician who was the sixth President of Iran from 2005 to ... Succeeded by, Seyyed Hamid Tahayi ...
5. The Lion's Hide (or shield) Orion is holding. Could be a lion hide covering a wood shield.
Pi3 Orionis is the brightest star in the lion's hide (or shield) that Orion is holding. It is the third star in the curve from the top, and the brightest of the 6 stars that make up the 'lion' or 'shield'. It is called "Tabit". en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pi3_Orionis
Pi3 (π3) Orion, Tabit, is the northern star in the Hunter, one of a number of pi stars on the skin that is held in his left hand that he is showing off as a trophy.
www.constellationsofwords.com/stars/Tabit.html
Whew! wow!
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Post by socalexile on Jul 29, 2017 0:50:15 GMT -6
I posted a huge response to this that could have really hijacked this thread, so I posted it over here. Please take a look at it, I want to know what you guys think.
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Post by whatif on Jul 31, 2017 15:30:19 GMT -6
Look at what I found about Orion: Wow! Fascinating finds, yardstick! Amazing!
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Post by yardstick on Jul 31, 2017 18:47:40 GMT -6
Here is what I found about Cetus: www.constellationsofwords.com/Constellations/Cetus.html"Cetus, the whale, or Sea Monster, has been identified, at least since Aratos' day (3rd century B.C.), with the fabled creature sent by Neptune (Poseidon) to devour Andromeda, but turned to stone at the sight of the Medusa's head (Algol) in the hand of Perseus. " The Kraken! The beast from the sea (assuming more than one meaning to the passage)? biblehub.com/revelation/13-1.htmIf this is a confirming Hypothesis, the approximate dates that the comet goes into Cetus are May 5, 2017 - Pisces to Constellation Cetus
December 17, 2017 - Eridani to Cetus
The approximate dates the comet comes out of Cetus are: July 8, 2017 - passes from Constellation Cetus to Constellation Taurus March 2, 2018 - Cetus to Taurus Do we know of any political figure or major geopolitical movement coming out of the general population (the sea often represents peoples, languages and cultures) that occurred on or about May 5 or July 8 this year? Read more: unsealed.boards.net/thread/496/conception-comet-deux-2017?page=2#ixzz4oSZczgMB
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