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Post by watchmanjim on Aug 4, 2017 2:08:53 GMT -6
There's also the possibility of cloudy skies and the moon is not visible when the witnesses go out to look for it. . . . "NOKTDOTH" so it could be the 24th, or etc.
I'm also looking at the possibility of the rapture occurring at the eclipse. I've got my reasons, but not sure I want to post them publicly.
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Post by yardstick on Aug 4, 2017 13:01:25 GMT -6
Why is that kjs? I kicking around an idea and it can only be tested out by knowing when the child is born/birthed. I can run it as of 9/23, but I have been wanting to know of any other possible dates and 'why' they are being given as an option. I'm not into all the astronomy stuff, so I'm blind and valid info from outside my understanding. Would you be willing to explain 9/9 option? I have a spreadsheet with significant dates labeled and a distribution curve (histogram) plotted. I'll post the updated version tomorrow. I need to add full moons to the calendar. Incidentally, here is the moon visibility on Sept 21-24 from Jerusalem: www.moongiant.com/phase/09/21/2017Make sure your computer time is set to Jerusalem Time, or you will get a false reading from this site. Here is the updated spreadsheet. I believe there is an older version already on the forum here, so this revision supercedes that one. distribution.xls (52.5 KB) |
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Post by kjs on Aug 4, 2017 14:17:03 GMT -6
There's also the possibility of cloudy skies and the moon is not visible when the witnesses go out to look for it. . . . "NOKTDOTH" so it could be the 24th, or etc. I'm also looking at the possibility of the rapture occurring at the eclipse. I've got my reasons, but not sure I want to post them publicly. I could be wrong, but my understanding is IF -- it is not seen the first day -- it automatically becomes the next day.... So Like this year it is 9/21 and 9/22 If however it is not seen on 9/21 Then the holiday becomes 9/22 and 9/23 I do not think if it is not seen on 9/22 -- it is shifted again.... |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2017 15:47:27 GMT -6
No it starts the sunset of the 21. Why do we think that our human eyes determine when God's holy feasts happen? It begins on the sunset of the 21st and ends on the sunset of the 23rd. Simple.
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Post by whatif on Aug 5, 2017 0:37:25 GMT -6
I'm also looking at the possibility of the rapture occurring at the eclipse. I've got my reasons, but not sure I want to post them publicly. How I would love the rapture to happen earlier than September, watchmanjim! May it be so, Lord Jesus! |
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Post by kjs on Aug 5, 2017 8:13:28 GMT -6
No it starts the sunset of the 21. Why do we think that our human eyes determine when God's holy feasts happen? It begins on the sunset of the 21st and ends on the sunset of the 23rd. Simple. Because that is how in reads in the bible (and the reason the entire Feast Day is known as the No One Knows the day or hour). The rule is if two witnesses do not see the moon on the first night it (Feast Day) get's transfer to the second day...... Who the two witnesses are - I have no clue because they have not kept that portion in many years. |
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Post by Gary on Aug 5, 2017 10:42:56 GMT -6
I've been looking at old depictions of Virgo and they are all in pretty close agreement. Sumerian/Greek/Roman artwork is very similarly arranged as you see in Stellarium. The head and legs are in the same place, so 9/9-9/24 is a pretty good range for when Jupiter really does exit the womb.
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Post by kjs on Aug 6, 2017 7:39:18 GMT -6
As we all know, there are no lines in space - so while Jupiter technically exits our imaginary lines on The ninth and we have that strange passage in Is. That birth happens before Labor ... There is nothing solid suggesting the ninth.
Many of the previous predictions (like 88 Reasons) call for it to occur on Feast Day and Feast of trumpets appear to align the best for that Slot. Plus Scottie has all his graphics pointing toward the Feast of Trumpets as the next Feast to be fulfilled..... So my assumption is that is the time period.
If we assume, Paul's phrase "at the Last Trump" is correct - then the Last blast of the trumpet on the Feast of Trumpets would make sunset of the 22nd the ideal candidate (if the moon was sighted on 21st) - or Sunset of the 23rd if moon was not seen on 21st.
Now many proclaim that the Rapture will be like a thief in the night..... But Paul clearly states we are children of the light, so we should not be caught unawares.
So, right now I would say it will happen at the start of the 23rd day or the start of the 24th day - depending on when the moon was seen.
Remember Jewish Days start at Sunset of the previous day. Most likely we are talking Jeruselum time ... So all of us in the States are looking at the 22nd or 23rd......
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Post by brad on Aug 6, 2017 8:58:25 GMT -6
With you on sunset the 22nd kjs! But I too would not be disappointed if it's sooner or later...Come!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2017 9:22:17 GMT -6
I've been looking at old depictions of Virgo and they are all in pretty close agreement. Sumerian/Greek/Roman artwork is very similarly arranged as you see in Stellarium. The head and legs are in the same place, so 9/9-9/24 is a pretty good range for when Jupiter really does exit the womb. Me too, Gary....you might find this link of interest. Click on the Carte 1.1 and 1.2 on the left menu, and you can see the original stick figures first portrayed in Western literature by Alexandre Ruelle in the 1700's......Leo has 9 main stars. Virgo includes theta virginis and kappa virginis as well...... It turns out that another Frenchman Charles Dien popularized the stick figures, which are widely used today. The stick figures are more objective in my view than drawings..... teca.bncf.firenze.sbn.it/ImageViewer/servlet/ImageViewer?idr=BNCF0003496023Shalom! |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2017 15:00:43 GMT -6
Actually I stand corrected.....his stick figure includes but does not name kappa virginis in Virgo although included, but does name and include theta virginis, which makes a difference as to the observed date when Zedek entered Virgo....with theta virginis, it entered on 12/17/2016, without theta virginis it entered in November.
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Post by watchmanjim on Aug 6, 2017 19:47:02 GMT -6
Some were saying Jupiter entered on Dec. 23.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2017 20:19:29 GMT -6
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Post by watchmanjim on Aug 6, 2017 20:50:05 GMT -6
I'm trying to remember. Not sure.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2017 20:57:48 GMT -6
23 December was the date of UNSC 2334....maybe that was it, but Zedek was already well within Virgo past the line. There are no lines in the heavens, but they are the best we have been given! If Theta Virginis is included in the stick figure we all are relying upon, then Zedek entered Virgo on either 17 or 18 December....18 December was the date that Amona was uprooted, right on the mark, followed within the week by UNSC 2334, 9 months exactly prior the sign of the Woman in Labor. The French peace initiative was on January 15th, exactly 9 months prior to Zedek leaving Virgo on 15 October seen below: www.dropbox.com/s/5kl20v1gbqibt6b/2017-07-04%20%281%29.png?dl=0www.dropbox.com/s/tqorij54wuiodaf/2017-01-23%20%281%29.png?dl=0Which is why I am interested in the criteria others would use for 23 December, unless it is because of UNSC 2334, not represented necessarily by the Celestial alignments |
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