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Post by tiffanybw on Aug 13, 2017 13:13:34 GMT -6
Maybe the US (or what follows) is in prophecy? Remember that in Daniel, beasts represent human dominions/empires. The A/C is the little horn in Daniel 7:8-11 IMO, and may be the head speaking blasphemies in Rev 13:5-8. I think it is definitely possible. I've always thought in human terms about the beasts in Revelation (maybe because of the Left Behind series; who knows). Kind of like I expected that the beast(s) would be individuals, not nations. Especially the verse you have highlighted, I always took that to mean a person whom would be killed and then come back to life, and that most likely that person would be the anti-Christ. The more I study though, the more I read, the more I pray... I think not (though I think no matter what, most important thing is not in declaring what will be, but in yielding to The Holy Spirit; goes for us now, and goes for whomever is present on earth for Tribulation). It could be that destruction is coming for the USA. I mean, it certainly looks like it. Just look at this past weekend and how we are headed for civil war (thank you media). Short version... groups like Black Lives Matter and Antifa are permitted to run rampant, do whatever they want, be violent (I got caught up in a BLM protest, long story, but it was terrifying), destroy buildings and everything else, start declaring "black only" when it come to everything. Then Antifa doing all the same stuff, riot, violence, destruction. The alt-left I guess is the best name to call all of it, representing everything that is wrong and calling it good (abortion; LGBTQWXYZ; if you are not white you are a person, if you are white though you are not; letting children, even babies, choose everything for themselves including things like asking your newborn child if you can pick them up or if allowed to touch them before you do; and not to push their gender on them but to let them pick... as if they even know or care at that age and just... entrusting a person who can't even cross the street by themselves without killing themselves to be able to decide that even though they have xy chromosome that they are xx, and vice versa; and the list goes on and on). And so yesterday, the alt-right, so sick of all of this and so most of them there, standing up to say ENOUGH. Not to get too far off track... but truth = a few extremists, racists, and plain evil people on BOTH sides of it. But most people, just caught up in the lie, in the deception, that the mainstream media (including FOX and all of them), is spinning. Why? Because the USA is quite literally THE LAST thing standing that prevents the OWG from taking control. And so... this (just listen to any news channel today in how they report things, how people were run into with a car and I was watching on tv, online looking, as it happened and this person who ran into the crowd was NOT "alt-right" but was part of Antifa, part of the people protesting that he crashed into and he did it because he was scared to death because they were mobbing him). (This was my experience also when I got stuck in the middle of a BLM protest. The thing that struck me most was that they were not going after police, were definitely not peacefully protesting. They were going after each other, they were slamming each other into my car, I was still and stuck in traffic because they had taken over the entire street. They were hateful, vicious, punching each other, and I could feel the evil, could feel... I don't know... the spirit of satan. And they were after EACH OTHER. Not me. Not the police. Each other.) Anyways, there are racist people who hate blacks mixed in with what happened yesterday, people who are pure evil. Then there are racist people against whites, extreme racism against whites talking about all white people need to be killed, so on, so forth. It's such a mess that no one understands what is going on, and so the average person turns to the news, and they are told this is a "white supremacist protest" instead of what is was, which was "Unite the Right" (no disagreement from me that some who were there at this event/march/protest/rally were indeed extreme racist people there and I am NO fan of David Duke; but not all the people there were like that and most people there on all sides of it... not racist), insinuate when reporting that the person who ran into the crowd is one of those white supremacists, and spin, spin, spin, that web of lies and so media tells about how wonderful Anitfa is, how wonderful BLM is... even though they are FAR FROM wonderful and that is obvious for anyone to see... all one has to do is go to youtube to see their 'wonderfulness' on display. Just, ugh! And I am on my knees praying for this country. Or that God will protect us whom are His at the least until He comes to get us out of here!
Add to that, North Korea. Add to that coming economic collapse and here's a video I think worth watching... I don't know that this man knows Jesus or not but many of his videos are good if you want to know what really is going on in the world. Here is the video: Add to that this eclipse, which is God's Final Warning (I believe it is anyways). We won't be like Nineveh though, won't happen, because of above. Heck, people think this coming eclipse is just yet another reason on their long list of reasons to party, get drunk, get high, celebrate because we are gods and it's the One True God whom we have decided we are "superior to", He's bowing down to us, putting on a show for us. So party, party, party! All those things added together EQUAL the end of the United States of America, whom is the head of the beast that is wounded unto death. Also, will be healed. I don't know exactly how. Not sure either exactly how we will die as a nation but one of those things listed up there WILL kill us. What I do know, it will be miraculous; our recovery, like a miracle. The USA will be so far gone, completely dead; brought to our knees and no longer the world power we currently are and have been for quite some time now. Anti-Christ (whomever that is) will come to "save" us, restore us, make it all better, make us "great" once again. And the world will marvel and follow the beast. The beast, is the world and the new system just as in the video I've posted above. And since there is no hiding money, no hiding anything; therefore no buying anything, no surviving unless you have the mark of the beast (which will genetically change you, literally you will have Satan's DNA, not for certain, but is what I believe anyway). People always say how the USA is not in the Bible at all, not in end times prophecy at all. I used to agree. Not anymore though. Oh, we are there! In addition, we are a major player. Edit: Yet another "in addition": The time is NOW. I was reading Matthew last night. One Book in the Bible. In that book alone, and I didn't even read the entirety of it, sign after sign after sign after sign was fulfilled. The text literally says it too, uses the word sign, and the word dream; communicates with those who believe in Him through dreams (to warn though, one must test, and one must be sure they are living completely in God's Will because satan is also capable of using dreams to deceive; just my opinion on it). Those signs INCLUDED signs in the heavens, the star that signified the birth of Messiah! This sign IN THE HEAVENS. As in, astronomy. As in... God does indeed use the heavens that He created for signs and for seasons. As I read, the convergence of so many signs. Just like now. Sign after sign after sign. Yet we have some of God's own Children calling it all evil, calling it astrology, rejecting it, proclaiming it of Satan and implying that whomever believes in all these signs are also of Satan. NO. No, no, no. Please church... WAKE UP!!! The time is NOW.
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Post by kjs on Aug 13, 2017 15:37:34 GMT -6
Tiffannbw
careful which news sources you use as reference....
Living in Va, and one of my co-pastors was actually at the event (think they are call clergy against violence)
40 some clergy marched pass the park in silent protest (i.e. No chanting, no yelling) These clergy were threaten with guns, were spit upon ... They finished their walk at a church were they attempted to have a worship service.
The church was surrounded by men with torches, and assault weapons threatening to burn the place down.....
Yes, There are extremes of both sides.... But I take my pastor's eyewitness account as being true....
As far as the driver who killed one and injured 19 others --- He is a twenty-something white male - part of the Alt-Right Group whose sponsored the original protest for the removal of a statue of Robert Lee..... And he is under arrest.
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Post by tiffanybw on Aug 13, 2017 16:34:24 GMT -6
Tiffannbw careful which news sources you use as reference.... Living in Va, and one of my co-pastors was actually at the event (think they are call clergy against violence) 40 some clergy marched pass the park in silent protest (i.e. No chanting, no yelling) These clergy were threaten with guns, were spit upon ... They finished their walk at a church were they attempted to have a worship service. The church was surrounded by men with torches, and assault weapons threatening to burn the place down..... Yes, There are extremes of both sides.... But I take my pastor's eyewitness account as being true.... As far as the driver who killed one and injured 19 others --- He is a twenty-something white male - part of the Alt-Right Group whose sponsored the original protest for the removal of a statue of Robert Lee..... And he is under arrest. I'm looking for it so I can post it, but I heard myself on FOX news this morning a man being interviewed, who stated that the person who rammed into the crowd of people was not part of the alt-right, and was there protesting with the very group he ran in to. And as I followed it yesterday on social media, twitter and the like (of which I don't have but is a good place to go if you want to see what is really happening as events unfold; and before the MSM puts their spin on it); and I saw myself that the man who rammed the crowd was not protesting with the "alt-right", the white supremacists (which I do not believe they were all white supremacists). Call them what you will, he was not part of that group. He was part of the group that was counter protesting yesterday. Here is this from Breitbart: www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/08/12/gov-mcauliffe-in-charlottesville-no-place-in-america-for-alt-right-refuses-to-condemn-antifa/My point is though, this is but one thing happening in this nation right now, and has been for a few years now, to bring about division, to bring about civil war. We hear nothing when it comes to what is considered to be the "alt-left". Nothing of all of their violence (think of the Milo Berkeley thing that happened), and their RIOTS and their VIOLENCE is defined by MSM as "peaceful protesting". What is happening with this though, with yesterday, the media and the powers that be are trying to lump together fundamentalist conservatives, people who are anti-abortion, people who do not agree with gay marriage, people who do not believe that one is born "genderless" and that men are in women's bodies and vice versa, people who believe in true equality for ALL, and most Christians are included in this group of people. They are taking that, and then people who truly are racist, white supremacist, nazi, etc... and they are trying to lump all together, so that when one says "alt right", or when one says "conservative", or when one says even... "Christian"... the first thing that comes to mind will be racism, the KKK, nazis, evil, and hate. It's been on my tv all day, the right being vilified and the left being praised. Were there racist people there yesterday? You bet there were. Those racist against blacks. And those racist against whites. Not "all" the people were though. Most were not. Trust ONLY The Holy Spirit, ONLY Jesus. I'll come back and edit if I can find more about the driver. But he was not not one of the alt-right protestors like the media is saying. Was he racist... maybe, I don't know. But I do know he does NOT represent me. My oldest two children are of mixed race (and biologically mine; me white; their biological father black). I am not a racist. But I do consider myself alt right, a fundamental conservative, a fundamental Christian. What you see happening now is VERY DANGEROUS. You see before you the media redefining the definition of alt right. And by the media's definition of alt right, I am not alt right. Yes, be VERY careful what and who you believe. And pray for this nation. Pray for this lost and fallen world. Edit: I have no doubt that your pastor is telling the truth. WHOM was doing this to him though? Which side? And... both sides... have racists in them. Not all ( on both sides of it) though, are racists. Edit: Read this that I will link below (caution.... language, violent pictures). This confirms what I was seeing yesterday on different social media sites as all was transpiring. It does look like that at first they thought the person who rammed the crowd was one person, then discovered later it wasn't that person; but the one that was arrested. If you read this you will also see where many witnesses there were stating that the reason this person rammed the crows was because he was being mobbed and was scared (at the link you will read it). I wasn't there in person. I could be wrong. A mess, anyway you look at it. Everyone at fault, any way you look at it. Point of my post wasn't really to get into all of that though and so I am sorry about that. It was to agree with social exile in how he sees that the USA could indeed be the head of the beast wounded unto death. And so I am sorry for bringing confusion into it by talking about this. freedomdaily.com/truth-terrorist-drove-charlottesville-riot-crowd-revealed-who-was-supposed-to-die/Edit again: Quote from above link.... "UPDATE: It appears the researchers at /pol/ were wrong. Joel Vangheluwe was not, in fact, the driver. James Alex Fields Jr., a 20-year-old from Maumee, Ohio is under arrest for driving the car into the crowd of Antifa members, a reporter from The Hill has confirmed.
Taylor Lorenz was live-streaming the event for the Hill when she was attacked by Antifa. She was punched and knocked to the ground. She is at the Charlottesville Police Department providing witness testimony. Lorenz said that several officers don’t believe Fields drove into the Antifa crowd to hurt anyone, but was scared because they had swarmed his car and were becoming violent. Fields was apparently trying to get away from them."Yes, originally it was thought that the driver was a guy named Joel Vangheluwe who is definitely an anti-Trump, Antifa person. It was his car originally, then he sold it to James Alex Fields, Jr. (the actual driver of the car who I don't think anyone knows if was part or not of any of the protests/demonstrators on any side and whom from what I've researched... looks like... but I don't know for sure... he was driving through and this is how he became caught up in it; it is possible he was a nazi and I have no idea... but just saying... it's really easy for the powers that be to "frame" a person, to make it look like anything they want it to). It is said by witnesses in the link above, they posted on their twitter, by police officers who were there and arrested the driver, and also by a reporter for The Hill by the name of Taylor Lorenz who was there, was herself pushed down by the anti-protestors, that in her opinion it looked like the driver was afraid because before he ran his car into the people his car was swarmed by the anti-protestors (the Antifa people). He was scared, so he hit the gas to get away. Not saying 100% that is what happened because I was not personally there. But I believe eye witnesses over any news outlet... FOX, CNN, NBC, CBS, ABC, you name it. Don't buy anything from any of them. Which is why I search out truth for myself. If one clicks on the link I posted there is more. Again, not saying what is at this link is undisputable truth, but I believe that before I do any MSM news, as I know the agenda of the MSM news. There is more than what I quoted, just go to the link.
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Post by kjs on Aug 13, 2017 17:27:59 GMT -6
James Alex Fields was the driver. He is photograph with the Vanguard group holding sign. The group protesting the removal of the statue.
Some reports indicate he considered himself a neo-nazi.....
If FOX is reporting something different then they get it wrong....
Have at least ten articles all saying basically the same thing (simple Google finds them)
One conservative paper, (lost the link - sorry that is iPad for you) says that he was part of the Alt-right and therefore should not be considered with the majority of the protestors....
Yes, there is bad on both sides .... Not saying there is not....
This fallen world is growing worse.... If Jesus does not come this year - I have trouble seeing this world last too much longer.
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Post by watchmanjim on Aug 13, 2017 20:00:04 GMT -6
One of the saddest things about all of this is when people don't understand what an honorable man Robert E. Lee and many of the southerners were at the time of the (so-called) Civil War, and how evil some of the northerners were, and how racist the majority in EVERY state was at the time. ABolitionists were a decided minority in most any state in those days, and those times are VERY poorly understood by people alive today.
Yes, slavery was wrong.
No, the Civil War was not fought primarily about slavery. It was an issue that was used against the south by the north.
Yes, I think the south's loss was God's way of punishing them for the evils of slavery.
No, I don't think that was the only reason He had them to lose. I think God wanted the union preserved even under evil men such as the wartime and postwar Republicans.
Yes, America has a lot of corruption and evil to answer for, going all the way back to the Revolution and beyond.
America never was a fully righteous nation. Many of its founding principles were great. Unfortunately, its people failed to govern themselves wisely, and conduct themselves righteously. It started in colonial days, and has come to a head now.
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Post by whatif on Aug 13, 2017 21:47:14 GMT -6
Well said, watchmanjim!
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Post by watchmanjim on Aug 14, 2017 9:27:42 GMT -6
This is an eye-witness account from a friend-of-a-friend. Since I do not know this man, I do not know his exact political beliefs, but this is what he has to say about the events at the rally. He was on the "defending-the-Confederate-statues" side, which does NOT automatically make him a Nazi, a racist, or an anarchist. He does not state his beliefs on these topics.
From "Jacob:"
You want it straight? Here it is: + In response to the incessant attacks upon our heritage by the left, a conservative blogger and concerned American, Jason Kessler resolves to organize a rally for traditionalists across the Conservative spectrum to stand shoulder to shoulder in defense of our identity and right to exist as a people group. + Kessler secures a permit for lawful assembly at Lee Park, site of a monument to Robert E. Lee. + In short order, the city attempts to revoke the permit, denying hundreds of disenfranchised Americans their rights to freedom of speech and assembly. + The ACLU and Rutherford Institute file an injunction against the city which is upheld by a Federal Judge. + Charlottesville Mayor and City Council acquiesce and the rally commences on the appointed day. + Nationalist Front members from League of the South and Traditionalist Worker Party among many others line up and March to Lee Park, literally having to fight our way through throngs of Antifa and BLM bussed in from New York screaming obscenities, attacking with clubs and pepper spraying people at every opportunity. + Heavily militarized police funnel us into the park as we are surrounded by still larger commie hordes. + Our guys form up in shield walls to defend the park while preparations are made for the scheduled speakers to address attendees of the event. Police stand by and watch as we are relentlessly bombarded with all manner of projectiles ranging from deadly to disgusting. Everything from balloons filled with bleach and pepper spray to bottles of feces and urine to rocks and bricks. Other leftists were menacing us with baseball bats, a homemade flame thrower and even a bow and arrow. + Our guys held the line rather well, even while having to defend themselves, but things start going downhill as 100 or so cops in full riot gear and heavy armor form up behind us while another cop starts bull horning us that rally has been declared an "unlawful assembly" and that anyone who does not disperse will be arrested. + Police continue to ignore the actually violent leftist terrorists 100 feet away and literally begin to forcefully shove us into the rabid throngs who've been violently assaulting us. Numerous of our guys are attacked as they try to evacuate the park. + Our guys begin regrouping into smaller parties after basically being scattered all over the place and working our way to a new rally point in the "free speech zone"/park the city had originally tried to move the rally to. + As we are fighting our way out of the park, and to the new rally point Antifa and BLM continue assaulting our guys with wild abandon. Even the older men who were with us. Despite this, we tightened our formation and worked our way through them. + By the time we make it to a safe zone, we start hearing the Mayor has declared a state of emergency. + Our guys gradually get shuttled out and things begin to calm down. Despite the chaos and confusion that ensued, some things are painfully obvious in all this: The mayor, city council and police forces are guilty of gross negligence in the performance of their duty and of consorting and colluding with violent, left wing extremists and terrorists. Not only were they clearly ordered to stand down in the face of rampant criminality, but they attempted to instigate a riot by shoving our group into the throngs of Antifa. They proceeded to allow Antifa to take over the park while pursuing our guys to the rally point and arresting several, even pursuing some of our guys to the parking garage and taunting and threatening them with arrest while allowing more Antifa to continue to attack. The time between our arrival in the park and the SOE declaration was about 40 minutes. Long story short: It was a set up folks. Plain and simple. We saw the police state up close and personal yesterday. And it wasn't at the hands of the people having "Nazi!!!" shrieked and hissed at them. It was at the hands of the self proclaimed arbiters of love and tolerance. This is what it looks like when freedom fails. And it ain't pretty. Stay tuned for my full writeup on this for American Free" Press."
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Post by watchmanjim on Aug 14, 2017 9:52:45 GMT -6
And I am very weary of people not able to understand that you could be pro-Confederate and not racist. Let me explain it this way. Basically, all the racist people out there, who are white, tend to support the idea of the Confederacy because they associate it with oppressing of non-whites. These legitimately evil people represent a very small sliver of American society--probably less than 5% of all white Americans. Many white people who are not racist, support the idea of the Confederacy (at least, as an entity of the past) because of several other reasons--they believe that the governments of the southern states were simply exercising their constitutional (and basic human) rights to exit the union in 1861 due to the abuse of these states by the majority population in the north, and that slavery was only one of many issues in the mix. Taxation (terrifs, etc.) and the misuse of the budget were key reasons the southern governments felt they should leave. They correctly understood that the union of states formed under the Constitution was voluntarily formed, and could be voluntarily dissolved. The white people who hold this view are probably at least 20% of the white people in the United States, if not more. If you combine this group (20%) with the 5% or so (probably less) of white people who are legitimately racist haters, you end up with maybe about 25% of the US white population who are pro-Confederacy, or at least pro-Confederate heritage. Unfortunately, all the news media has to do is go find a few of the really vocal members of the 5% to spout off their mouths and make a scene, and they can paint ALL white conservatives (probably about 60% of all white people in the USA) as neo-nazi racist bigot haters. And if some of the conservatives manage to break themselves free from that group, the liberal news media still latches onto all 25% or so of the people who are pro-Confederate and says we are ALL Nazis or whatever. I hope this helps people understand. I am one of the least racist people you will ever meet, but I am pro-Confederate heritage. On the other hand, I know that the south of that time period was not perfect. The North was not, either. They were comprised of sinful people in both areas. The government(s) and individuals did many sinful things. And there were many terrible people, and many Godly people, too, at that time. The way the Civil War was conducted was an embarrassment to the south and a horrible disgrace to the north. Today, heroes are called villains, and villains are called heroes. If you were to pick ten historical figures from that war, 5 from each side, at random, and study out their lives and deeds in great detail, you would find some really surprising things. Note: I pulled the percentages I used out of thin air by best guestimate: Statistics show that 90% of all statistics are made up on the spot.
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Post by tiffanybw on Aug 14, 2017 12:41:54 GMT -6
This is an eye-witness account from a friend-of-a-friend. Since I do not know this man, I do not know his exact political beliefs, but this is what he has to say about the events at the rally. He was on the "defending-the-Confederate-statues" side, which does NOT automatically make him a Nazi, a racist, or an anarchist. He does not state his beliefs on these topics. From "Jacob:" You want it straight? Here it is: + In response to the incessant attacks upon our heritage by the left, a conservative blogger and concerned American, Jason Kessler resolves to organize a rally for traditionalists across the Conservative spectrum to stand shoulder to shoulder in defense of our identity and right to exist as a people group. + Kessler secures a permit for lawful assembly at Lee Park, site of a monument to Robert E. Lee. + In short order, the city attempts to revoke the permit, denying hundreds of disenfranchised Americans their rights to freedom of speech and assembly. + The ACLU and Rutherford Institute file an injunction against the city which is upheld by a Federal Judge. + Charlottesville Mayor and City Council acquiesce and the rally commences on the appointed day. + Nationalist Front members from League of the South and Traditionalist Worker Party among many others line up and March to Lee Park, literally having to fight our way through throngs of Antifa and BLM bussed in from New York screaming obscenities, attacking with clubs and pepper spraying people at every opportunity. + Heavily militarized police funnel us into the park as we are surrounded by still larger commie hordes. + Our guys form up in shield walls to defend the park while preparations are made for the scheduled speakers to address attendees of the event. Police stand by and watch as we are relentlessly bombarded with all manner of projectiles ranging from deadly to disgusting. Everything from balloons filled with bleach and pepper spray to bottles of feces and urine to rocks and bricks. Other leftists were menacing us with baseball bats, a homemade flame thrower and even a bow and arrow. + Our guys held the line rather well, even while having to defend themselves, but things start going downhill as 100 or so cops in full riot gear and heavy armor form up behind us while another cop starts bull horning us that rally has been declared an "unlawful assembly" and that anyone who does not disperse will be arrested. + Police continue to ignore the actually violent leftist terrorists 100 feet away and literally begin to forcefully shove us into the rabid throngs who've been violently assaulting us. Numerous of our guys are attacked as they try to evacuate the park. + Our guys begin regrouping into smaller parties after basically being scattered all over the place and working our way to a new rally point in the "free speech zone"/park the city had originally tried to move the rally to. + As we are fighting our way out of the park, and to the new rally point Antifa and BLM continue assaulting our guys with wild abandon. Even the older men who were with us. Despite this, we tightened our formation and worked our way through them. + By the time we make it to a safe zone, we start hearing the Mayor has declared a state of emergency. + Our guys gradually get shuttled out and things begin to calm down. Despite the chaos and confusion that ensued, some things are painfully obvious in all this: The mayor, city council and police forces are guilty of gross negligence in the performance of their duty and of consorting and colluding with violent, left wing extremists and terrorists. Not only were they clearly ordered to stand down in the face of rampant criminality, but they attempted to instigate a riot by shoving our group into the throngs of Antifa. They proceeded to allow Antifa to take over the park while pursuing our guys to the rally point and arresting several, even pursuing some of our guys to the parking garage and taunting and threatening them with arrest while allowing more Antifa to continue to attack. The time between our arrival in the park and the SOE declaration was about 40 minutes. Long story short: It was a set up folks. Plain and simple. We saw the police state up close and personal yesterday. And it wasn't at the hands of the people having "Nazi!!!" shrieked and hissed at them. It was at the hands of the self proclaimed arbiters of love and tolerance. This is what it looks like when freedom fails. And it ain't pretty. Stay tuned for my full writeup on this for American Free" Press." Thank you so much for sharing this. As I read on twitter and this conspiracy site forum I go to (not GLP as that place is horrible), this forum I go to is not all Christian although there are some believers there. I'm not a member there but I read there because I've found it to be a very reliable source on current events/news. Anyways, everything I read correlates with what this man wrote above. I first read on twitter that police were ordered to stand down. And then, just like this account reads, they were ordered to push the "alt-right or whatever to call them" demonstrators straight into the other side. I believe this account above, also what I saw and read with my own eyes on social media and a forum, videos that were on youtube (don't know if still there or not, who knows). I believe it way more than anything to come out of the mouths of the MSM. What a horrible thing to have to go through. I'm not saying there were no people there who were racist against blacks. Anytime groups like the KKK hear of such things, you can bet they will descend upon it and for the WRONG reasons, because of their hate for other people. But this event was never originally started to be as a "white supremacist event" as the news portrayed it and labeled it from the very beginning. In regards to the guy who got arrested and who killed that woman, I don't know his intention or motive behind what he did. I do know though that I got caught up in a BLM protest in the state of MD where I live, not a large city but a small town. There was a teenage girl who was of mixed race (I think); she rammed into some older man's car, fell off her bike, was unconscious. When she came to, of course the police did not want her to leave, had already called for an ambulance. But the teenage girl was out and doing whatever she was without the knowledge of her parents. She refused to id herself, refused to go in the ambulance, wanted to leave (and the police would not let her out of concern for her safety and said if she wanted to leave, ok, but since she was a minor they needed to speak to her parents first). Well this girl, she went wild, yelling and screaming obscenities, kicking the police and trying to hit them, just went nuts. The police ended trying to put her to sit in the back of a police car because she was so out of control and they DIDN'T want to hurt her. There is video of the entire thing on youtube because the police were wearing the cameras they all wear now. Let me tell you, if that were my daughter, she would have been in DEEP TROUBLE. They police ended having to pepper spray her to get her in the car and to calm down. I think the parents smelled money, and our small town turns into a riot zone. I had NO IDEA at the time what was going on. I was just driving home from work, nice night, windows down. I saw far ahead police lights, thought nothing of it. Started to see more and more people and at that point I figured car accident or something. Then as I was driving, cars in front of and behind me, and we all just got stuck because seemed like it was out of nowhere this HUGE CROWD of people, people of ALL colors, descended upon us, covered the entire street. We unfortunate cars were just stuck there. I locked my doors, rolled up my windows. I wasn't scared until I got home, until after the fact. It was surreal. What I saw with my own eyes were people of all colors who were the BLM protestors, protesting the supposed injustice done to this teenage girl. Except they were not protesting. Same thing as described above that man's account, that is what they were doing. Throwing things, destroying things, fighting each other, literally people slammed into the side of my car and the other cars around me. And we could not go anywhere because there was no where to go unless you wanted to run over people and/or hit the cars behind you or in front of you. I FELT the hate in the air. Words can not adequately explain just how awful, violent, hateful, lawless, etc... that it was. The protestors, really rioters, didn't bother me or anyone in the cars. Mainly just hit the cars and because they were all fighting and slamming each other into the cars. It was beyond anything I've ever experienced before and it literally came out of NOWHERE. From quiet street, to a few people and seeing lights, to CHAOS; all within a matter of seconds. The police were present, lots of them, and they just stood there looking clueless as to what to do (not saying I blame them as if in their shoes I wouldn't of had a clue either). Again, I don't know the man who was driving the car and I was not at the rally. But just saying... I can see how it might happen that someone driving through in a car would become afraid and flip out, be in fear of their life. I wasn't during the incident and I think that is thanks to Jesus. After I got home, I was VERY shaken up, still am when I think back on it. I also know that the MSM and the powers that be... they do whatever they feel like doing so that all goes according to their narrative, which is 99.9% of the time, complete lies.
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Post by watchmanjim on Aug 15, 2017 0:15:15 GMT -6
Thanks for that perspective, Tiffany. These are very troubling times. So glad we have the Lord to guide us through all this.
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Post by yardstick on Aug 15, 2017 0:44:56 GMT -6
Maybe the US (or what follows) is in prophecy? Remember that in Daniel, beasts represent human dominions/empires. The A/C is the little horn in Daniel 7:8-11 IMO, and may be the head speaking blasphemies in Rev 13:5-8. Fits with the G7 - having 7 national governments, and 10 representatives (heads of government). See the 'Leaders' Section. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Group_of_SevenApparently, according to the article, the EU isn't a nation, and France gets two reps and the EU gets two reps. BTW, note the list of names as heads of government, and see if you do not see something interesting.
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Post by whatif on Aug 15, 2017 0:50:24 GMT -6
I'm seeing Italy as the 2017 chairman, yardstick! Is that what you mean?
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Post by yardstick on Aug 15, 2017 0:58:46 GMT -6
I'm seeing Italy as the 2017 chairman, yardstick! Is that what you mean? Justin TrudeauEmmanuel MacronÉdouard PhilippeAngela Merkel Paolo GentiloniShinzō AbeTheresa May Donald TrumpDonald TuskJean-Claude JunckerI believe there is a 'potential AC' list on the unsealed site?
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Post by whatif on Aug 15, 2017 1:15:44 GMT -6
Ahhh, yes indeed! Fascinating!
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Post by socalexile on Aug 15, 2017 1:16:22 GMT -6
I'm seeing Italy as the 2017 chairman, yardstick! Is that what you mean? Justin TrudeauEmmanuel MacronÉdouard PhilippeAngela Merkel Paolo GentiloniShinzō AbeTheresa May Donald TrumpDonald TuskJean-Claude JunckerI believe there is a 'potential AC' list on the unsealed site? So does any country there have a mortal wound that has been healed?
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