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Post by disciple4life on Oct 20, 2017 15:13:29 GMT -6
I'm back. I am a bit ashamed that I over-reacted. I'm sorry. I'm also sorry that maybe my perception of things led me to be more accusatory and less able to listen to you all. I do still have my concerns about the things I brought up though. Please pray for me and forgive me. Especially you disciple4life and yardstick . @silentknight , I appreciate what you said and was really excited when you called me a fellow soldier of the cross. I came back when I saw you came back and started a thread on Hearing God. I really want to understand this stuff. Hello, Welcome back, my brother. ;-) I said I valued your honesty, and I still do - even more so. You are forgiven my friend.
"Iron sharpens iron, and so one man sharpens the countenance of another." Proverbs 27:17.
Silent Knight and I talked by message and also by email. There was no animosity or ill-will between us, nor is there now, and his words have re-affirmed this. In the process of our dialogue, I came across too strong - even though SK didn't take offense -- others did. For that, I'm sorry. Please forgive me. I have said over and over that I believe we all have parts of the puzzle and no one has all of them - and that we all need each other, and it's in the process of dialogue that we learn and become better watchmen. It's OK to disagree. ;-) It's OK to push back and challenge others' theories. Sometimes, two lions who know each other can have a discussion, and to an otter, or golden retriever looking on - it's terrible carnage. To the Lions, it's checkers. ;-) It's precisely because of others seeing holes and flaws in views and positions I was taught - that I had to totally discard or make a 180 degree turn. I shared with Mike that even though I lean strongly one way, at the same time, I'm studying and exploring other views.
Maranatha, my fellow soldier of the cross.
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Post by linda on Oct 20, 2017 18:42:35 GMT -6
Welcome back, @cage! I was hoping you would come back.
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Post by mike on Oct 20, 2017 18:43:03 GMT -6
You know D4L as I grow in the Lord and in life (in general) I learn. I have noticed, looking back that many of the things I now understand (better) I realize that those things, "thorns" have been present in my life all along. My handling of those is what has changed. What once got my into rage, now causes me to say "this again" and my reaction is "God will handle". In fact that had been my take on everything lately. God is in control. It's so cliche, I hate it, but when you feel it on the inside and can rest in that FACT you experience peace.
Most of that wasn't directed at you, I went on a tangent. 🤔 What I wanted to say was in line with what you said about all us having a piece of the puzzle.
I have been into fitness most of my life so I understand kinesiology pretty well. I am going to purposely deprecate myself here for illustration purposes. When I look at myself as a body part I think "Mike is like a nose hair". Personally they are gross, and unsightly but guess what they serve a purpose. Filtering particles from entering the sinuses.
Now Paul said it way better 1Cor 12:21
"And the eye cannot say unto the hand, I have no need of thee: nor again the head to the feet, I have no need of you."
Now you are like a _____ and SK like a _____ and so on. While it is hard for me at times to understand what your position is on something cuz all I can do is filter the nostrils, I have come to a place where I say, "he's probably got a valid point in there somewhere, digest it for a while, study it out, ask God and other parts of the body for understanding..." Sometimes it works, other times I need to walk away and come back to it later. Earlier in life I wanted to figure everything out 5 minutes ago.
Now I realize the more I learn, the more I have no idea how much there is to learn. 😰
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Post by mike on Oct 20, 2017 19:26:40 GMT -6
One more thing, well two. SK sorry that this thread got completely detailed, but I know your heart.
Lifes trials have a way of making us who we are today and who will be tomorrow an onward... Well rather than me saying it, Peter says it better
1 Pet 4:12-13 beloved, think it not strange concerning the fiery trial which is to try you, as though some strange thing happened unto you: But rejoice, inasmuch as ye are partakers of Christ's sufferings; that, when his glory shall be revealed, ye may be glad also with exceeding joy.
Is it any surprise as we close in on the end of all things, the trials of my brothers & sisters are seemingly designed to drag us down? HE IS COMING! GET READY, GET READY, GET READY!
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