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Post by mike on Oct 31, 2017 6:26:30 GMT -6
socalexile - my discernment meter is broken too! Show me someone with perfect discernment not named Jesus (no not my Mexican friend "Hey-zues" either  ). I agree with you about Cicciolanti. Not everything he says is spot on, but some of it is (IMO). One of his messages was through the book of Jasher, I stopped watching. Other times he's very informative. So I glean what I can from him and others who are also completely fallible like me & you. Yeah we need to build on the foundation of the simple gospel message, (I am so grateful for you helping me with that! I often push Renee Roland on others as she makes it so simple.) but others have valid info to build upon that solid foundation.
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Post by claire on Oct 31, 2017 10:48:28 GMT -6
I agree with Mike about broken discernment and Steve Cioccolanti (can't spell his name right). I have yet to find any preacher/pastor/prophet/theologian/average joe who got everything right, so if we go by that, we basically write off everybody.  I am not a fan of Cioccolanti. I do watch his videos sometimes. Some of them really made me cringe. But some really do make sense. |
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Post by grandpaskitzo on Oct 31, 2017 10:56:51 GMT -6
Very good observations. I am still very curious as to exactly what caused the darkness (as well as the 3 days of darkness in Egypt in Moses' day). It could have been an outright miraculous event, or some other factor. I know most people here are still wary of Planet X/Nibiru, but I believe the truth of it is finally coming out with solid data and evidence. Here's a video of physicist Claudia Albers explaining how electromagnetism is the strong force and not gravity due to mass, and how this object is 'short-circuiting' the sun causing it to go dark. It explains the event of the sun being darkened during Christ's crucifixion and how the sun will be darkened in the latter days. I fully believe she is on to something with this, and that mainstream science is totally wrong on our model of the universe. |
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Post by mike on Oct 31, 2017 11:34:22 GMT -6
no time to watch the video now grandpaskitzo (love typing your name) but one question i have, maybe you know or know where to find this. Where is this planet X in relation to the sun? Is it still beyond Pluto, is it behind the sun, behind the sun at a distance further than Pluto or Neptune, is it headed towards the sun??? |
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Post by grandpaskitzo on Oct 31, 2017 11:54:34 GMT -6
The misconception that makes it so hard for people to understand is that it's not a planet, it's a 'stellar core' or a dying star, and so it comes right next to the sun and travels around our solar system. It's orbit is drastically different than planets. I believe the ancient mythology of a snake eating the sun causing the eclipse is exactly why they called it that, it snakes it's way around and comes right next to the sun, sucking its energy and thus short-circuiting it causing the sun to appear darkened.
Many researchers are now coming to this conclusion. I think it's the whole 'Nemesis system' coming through and the 'stellar core' is the thing that's tripping people up in their calculations. As well, our understanding of gravity is way off. If we look at the universe as electromagnetic in nature instead of gravity through mass, I believe we'll have a far easier understanding of what's happening. So many people are studying this right, but with the wrong perspective.
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Post by mike on Oct 31, 2017 12:16:39 GMT -6
wait so now i'm more confused...I'm ok with it not following the ecliptic or even "orbiting" like earth would which is basically an ellipse. But the way you say it it makes me think it has no set or predictable pattern. In other words it almost sounds like youre saying it comes and goes where ever it wants, random. Maybe I need to bust out crayons... Problem is my temptation to eat them |
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Post by grandpaskitzo on Oct 31, 2017 14:57:33 GMT -6
Honestly, I'm not too sure of this either. From my understanding it follows an normal ellipse orbit, but the speed changes making it hard to pinpoint. It helped me to think of it like those micro machine cars on the magnetic track and sometimes they would speed up / slow down depending on the connection to the electrical source.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2017 15:10:59 GMT -6
So.... not weighing in on the legitimacy of the objects existence, but - if the images that were in the video are real, then it showed the sun basically going dark. Wouldn't everyone notice that? I guess there was still a small chunk lit.
Also, if things are electro-magnetic - there can be skips and jumps. We've all had that experience playing with magnets. If the science is behind in understanding, the skips and jumps would appear unpredictable.
The other thing I am confused about is that she (in the video) had actual photographs of the object.
So - either our minds should be really blown right now or the video is fake. Wouldn't this be main stream news at this point?
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Post by grandpaskitzo on Oct 31, 2017 15:25:16 GMT -6
Certain wavelengths are being affected, and as well....Gna get conspiratorial here: there's a sun simulator in conjunction with chemtrails to block what is up there affecting our sun. It's not even conspiracy anymore though. The governments of the world are hiding it because they know it's God's judgement on the world. There is evidence through patents and other articles that governments across the world have put out explaining what they've done. I can try compile links to prove this if I have time. I know it sounds absurd and way a Sci-fi, but I truly believe it.
Just look at the 'sun's rays', they are angled now...which is impossible and never before happened.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2017 15:34:45 GMT -6
Just now on foxnews: "Astronomers have discovered a planet the size of Jupiter orbiting a star that’s only half the size of the sun — a celestial phenomenon that contradicts theories of planet formation." www.foxnews.com/science/2017/10/31/monster-planet-discovery-stuns-scientists.htmlseems like we see this every week. I think that sort of shows that we (scientist) don't really have a clue what is going on around them. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2017 15:38:20 GMT -6
Certain wavelengths are being affected, and as well....Gna get conspiratorial here: there's a sun simulator in conjunction with chemtrails to block what is up there affecting our sun. It's not even conspiracy anymore though. The governments of the world are hiding it because they know it's God's judgement on the world. There is evidence through patents and other articles that governments across the world have put out explaining what they've done. I can try compile links to prove this if I have time. I know it sounds absurd and way a Sci-fi, but I truly believe it. Just look at the 'sun's rays', they are angled now...which is impossible and never before happened. A sun simulator. You mean like a fake sun? Do you mean the scopes that are monitoring the sun are seeing a fake sun? Or we on earth are seeing a fake sun? Yeah, I'd definitely want to see some links for that. Is nothing off limits anymore? I mean - seriously, what is believable? And what is the point of the lies? Why not just tell everyone? I will say, the sun seems whiter than it did when I was young. I assumed that was just my eyes changing. |
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Post by sorrynotsorry on Oct 31, 2017 15:42:32 GMT -6
Certain wavelengths are being affected, and as well....Gna get conspiratorial here: there's a sun simulator in conjunction with chemtrails to block what is up there affecting our sun. It's not even conspiracy anymore though. The governments of the world are hiding it because they know it's God's judgement on the world. There is evidence through patents and other articles that governments across the world have put out explaining what they've done. I can try compile links to prove this if I have time. I know it sounds absurd and way a Sci-fi, but I truly believe it. Just look at the 'sun's rays', they are angled now...which is impossible and never before happened. Saying stuff like this makes you look so, so gullible. Have a nice night. Btw everyone, we will still be here on New Years, see u then |
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Post by grandpaskitzo on Oct 31, 2017 15:44:00 GMT -6
I'll make a new post for this when I get all the links together. Great questions by the way. Those are the things we need to be able to answer for a better understanding of this topic. And yes, the 'sun' is whiter.  Why lie about it? Cause the world wants to hide the truth, which would verify God's Word. Satan can't have that now can he. Haha |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2017 15:56:13 GMT -6
Certain wavelengths are being affected, and as well....Gna get conspiratorial here: there's a sun simulator in conjunction with chemtrails to block what is up there affecting our sun. It's not even conspiracy anymore though. The governments of the world are hiding it because they know it's God's judgement on the world. There is evidence through patents and other articles that governments across the world have put out explaining what they've done. I can try compile links to prove this if I have time. I know it sounds absurd and way a Sci-fi, but I truly believe it. Just look at the 'sun's rays', they are angled now...which is impossible and never before happened. Saying stuff like this makes you look so, so gullible. Have a nice night. Btw everyone, we will still be here on New Years, see u then Hey sorrynotsorry - haven't heard from you in awhile. You do realize that we can't make predictions about who will be here and who will not, right? I mean 8 people just died at an intersection in New York. I bet, they all thought they were going to be here on New Years. We are all gullible. It is just a matter of what we are gullible toward. (is that how to say that? gullible with?, gullible about? - I don't know, but you know what I mean.) We're all believing lies every day. Questions is, which lies am I believing? Which are you? |
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Post by sorrynotsorry on Oct 31, 2017 16:11:22 GMT -6
Saying stuff like this makes you look so, so gullible. Have a nice night. Btw everyone, we will still be here on New Years, see u then Hey sorrynotsorry - haven't heard from you in awhile. You do realize that we can't make predictions about who will be here and who will not, right? I mean 8 people just died at an intersection in New York. I bet, they all thought they were going to be here on New Years. We are all gullible. It is just a matter of what we are gullible toward. (is that how to say that? gullible with?, gullible about? - I don't know, but you know what I mean.) We're all believing lies every day. Questions is, which lies am I believing? Which are you? haha yes I am the one with the problem, not the guy who thinks someone replaced our sun with a fake sun. Well it was really remarkable how they faked it so good even the plants were still able to photosynthesize. And also I agree some of us might be dead, but we will still be here if you get my drift. |
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). I agree with you about Cicciolanti. Not everything he says is spot on, but some of it is (IMO). One of his messages was through the book of Jasher, I stopped watching. Other times he's very informative. So I glean what I can from him and others who are also completely fallible like me & you. Yeah we need to build on the foundation of the simple gospel message, (I am so grateful for you helping me with that! I often push Renee Roland on others as she makes it so simple.) but others have valid info to build upon that solid foundation. 
