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Post by mike on Aug 28, 2017 12:17:35 GMT -6
Thanks for the reply..i'm still not convinced though..I mean that's what being psychic is right?? To be able to see things before they happen..why would Jesus' return be any different? I think the truth is out there..just intertwined with misinformation.. I think i'm struggling with what it you need to or are looking to be convinced of? Are you saying that some psychic should be able to determine the date of Jesus return and/or rapture?
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Post by whatif on Aug 28, 2017 12:52:17 GMT -6
I'm still not convinced that "no man knoweth the hour" or however it goes..I mean 6000 years of human history..You mean to tell me there have been no instances of psychics, mediums, soothsayers etc.. Psychics, mediums and such would not know the time of his coming. (If they were truly "tapped into" the darkness, perhaps they would have similar knowledge as we do today as the enemy of our souls knows the Word as well or better.) Jesus in human form did not know the timing. I think he was pretty clear on no one knowing. Leading up to the verses below he explains signs that will provide us with clues as to the timing. As the time draws ever closer we have been able to identify His coming further by properly interpreting His word through His Spirit. I agree, mike! Well said!
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Post by yardstick on Aug 28, 2017 13:06:39 GMT -6
I'm still not convinced that "no man knoweth the hour" or however it goes..I mean 6000 years of human history..You mean to tell me there have been no instances of psychics, mediums, soothsayers etc.. You may find this informative: unsealed.boards.net/thread/668/knows-day-hour
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Post by whatif on Aug 28, 2017 13:06:48 GMT -6
Thanks for the reply..i'm still not convinced though..I mean that's what being psychic is right?? To be able to see things before they happen..why would Jesus' return be any different? I think the truth is out there..just intertwined with misinformation.. Good morning, IAOALGIV! The Bible warns us against participating in anything related to psychic knowledge, witchcraft, sorcery, astrology, summoning the dead, and so on. I do believe that much of what passes for psychic knowledge is simple deceit by people who make money on the fears and dreams and sorrowful hearts looking for help, while some is truly drawn from the spiritual world. Unfortunately, the spiritual world accessed by those who are psychics is the realm of the Enemy of Souls, who seeks to deceive the world. They may gain knowledge of a sort, but it comes from a very dark place and can mislead many. The Lord tells us to stay away from such things for our own good, and He gives us His Holy Spirit to fill us with His truth. The Holy Spirit leads us, teaches us, gives us peace in troubles, guards our hearts and minds and spirits. He is the one who shows us just how close the return of Jesus is and prepares us to meet Him in the air.
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Post by IAOALGIV on Aug 28, 2017 13:24:30 GMT -6
Thanks for the reply..i'm still not convinced though..I mean that's what being psychic is right?? To be able to see things before they happen..why would Jesus' return be any different? I think the truth is out there..just intertwined with misinformation.. I think i'm struggling with what it you need to or are looking to be convinced of? Are you saying that some psychic should be able to determine the date of Jesus return and/or rapture? Yes that's what i'm saying..
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Post by IAOALGIV on Aug 28, 2017 13:25:36 GMT -6
Thanks for the reply..i'm still not convinced though..I mean that's what being psychic is right?? To be able to see things before they happen..why would Jesus' return be any different? I think the truth is out there..just intertwined with misinformation.. Good morning, IAOALGIV! The Bible warns us against participating in anything related to psychic knowledge, witchcraft, sorcery, astrology, summoning the dead, and so on. I do believe that much of what passes for psychic knowledge is simple deceit by people who make money on the fears and dreams and sorrowful hearts looking for help, while some is truly drawn from the spiritual world. Unfortunately, the spiritual world accessed by those who are psychics is the realm of the Enemy of Souls, who seeks to deceive the world. They may gain knowledge of a sort, but it comes from a very dark place and can mislead many. The Lord tells us to stay away from such things for our own good, and He gives us His Holy Spirit to fill us with His truth. The Holy Spirit leads us, teaches us, gives us peace in troubles, guards our hearts and minds and spirits. He is the one who shows us just how close the return of Jesus is and prepares us to meet Him in the air. But do you think it's possible for psychics to foresee Jesus' birth/rapture?
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Post by whatif on Aug 28, 2017 13:39:20 GMT -6
I suspect that they will not be able to. I suspect the Enemy has some feel for when the time is nearing, but I think that he most likely does not know for sure when that moment will happen. Revelation 12 gives us indication that the Dragon is waiting to devour the male child (the church) as it is born, but that the child will be snatched up to God and be safe from the Dragon. So it seems like the Enemy may indeed have an awareness that the time is nearing.
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Post by whatif on Aug 28, 2017 13:44:13 GMT -6
Then again, if the Enemy has been listening into our conversations here and knows all the dates we've been speculating about--and if our speculations are correct (which we won't know until hindsight shows us)--perhaps he has a very good clue of the day and hour!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2017 13:51:22 GMT -6
Nothing is revealed unless God reveals it. He can reveal it to anyone or anything. Even stones (think palm sunday) and donkies (think balaam). We are to test every word and spirit we hear. I, for one, do not listen to, or engage in spirits that are not even claiming to be of God. I would encourage the seeking of God's word through prayer, scripture, and his body.
Revelation via mediums / psychics, etc. is just as likely to be deception as it is true and I would rather wait for God to reveal truth elsewhere than sup at that table. It is difficult enough to discern truth in our own heart and in the body.
So, IAOALGIV, although it is technically possible for some to have been revealed the truth - I encourage you to seek light and eat at the table that God has prepared for his people.
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Post by whatif on Aug 28, 2017 13:54:12 GMT -6
Well said, silentknight!
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Post by IAOALGIV on Aug 28, 2017 16:24:21 GMT -6
Very interesting stuff guys..
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Post by IAOALGIV on Oct 1, 2017 21:15:48 GMT -6
Now that the whole "September Scare" is done and gone..can we please now discuss the possibility of a Christmas Rapture?
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Post by whatif on Oct 2, 2017 11:19:45 GMT -6
What a wonderful Christmas present that would be, IAOALGIV!
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Post by mike on Oct 2, 2017 11:55:18 GMT -6
Now that the whole "September Scare" is done and gone..can we please now discuss the possibility of a Christmas Rapture? Absolutely! Many on the forum believe the rapture is tied to the Jewish feasts, yet some others do not. What is your hypothesis? EDIT - I see you posted some of it on the first page, but appears to me to be largely based on occult practices. Question... Why would God time up the removal of His body with a pagan practice? Not saying this isn't possible but what is your reasoning. Thanks
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Post by IAOALGIV on Oct 2, 2017 16:52:43 GMT -6
Now that the whole "September Scare" is done and gone..can we please now discuss the possibility of a Christmas Rapture? Absolutely! Many on the forum believe the rapture is tied to the Jewish feasts, yet some others do not. What is your hypothesis? EDIT - I see you posted some of it on the first page, but appears to me to be largely based on occult practices. Question... Why would God time up the removal of His body with a pagan practice? Not saying this isn't possible but what is your reasoning. Thanks Hey thanks for the reply..First I think it's important to remember the origin of the holiday. The Romans were paying homage to Satan (Just like all major civilizations before them did..Christmas is just a later rendition). All I'm saying is that..to me the best way to start the 7 year tribulation would be for it be on Satan's Holiday. The elite are under some sort of contractual agreement..meaning that they have to reveal what's going to happen to the public before it occurs. The Night Before (2015) is a great example of this..I think they know exactly to the date and time when the rapture is gonna happen.
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