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Post by mike on Dec 18, 2017 8:30:44 GMT -6
thanks for sharing paulwatchmandawson...I have to finish watching yet, but I always appreciate your videos. Please keep us posted when you add any new content!
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Post by tygreen on Dec 23, 2017 0:35:46 GMT -6
Since there is no prerequisite for the Rapture we can still see that the stage is being set for the beginning of the Tribulation. I believe that the Lord will catch us up before the tribulation begins based off of scripture. Rev 12:5 itself is one of those. As we study, pray and share our various theories on our departure, I’d like to point out that in regards to Rev 12:5, we’re in the boundary of the child (Jupiter) entering the throne room (Libra), but I believe when the child crosses between Zubenelgenubi ll and Zubenesschamali is more defined as entering the throne room. IMHO. This occurs on 12/24/17 11:30pm Jerusalem time. I’m still expecting the Lord to catch us up in 2017 yet if He doesn’t, the sign that He provided is still in full effect. So please don’t lose heart. We’re ready but this could be His Grace and Mercy extended to win more souls to complete the Fullness of the Gentile period. As long as the child is in the throne room, we should be ready, stay ready and continue to encourage others to get ready. Our Lord needs to return to find us working as we’re waiting. Look, I don’t want to be here either but we need to know this so some don’t fall away. So from 12/24/17 to 10/11/18 is the complete window which includes the retrograde of Jupiter in Libra. Interesting enough that the Feast of Trumpets 2018 begins on the evening of Sept 9, 2018 to the evening of Sept 11, 2018. Still within the window of Revelation 12:5 with the child in the throne room. The only movement in the heavens in Libra 1/7/18 at 5:04am Jupiter/ Mars conjunction. Not sure what it means. We’ve studied enough to know that the Revelation 12 Sign is legitimate. We understand what Jupiter represents and where the throne room is represented. Let’s keep watching, praying and working. I’ve been so encouraged by all of you. Don’t lose focus. Don’t lose hope. Keep your eyes open and your heart ready! Below are just notes. We believe it’s a Jubilee year which is also linked to the Rabbi Judah Ben Samuel prophecy. And the Revelation 12 Sign in which the man-child in moving into the throne room. U.N. Resolution passed on November 29, 1947. May 14, 2018 Isreal 70th Anniversary Not sure of the meaning of the movements (from Stellarium at the location of Jerusalem) but: 12/24/17 11:30 pm Jupiter enters Libra between Zubenelgenubi ll and Zubenesschamali 1/7/18 at 5:04am Jupiter/ Mars conjunction 3/9/18 in the evening at the beginning of Shabbat Parah Jupiter stops and begins retrograde. 5/30/18 crosses out of Libra (157 days) 7/9/18 comes out of retrograde (197 days)(Venus over Regulus in Leo) 8/20/18 crosses back into Libra (239 days) 10/11/18 crosses out of Libra while moon in in Libra (291 days) Retrograde beginning to end is 122 days. Passover 2018 March 30th thru April 7th. Shabbat Parah / שבת פרה Shabbat Parah ("Sabbath [of the] red heifer" שבת פרה) takes place on the Shabbat before Shabbat HaChodesh, in preparation for Passover. Numbers 19:1-22 describes the parah adumah ("red heifer") in the Jewish temple as part of the manner in which the kohanim and the Jewish people purified themselves so that they would be ready ("pure") to sacrifice the korban Pesach. Shabbat Parah begins at sundown on Fri, 09 March 2018.
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Post by disciple4life on Dec 23, 2017 4:00:47 GMT -6
Since there is no prerequisite for the Rapture we can still see that the stage is being set for the beginning of the Tribulation. I believe that the Lord will catch us up before the tribulation begins based off of scripture. Rev 12:5 itself is one of those. As we study, pray and share our various theories on our departure, I’d like to point out that in regards to Rev 12:5, we’re in the boundary of the child (Jupiter) entering the throne room (Libra), but I believe when the child crosses between Zubenelgenubi ll and Zubenesschamali is more defined as entering the throne room. IMHO. This occurs on 12/24/17 11:30pm Jerusalem time. I’m still expecting the Lord to catch us up in 2017 yet if He doesn’t, the sign that He provided is still in full effect. So please don’t lose heart. We’re ready but this could be His Grace and Mercy extended to win more souls to complete the Fullness of the Gentile period. As long as the child is in the throne room, we should be ready, stay ready and continue to encourage others to get ready. Our Lord needs to return to find us working as we’re waiting. Look, I don’t want to be here either but we need to know this so some don’t fall away. So from 12/24/17 to 10/11/18 is the complete window which includes the retrograde of Jupiter in Libra. Interesting enough that the Feast of Trumpets 2018 begins on the evening of Sept 9, 2018 to the evening of Sept 11, 2018. Still within the window of Revelation 12:5 with the child in the throne room. The only movement in the heavens in Libra 1/7/18 at 5:04am Jupiter/ Mars conjunction. Not sure what it means. We’ve studied enough to know that the Revelation 12 Sign is legitimate. We understand what Jupiter represents and where the throne room is represented. Let’s keep watching, praying and working. I’ve been so encouraged by all of you. Don’t lose focus. Don’t lose hope. Keep your eyes open and your heart ready! Below are just notes. We believe it’s a Jubilee year which is also linked to the Rabbi Judah Ben Samuel prophecy. And the Revelation 12 Sign in which the man-child in moving into the throne room. U.N. Resolution passed on November 29, 1947. May 14, 2018 Isreal 70th Anniversary Not sure of the meaning of the movements (from Stellarium at the location of Jerusalem) but: 12/24/17 11:30 pm Jupiter enters Libra between Zubenelgenubi ll and Zubenesschamali 1/7/18 at 5:04am Jupiter/ Mars conjunction 3/9/18 in the evening at the beginning of Shabbat Parah Jupiter stops and begins retrograde. 5/30/18 crosses out of Libra (157 days) 7/9/18 comes out of retrograde (197 days)(Venus over Regulus in Leo) 8/20/18 crosses back into Libra (239 days) 10/11/18 crosses out of Libra while moon in in Libra (291 days) Retrograde beginning to end is 122 days. Passover 2018 March 30th thru April 7th. Shabbat Parah / שבת פרה Shabbat Parah ("Sabbath [of the] red heifer" שבת פרה) takes place on the Shabbat before Shabbat HaChodesh, in preparation for Passover. Numbers 19:1-22 describes the parah adumah ("red heifer") in the Jewish temple as part of the manner in which the kohanim and the Jewish people purified themselves so that they would be ready ("pure") to sacrifice the korban Pesach. Shabbat Parah begins at sundown on Fri, 09 March 2018. Hello tygreen, and welcome to the forum.
Thanks for your encouraging words and your insight. It's great to have you on board. Disciple4life - Even So Come, Lord Jesus. !
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Post by barbiosheepgirl on Dec 23, 2017 8:46:44 GMT -6
Rev 12:5 "But she gave birth to a Son--a male who is going to shepherd all nations with an iron scepter--and her child was caught up to God and to His throne. " This could be that fulfillment then of 12:5, in the heavenes. This is pretty interesting. Have to catch up from the beginning of this thread so bear with me if something is repeated or covered already. So mike to include you in this, Rev 12: 1 & 2, its fulfillment was in essence the signifyer. More needed to be played out in this celestial story. Now, Rev 12, 3, 4....was there ever a conclusion that this got displayed since Sep 23rd? socalexile at one time was insistent that it was to be a celestial event. I go back and forth on that because later we get the definition of the said "dragon" in Revelation and even the 7 heads and 10 horns. Still, though I waddle back over to socal's side that it should be a celestial event since the "male child" Jupiter is celestial all this time and we are anticipating it to portray an earthly event of a rapture eventually..
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Post by barbiosheepgirl on Dec 23, 2017 8:53:53 GMT -6
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Post by barbiosheepgirl on Dec 23, 2017 9:02:14 GMT -6
Because I had to: Zubeneschamali. ZUBENESCHAMALI (Beta Librae). ... Indeed, the name Zubeneschamali, the northern one of the two, comes from an Arabic phrase meaning "the northern claw," that of the Alpha star meaning "the southern claw."
zubenelgenubi. ZUBENELGENUBI (Alpha Librae). ... "Zubenelgenubi" derives from an Arabic phrase meaning the "Scorpion's southern claw," while the name of its mate (to which it is not physically related) refers to the northern claw.
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Post by barbiosheepgirl on Dec 23, 2017 9:11:46 GMT -6
Rev 12:5 "And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne". kjv
Strongs 726: harpázō – properly, seize by force; snatch up, suddenly and decisively – like someone seizing bounty (spoil, a prize); to take by an open display of force (i.e. not covertly or secretly).
Has anyone ever fathomed these words in bold? Romans 8:19 "For the anxious longing of the creation waits eagerly for the revealing of the sons of God."
Creation is going to know who these people are! I would think that includes man...
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Post by mike on Dec 23, 2017 14:21:39 GMT -6
Yes Babs! What does that mean exactly?! Why is creation waiting for me, you D4L and the countless others to be revealed? How glorious will we be?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2017 16:16:45 GMT -6
It is the revealing of the "sons of God", the barley harvest, that all creation is waiting for.
Why? Because that is the event that begins the process of restoring the rest of creation to God.
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Post by barbiosheepgirl on Dec 23, 2017 21:17:13 GMT -6
Question then becomes, is the Barley harvest "those in Christ who are asleep" only?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2017 22:39:42 GMT -6
The Barley harvest will include both living and dead. I believe I outlined this in the restoration thread. I'll try to find the post.
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Post by tygreen on Dec 24, 2017 0:19:01 GMT -6
Just a reminder that my observations in Stellarium were set to Jerusalem as the location. Obviously, you’d need to adjust the time for your respective time zones. The Lord can call us up at any time. Even though Jupiter crosses into Libra around 11:30pm Jerusalem time, we may be comforted with Matthew 25:6 “And at midnight there was a cry made, Behold, the bridegroom cometh; go ye out to meet him.” What remains if we’re still here afterwards is that we would still be in Rev 12:5 with days remaining in 2017. Hopeful for 2017😊. Yet if the Lord Jesus Christ chooses not to arrive and initiate our expected rendezvous in the sky, we still know that we’re in Rev 12:5 and we know the duration of that period. We would be in relatively uncharted territory as there aren’t any prophetic patterns to point to until Israel’s 70th or the Feast of Trumpets 2018 as far as I’m aware of. We do know that the next Feast Day to be fulfilled by our Lord is that one however we expected this in 2017. The Jupiter/Mars conjunction would be a high watch day obviously. Try this in Stellarium: look at Virgo and Leo on any significant date in Israel’s history. Many times you will see Mars in the womb area of Virgo, Mars or Venus at the head area of Virgo, or a planet in retrograde. Some even sweeping by Regulus in Leo. We may not fully understand what it all means but the representation means something. I haven’t observed that as a planet crosses a line between 2 stars in a constellation, something significant happened immediately. After a period of time, yes but not immediately. IMHO. It could. But there’s a first time for everything. Recall this later today on the 24th. Lastly, let’s remember that when Jesus Christ call us up, there’s a series of events that follow all the way up to the Second Coming that includes wrath that has never been seen upon the earth. We know this. The Bible makes it clear. I know that He doesn’t make the decision lightly to set the 70th week in motion. Pray for those that will be left behind. That they turn to Christ and be strong in the Lord through the end of their days. Keep your eyes open and your heart ready. 😊
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Post by barbiosheepgirl on Dec 24, 2017 9:48:22 GMT -6
I checked it out tygreen. I find it fun to see that Venus and the Sun are near a conjunction..."I, Jesus, have sent My angel to testify to you these things for the churches. I am the root and the descendant of David, the bright morning star." rev 22:16 Saturn it there too not sure the significance...
I tried to animate the program to show Jupiter's movements by advancing the time manually, but I lose sight of the things I want to watch as they go below the horizon. How do I operate the planetary movements to where I can view them in a full 24 hour period?
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Post by tygreen on Dec 24, 2017 13:24:19 GMT -6
barbiosheepgirl when you’re in Stellarium, move Virgo to the center, select the date/time. You can animate by holding down the time, day, month or year. There may be another way to do it. I’m new to the program myself. You can select the planet, center it (there’s an icon for this may be on the bottom of the screen. Highlight the icons) and everything else will move to see where it went during the time frame that you’re looking at. Again there may be another way to do this too. 😊
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Post by tygreen on Dec 26, 2017 4:32:15 GMT -6
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