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Post by Gary on Sept 2, 2017 9:32:30 GMT -6
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Post by mike on Sept 2, 2017 9:46:57 GMT -6
Excellent article but may I suggest you correct the typo in the Matt 1:18-23 quote. It incorrectly says Jesus in v. 18,19 & 20 when it should read Joseph
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2017 11:58:18 GMT -6
HI Mike. Thanks for your observation. I assume you are referring the second time we quoted Matt 1:18-23? If so, this is actually a modified quote in order to demonstrate the parallel nature of the prophecy and its fulfillment. Those typo's are intentional. But now I see that I should have made that more clear. So sorry about the confusion. But your observation actually helps to demonstrate the point that other than the change of a couple names, Mary to bride, and Joseph to Jesus. The readings are basically identical.
Also, and this would be for part 2 - when Jesus does return he does so as typed by Joseph. With a robe dipped in blood. But I will get into that more in part 2 of O Come O Come, Emmanuel.
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Post by mike on Sept 2, 2017 12:16:49 GMT -6
I'll re-read it...thanks for explaining it further
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Post by whatif on Sept 2, 2017 13:15:43 GMT -6
Wowww!!! Silentknight, this is absolutely amazing! My mind is entirely blown! Great article!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2017 15:07:38 GMT -6
Thanks Whatif, It certainly is an exciting time to live!
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Post by barbiosheepgirl on Sept 2, 2017 20:55:12 GMT -6
silentknight, I wanted to comment on the main page, but people are doing so here.
Mom and I were in awe of your observation. I came up with various football game analogies regarding your input that then Gary put into an article. Everyone seems to have great contributions in general, and this one was like one of the great plays at a Super bowl. You had been reading the defense all game, then saw some key element to break the game wide open. You called a huddle with coach Gary and brought your insite. Theres not much time left in the game and I feel you just took us down field and scored a touchdown, no penalties, no dropped passes, no timeouts. Now for the 2 point conversion!
Marantha, indeed!!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2017 21:09:17 GMT -6
barbiosheepgirl, You are too kind. And pretty funny, too. My wife is a big football fan and would totally appreciate your analogy. I think you can comment either place. But we are family here!
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Post by bhswah535 on Sept 3, 2017 1:06:19 GMT -6
Does this also relate to the sign of the Son of Man : And then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in the sky, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of the sky with power and great glory.—Matthew 24:30
Isaiah 7:14 related to Rev 12, which relates Rev to Matt 24:30. The sign of the Son of Man being the Rev 12 sign?
Claire
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2017 6:33:01 GMT -6
Does this also relate to the sign of the Son of Man : And then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in the sky, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of the sky with power and great glory.—Matthew 24:30 Isaiah 7:14 related to Rev 12, which relates Rev to Matt 24:30. The sign of the Son of Man being the Rev 12 sign? Claire The scripture in Matth 24:30 applies IMO to the visible (for all people) 2nd coming of Christ after the tribulation. I don't see a direct reference for the Rev12 sign to the sign of the Son of Man, I think it will be something special and different.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2017 6:39:38 GMT -6
Silentknight's study is an excellent example for Chuck Misslers motto: Every number and detail in the scripture has a purpose and a meaning.
Well done! I never discovered this difference (EDIT: 14-13) before....
The 17 verses before verse 18 remind me of the basis of the famous 153 fish number, which is associated with fullness. 1+2+3+....+17 = 153
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Post by sawdy on Sept 3, 2017 7:58:40 GMT -6
Silentknight's study is an excellent example for Chuck Misslers motto: Every number and detail in the scripture has a purpose and a meaning. Well done! I never discovered this difference (EDIT: 14-13) before.... The 17 verses before verse 18 remind me of the basis of the famous 153 fish number, which is associated with fullness. 1+2+3+....+17 = 153 I had to look up the fish number because I didn't know what you were talking about. Here is a link for other people like me. I'm sure yardstick could explain it better, but if you slow down to read it, this seems to be a pretty good explanation. home.earthlink.net/~bobseller1/id89.html
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2017 8:13:34 GMT -6
Silentknight's study is an excellent example for Chuck Misslers motto: Every number and detail in the scripture has a purpose and a meaning. Well done! I never discovered this difference (EDIT: 14-13) before.... The 17 verses before verse 18 remind me of the basis of the famous 153 fish number, which is associated with fullness. 1+2+3+....+17 = 153 I had to look up the fish number because I didn't know what you were talking about. Here is a link for other people like me. I'm sure yardstick could explain it better, but if you slow down to read it, this seems to be a pretty good explanation. home.earthlink.net/~bobseller1/id89.htmlThank you sawdy, here's one more illustration from Daniel Matson (scroll a bit down, then you see it): watchfortheday.org/2800gestation.html
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2017 8:16:32 GMT -6
Silentknight's study is an excellent example for Chuck Misslers motto: Every number and detail in the scripture has a purpose and a meaning. Well done! I never discovered this difference (EDIT: 14-13) before.... The 17 verses before verse 18 remind me of the basis of the famous 153 fish number, which is associated with fullness. 1+2+3+....+17 = 153 Stephan - I hadn't thought of that, but 153 is linked to the Gathering of the Son's of God, largely due to the story of casting on the other side the boat. This would add even more strength to argument - Great Find!
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Post by MissusMack08 on Sept 3, 2017 9:39:20 GMT -6
I did notice something else I thought needed to be corrected. Towards the end of the page. SilentKnight quotes Rev 12:1, "Then John comes along 800 years or so later and says, "I saw a great and wondrous sign in the heavens, a woman..."" I know he's paraphrasing to an extent, but maybe "wondrous" shouldn't be there, since the sign of 15:1 is "great and marvelous" but Rev 12:1 is just "great." I know the Greek word for "Sign" indicates that's it's a "wonder." But everyday English readers are not going to know that. Just so nobody is accused of misquoting scripture.
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