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Post by watchmanjim on Aug 27, 2017 0:29:36 GMT -6
I find that explanation to be possible also, socal. That's kind of my standard view, other views may be possibly true.
Although the 144K may be out of there sooner. Just not sure. We'll find out soon.
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Post by yardstick on Aug 28, 2017 0:14:20 GMT -6
I tend to think the 144k are a class of Tribulation saints, and the gathering of the elect in Matthew 24 refers to the gathering of the remnants of Israel and the Trib. Saints after the final battle. In the vid above, the guy maps out the planets and their movements through the ecliptic and aligns their positions with the events during the trib. One of the things that stood out to me, was his mid-trib/post-trib intepretation of a 'rapture' which appears to refer to the gathering of the elect most of the way through the trib. When I researched the relevant passage, it looked an awful lot like the angel harvesting the 144000. Which fits with a pre-trib viewpoint, rather than mid/late trib. I have a suspicion that a number of references to the 144,000 are being used as references to the pre-trib church; and this explains how a mid or post trib perspective has developed. |
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Post by tiffanybw on Aug 29, 2017 6:43:31 GMT -6
Not sure if anyone already said this but.... On Stellarium, for 9/23 there is a star right in front of the woman. Its name is Arcturus which is called the red giant star. It is one of the brightest stars seen from earth and in the constellation Bootes (the Herdsman). Comes from Ancient Greek "Arktouros" and means Bear Guard or The Watcher of the Bear. In Chinese it is known as "Ta-Kio" which means the Great Horn. It appears to shine 113 times more bright than the sun. It has a lower temperature than the sun, but alot of its energy is radiated as heat. It releases 215 times more radiation than the sun. It is considered a red giant. It stopped fusing hydrogen and now fuses Carbon. It is magnetically active and found in the bible in KJV Job 38:32. What does all this mean??? I have no idea but I found it fascinating! There are some thoughts I want to post here in this thread about Arcturus. I don't know if any of it means anything or not, and I'm not saying that Arcturus is the dragon we are looking for. But last night I watched a video from Barry's youtube channel, a dream he had about 2 bears. That somehow made me think of something I had read here about a bear guardian but I couldn't remember what. So I came here and found this post about Arcturus. Also, I didn't put 2 and 2 together until last night after watching the youtube video... Not every night but some nights I've been going outside and using the telescope I had bought (originally I got it because it came with a solar filter to view the eclipse). I've been using it while on vacation here at the beach though because it is pretty cool! Ever since I've been down here, a particular star in the sky draws my attention every single night. At first I was just looking at it through the telescope. It is beautiful! But also when I look at it, I don't know and don't want to put too much stock into feelings, but I get in my spirit a strange feeling. Feelings that are creepy, ominous, scary, that I am looking at something significant. I also have thought to myself while looking at this star... just thought it in my mind and I don't know for sure and never say definitely that "The Holy Spirit told me", but I feel it might be possible this thought came from The Holy Spirit... "Judgement is coming." (Keep in mind that all of this, before I even knew what this star was, before I watched this youtube video.) Anyways, every single time I go out to look with my telescope this star gets my attention and gives me the feelings described above. So I spent a few dollars and downloaded an app on my phone, one of those night sky apps which you point your phone and it tells you what you are looking at. This star I was/am looking at... Arcturus. Then the video about Barry who had the dream about 2 bears. Then I came back here to find the post in which I remembered reading "guardian of the bear". And yep, it is Arcturus. I put a post on Barry's video which I'll copy and paste here, spent some time looking up things about this star. Here is the video: Here is the comment(s) I put: "Watched this last night and can't get something out of my mind so I just want to share with you. I'm not sure if it means anything or if it does, not sure what it means. I had bought cheaper telescope to use to watch the eclipse. It was cloudy where I was so turns out telescope wasn't much good for that. However, I'm at the beach right now and it has been awesome using it at night! The following might sound crazy, but still I feel led to share: The star Arcturus has really gotten my attention both this week and last. It's just so bright in the sky right now, so easy to find, and just strikes something in me spiritually (the feeling I get from it is a strange one; I don't know if bad or good and if trusting my gut instinct I would go with bad). I try not to go on feelings only though. Regardless, I feel led by The Holy Sprit that it is definitely significant, something important, maybe ominous, and also the word judgement came to mind). Also, I belong to a forum called Unsealed, an incredible place and you definitely should check it out! There is a thread over there called "find the dragon" or similar. Not sure exactly where, maybe page 9 or so of this thread, there is a poster who gives some facts about Arcturus and we speculate on the significance of this star (which I did not link what this person said together with what I've been looking at in the sky till last night after watching this video and this video striking me the way it did). A few things about Arcturus: the 4th brightest star in the sky; part of constellation Bootes; a red giant; is near to Virgo; is part of something called "the diamond of virgo" or "the great diamond"; in Chinese it means "great horn"; in Arabic "the uplifted one, the keeper of heaven, the keeper of north". ***The ancient Greek meaning is "guardian of the bear".*** It is said to guard **2 bears**; the greater bear and the lesser bear aka Ursa Major and Ursa Minor. Also, some sort of tribal people in Australia used to wait for the appearance in the north of this star because for them it signified the arrival of the larvae of the wood ant (food source for them). I found that interesting though, because "wormwood"( ) don't know. Another thing about this star, evidently there is some new agey type group of people out there who believe that this star is the sun of some planet that is home to the highest civilization of beings, that this civilization is going to come to earth to user it into the next dimension and "upgrade" all human beings into like they already are... peaceful and loving. They also believe that already there are some people here on earth that are "from the seed of this Arcturian civilization" and consider themselves highly enlightened and blah, blah, blah, Satanic deception at it's finest. Sorry so long. I don't know what any of this means, but again just feel really led to share because of the significance connecting to the 2 bears and the dream you had. I'd love to hear your thoughts on all of it. Here are 2 links though there is lots more out there. I've been looking up information about this star since I first got the strange feeling in my spirit while out looking at it through my telescope. I'm by no means an expert or knowledgeable when it comes to astronomy, so maybe other's out there are and know more about this "bear guardian star". God Bless!"Also 2 of the links I've been to (there is more but these are the 2 I linked): Ooops, links: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arcturus#Other_nameswww.arcturi.com/ArcturianArchives.htmlAlso I looked up mention of Arcturus in the Bible: Job 9:9 "Which maketh Arcturus, Orion, and Pleiades, and the chambers of the south."
Job 38:32 "Canst thou bring forth Mazzaroth in his season? or canst thou guide Arcturus with his sons?"
So... I wanted to share here too. And would love to hear anyone's thoughts on it, or if anyone who is more knowledgeable concerning astronomy (as I am not lol). |
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Post by whatif on Aug 29, 2017 10:04:16 GMT -6
Fascinating information, tiffanybw!
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Post by mike on Aug 30, 2017 8:23:15 GMT -6
I have been reading information regarding how the solar system was formed from Creationism.org (via Stephan). I found it to be very fascinating and highly recommend it as it does mathematically disprove the current theories that the solar system was formed from gasses from the sun or a collection of rocks accumulating mass. We all know they were created by our God and placed as he saw fit. I encourage you to investigate for yourselves as this model does indeed support a "Nibiru" type of solar system. I'd say it took me a few hours to read volume 1 where the solar system is theorized. There are 3 volumes. I'm currently in volume 2 which again (mathematically) supports Mars' role in the system and explains it history including the asteroid belt and Mars' odd terrain. According to the information Mars' orbit was elliptical and often fly by earth at very close proximity, which would result in catastrophic flooding (Noah), debris raining down from the sky (Sodom & Gomorrah) among other events. I found the below excerpt from www.creationism.org/patten/PattenMarsEarthWars/PattenMEW04.htm and although I know extremely little about Hesiod, it is possible he took poetic license here expounding on what he saw. Its possible its completely fabricated. Or its possible this really happened! Hesiod saw the final flyby in 701 B.C.E. from Greece. He saw it in its celestial splendor, and in its frightful context also. He penned the following:
There grew a hundred snake heads, those of a dreaded dragon,
and the heads licked with dark tongues, and from the eyes on
the inhuman heads fire glittered from under the eyelids;
from all his heads fire flared from his eyes' glancing;
On manslaughtering Ares, as he came onward, keeping his dread eyes upon him,
Like a lion that has come on a victim, and with his strong claws, violently tears up the hide.
In Theogony, another work of Hesiod, he endeavored to put down the cosmic history of Mars scenes for perhaps 1,500 years. The following passage is about Thyphoeus (Typhoon), an archetype of Mars. This is the origin of our word "typhoon."
The hands and arms of him are mighty, and have work in them,
and the feet of the powerful god were tireless, and up from his shoulders,
there grew a hundred snake heads, those of a dreaded dragon,
and the heads licked with dark tongues, and from the eyes on
the inhuman heads fire glittered from under the eyelids;
from all his heads fire flared from his eyes' glancing;
and inside each one of these horrible heads there were voices
that threw out every sort of horrible sound, ...
Throwing this into the mix as if there is any possibility of a Nibiru event, it would explain a lot of what John may have seen. It is also possible he was or became familiar with these historical events which helped him explain what he saw. *EDIT - more from the content above...i believe this was written in 2003 Mars was the celestial dragon of the cosmos, going by the nickname of Leviathan, the serpent of the cosmos. It was during the October Mars flyby of the 18th century B.C.E. They are joined one to another, they stick together, that they cannot be sundered. By his sneezings a light doth shine, and his eyes are like the eyelids of the morning. Out of his mouth go burning lamps, and sparks of fire leap out. Out of his nostrils goeth smoke, as out of a seething pot or cauldron. His breath kindleth coals, and a flame goeth out of his mouth. Job 41:17-21
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Post by brad on Aug 30, 2017 11:53:55 GMT -6
After several years of searching for that elusive Red Dragon, I find myself right back to where I started… Still not convinced we have actually Identified him.
I believe that if the Dragon is a celestial Sign made up of planets, Stars, Sun and the moon… Then I think Sam has the best theory out there. But I'm still not convinced...
I think it most likely the first time we see him will be when he launches an attack at the rapture….
I’ll be on high alert from now until November 18th… Many of you have brought up alternative times and dates… I count them all as valid possibilities…The only thing we know for sure is the timing of the Great sign alignment on the 23d/24th…
So this is my last post on the Dragon…. Let’s use whatever time we have left to get the gospel out and to give a good hand off to those about to be left behind…
Brad
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Post by whatif on Aug 30, 2017 13:19:41 GMT -6
So this is my last post on the Dragon…. Unless you find something more, which is what I hope! |
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Post by andrew on Sept 9, 2017 23:13:56 GMT -6
I was just watching...https://youtu.be/QP3SicH2NPI
It is a video about the probability of the Revelation 12 sign occurring on the 23rd by Dale Sides.
He mentions Planet X, which he also calls Rahab.
I knew Rahab sounded close to something I'd heard flat earthers discussing in regards to eclipses...https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rahu
The Hindu 'god' Rahu, believed to swallow the sun and cause eclipses, who is a serpent with no body, is considered the head. Ketu is considered the body or "tail". Rahu releases the sun to avoid having his, "head split into seven pieces". It would make sense that there would be a preexisting religion ready to worship the dragon upon arrival.
Brother Sides suspects the second sign will occur immediately following the first and there may be an unscheduled eclipse that day. He seems to lean toward the rapture being near that time as well.
Could this be why no one has spotted the second great sign, because it simply hasn't arrived yet, and may not until we are gone.
Is L.A. Marzulli right? When we go up, they come down? Could it be that it will all happen in the twinkling of an eye?
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Post by MissusMack08 on Sept 10, 2017 9:21:56 GMT -6
Hi andrew! Welcome to the forum! There are a few other threads devoted to "the dragon sign" with lots of speculation and discussion. I don't think the view/information you brought up has been mentioned yet. Very interesting! But you may like to read through the big thread and get a sense of what all has already been discussed and maybe some of your questions can be answered there. And you can add your ideas there too. Here is the main thread: unsealed.boards.net/thread/107/find-dragon |
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Post by andrew on Sept 10, 2017 11:42:43 GMT -6
I started another thread with this post, then someone directed me here. Here's a copy... I was just watching...https://youtu.be/QP3SicH2NPI It is a video about the probability of the Revelation 12 sign occurring on the 23rd by Dale Sides. He mentions Planet X, which he also calls Rahab. I knew Rahab sounded close to something I'd heard flat earthers discussing in regards to eclipses...https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rahu The Hindu 'god' Rahu, believed to swallow the sun and cause eclipses, who is a serpent with no body, is considered the head. Ketu is considered the body or "tail". Rahu releases the sun to avoid having his, "head split into seven pieces". It would make sense that there would be a preexisting religion ready to worship the dragon upon arrival. Brother Sides suspects the second sign will occur immediately following the first and there may be an unscheduled eclipse that day. He seems to lean toward the rapture being near that time as well. Could this be why no one has spotted the second great sign, because it simply hasn't arrived yet, and may not until we are gone. Is L.A. Marzulli right? When we go up, they come down? Could it be that it will all happen in the twinkling of an eye? Read more: unsealed.boards.net/thread/776/second-great-sign#ixzz4sIaxHsf2 |
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Post by tiffanybw on Sept 10, 2017 13:34:39 GMT -6
Fascinating information, tiffanybw! Another thing about Arcturus... Yesterday, I saw a video on Barry's channel about the movie "Passengers" and so I watched the video. Here it is: In this video, lots of interesting stuff how the movie Passengers parallel's the Revelation 12 Sign. And in the movie, when the lady goes to "resurrect" the man... she needs a code to the machine to do it. And the code is 92317. Imagine that! My husband, he rents movies a lot and so one of the ones we had was Passengers. I decided to watch it. At one point in the movie the spaceship they are in that is headed to their new home, that takes 120 years to get there but these 2 passengers woke up early (or really only 1 woke up and then he woke the other one up but whatever).... the movie has this big scene in it where they are looking out this big glass window of the ship they are in as they pass this beautiful and gorgeous star. Guess which star??? Yep, Arcturus. I haven't a clue what any of it means. But it was a big scene centered around it in that movie... watching Arcturus as they passed it in their ship and talking about it's beauty. Not sure what else they the dialogue was during the scene, would have to go back and look again. Got my immediate attention though, when in this movie such a huge 'to do' was made over the star Arcturus, and so figured should post it here and add to everything in my last post in this thread about Arcturus. |
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Post by whatif on Sept 10, 2017 14:56:14 GMT -6
That is amazing, tiffanybw!
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Post by watchmanjim on Sept 10, 2017 21:53:14 GMT -6
In fact, I think I'll go ahead and merge the two threads.
Welcome, Andrew! Whose Scottish Tartan pattern is that?
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Post by andrew on Sept 11, 2017 11:27:53 GMT -6
In fact, I think I'll go ahead and merge the two threads. Welcome, Andrew! Whose Scottish Tartan pattern is that? Clan Moubray, ancient pattern. |
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Post by watchmanjim on Sept 11, 2017 11:29:39 GMT -6
Ah I see now you had posted first a while ago. Welcome back!
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) don't know. Another thing about this star, evidently there is some new agey type group of people out there who believe that this star is the sun of some planet that is home to the highest civilization of beings, that this civilization is going to come to earth to user it into the next dimension and "upgrade" all human beings into like they already are... peaceful and loving. They also believe that already there are some people here on earth that are "from the seed of this Arcturian civilization" and consider themselves highly enlightened and blah, blah, blah, Satanic deception at it's finest. 
