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Post by barbiosheepgirl on Jan 16, 2018 22:13:07 GMT -6
cwood85, MikeTaft, GPS: Time will reveal much for us over the next year at minimum, even the next few months or so. I think much prayer is needed for all of us here in case we find ourselves still counting, still looking up at the stars, still logging in at Unsealed now and then.. Let's open our Bibles and just prayerfully submit to the Lord, He will reveal to each one of us what is needed for each one of us. Someone said to me once that the Bible has all the answers..and there is not one situation in modern day life that the Bible can not address. If I can get anything out of this thread is that I want to draw near to the Lord thru His Word, and enough of the books and analysis already. Give it a Rest...and just read about Him!
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Post by grandpaskitzo on Jan 16, 2018 22:14:12 GMT -6
I agree cwood85 . I’ve had so much I’ve wanted to add to these posts, but certain circumstances in my life always keep me from these things. God is moving my life around this year and I’ve seen the vision of the end, or should I say the beginning of His placement for me in His kingdom. When those things begin I know I’ll be able to contribute more, and I’m working on making that time as best I can. But I can say, at least for me and if not others like me, I’m taking all of this in and doing a bunch of studies on my own. I write everyday and study everyday, almost every minute I get away from life, and I’m preparing for the moments God will use me to continue the restoration message. I’ve been stocking up certain things that will contribute lots, but I’m sure many are doing the same. God will use us all in His time to reveal more of these messages to each other as everyone has their part. God bless you all! And let’s continue to pray for each other as I fully believe God is leading each one here to spread the good news. Love you all! Keep it up! |
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Post by sawdy on Jan 16, 2018 23:03:11 GMT -6
Honestly I am surprised these threads @silentknight has posted (aka one novelette and now two novels lol) do not have more of an audience, or at least a more interactive one. When I have read commentary from others, I tend to sit down with a book, a PDF, or blog about a topic. I find I can't focus on bits of a large information download when it is posted over time. I am doing better now by going back though SK's threads and focusing solely on them but I still have to put them down (like anything else) and digest it. I am not very interactive in these threads as they generally are persuading my to rethink everything I learned, everything I have studied, and everything that I thought I knew. I know that I am looking at the scripture but it is basically like telling me that my bible is untrue, that what I believed is wrong. Not everyone is ready for a drastic shift in their beliefs. This is why I don't comment. It is taking a lot of time for me to process the perspective provided by SK. Someday, when you have all moved on from these boards, I will still be here, learning and (hopefully) continuing to encourage others. Because even though many of us have left over time, more continue to come. |
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Post by chohouston on Jan 17, 2018 13:10:20 GMT -6
Couldn't agree more than all the above statements. It took me a while to change my thinking and casting down idols is one thing that changed everything. I haven't posted much on here but I've reached out to SK saying that all that he had taught on restoration and the Kingdom gospel has spoken so large in my life. Kinda like when things just click and I knew our Father that much more. There are a lot of people that are getting the message, more than what the posts may dictate. Maybe that's what's missing, is a little encouragement. I appreciate this forum very much!
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Post by klb on Jan 17, 2018 16:21:28 GMT -6
I came on to ask a question but I see that SilentKnight is no longer on here?
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Post by Natalie on Jan 17, 2018 16:38:03 GMT -6
Silentknight has left for personal reasons. His threads remain open right now, but he's not available to answer questions. We hope that he will return.
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Post by cwood85 on Feb 3, 2018 23:23:02 GMT -6
Hi all, it's been a while since I have posted here on the board and thought I would start here. I would like to summarize my personal understanding so far of The Kingdom of God thread that SK wrote. barbiosheepgirl has been doing so much research on all of this and what she has found is pretty amazing. A question and statement was made if God would pick a specific religion to judge? I think what it really comes down to is the action that will cause the judgment as a collective group of people, no matter what religion or race/genealogy is for that matter. So those who practice Judaism for example, are doing everything in their power to build a third temple and start sacrifices. Judaism to the best of my knowledge rejects the work that Jesus did on the cross, and are still waiting for their version of the Messiah to come and save them and be a King to them. Christianity as a collective group is supporting this to happen. Does God know who within the collective group of Christianity does not support this, yes He does. I do not think it is judgement against a religion, race, or genealogy, but the group of people supporting and committing the act. That is what I took from SK's studying. I feel we have missed a major duh over the last couple thousand years of Christianity. All through the NT the apostles, mainly Paul, where doing everything they could to get the Jews and Gentiles to realize what Christ achieved on the cross and eradicated the need for being circumcised and trying to be righteous under the law. The point was no one could follow the law and we needed a savior. And now we are going in with fund raising, donations, mission trips, DNA research to find the lineage of the Levites (spelling?), trained High Priest to perform sacrifices to FORGIVE THEIR SINS and usher in the Messiah under the law again... Their version of the Messiah that is, or a different god. We have completely flipped around backwards and are doing exactly what Paul and the other apostles were telling everyone and died brutal deaths for everyone not to do their own works but to believe in what Jesus did for us. By continuing to follow the law adn sacrificing for forgiveness and atonement makes what Jesus did on the cross worthless. The collective group of Christianity and majority of Israel have romanticized the idea of a third temple... instead of being a Paul and telling everyone hey we don't need to do this because Jesus did it ALL, we basically have been deceived, fallen in love with the temple events, and follow along just as blind as the Jewish people who still reject what Jesus did on the cross. I have Hebrew/Jewish lineage and had ancestors who died in the holocaust, I was not offended by what SK was presenting in regards to modern Israel as being something against a Jewish person. He was not doing that. He was stating this: in the act of still rejecting the work Jesus did on the cross, going back to the law, following the law, sacrificing to forgive sins when that happened 2000 years ago and that as a majority Christians who are supporting the efforts to achieve this. That was my take on his studies. I am still seeking this out, researching, and praying. We all should do that. EDIT: I forgot one thing and this is a Paul move, Instead of putting in all this effort, money, and energy into rebuilding a temple, what we Christians should be doing is SHARING & PREACHING THE GOSPEL TO THEM. |
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Post by fitz on Feb 4, 2018 9:16:15 GMT -6
Good post cwood85. We should indeed be sharing the Gospel with them. I think the Christians that have gotten caught up in actively supporting the third temple (actually funding it and pushing for it to happen) are misguided. They think that by hastening the re-building of the temple that they can hasten the events they long to see. Namely, the rapture of the church and subsequently, the tribulation. I've never given a dime to this effort myself, but I have to admit that I watch these things closely, and I'd be crazy not to. Because while it's wrong for Christians to support this effort, I believe the Jews will forge ahead with their plan, and this is really fulfilling God's plan. The prophecies are true, so that temple will be re-built in some form, and the sacrifices will start up again, and the A of D will occur. But as a Christian, the nearer we get to this becoming reality just means my "redemption draweth nigh". I can't hasten this or slow it, nor should I try. But I need to be watching it unfold, because it will, and it's a sure sign that Jesus is coming soon.
Edit: Just want to add...I remember hearing a Lutheran pastor (amillennialist) preach about how the Dispensationalists have it all wrong. Basically, he said: "If the Jews do ever rebuild the temple and start sacrificing, this abomination would cause God to immediately rain fire on the earth!"
Well, I though to myself, that's the first correct thing he has said...it's called the Tribulation.
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Post by cwood85 on Feb 4, 2018 9:55:29 GMT -6
Good post cwood85. We should indeed be sharing the Gospel with them. I think the Christians that have gotten caught up in actively supporting the third temple (actually funding it and pushing for it to happen) are misguided. They think that by hastening the re-building of the temple that they can hasten the events they long to see. Namely, the rapture of the church and subsequently, the tribulation. I've never given a dime to this effort myself, but I have to admit that I watch these things closely, and I'd be crazy not to. Because while it's wrong for Christians to support this effort, I believe the Jews will forge ahead with their plan, and this is really fulfilling God's plan. The prophecies are true, so that temple will be re-built in some form, and the sacrifices will start up again, and the A of D will occur. But as a Christian, the nearer we get to this becoming reality just means my "redemption draweth nigh". I can't hasten this or slow it, nor should I try. But I need to be watching it unfold, because it will, and it's a sure sign that Jesus is coming soon. Good points. That is the other point SK was explaining, those that support and are encouraging the building of the temple and sacrifices may be in for a big shock. Sure the Jews will forge ahead with their plan to build the temple and start sacrifices. But those in Christianity are under that same following by supporting, are in the same category as doing the sacrifices unfortunately. My parents always taught me that if I hang around the wrong crowd and they do bad things and even if I do not do the bad things, but am there with them, it is just as bad and I will get in just as much trouble when they get caught. Our laws in our legal system work that way. If you are involved in a crime in anyway, you to receive some form of punishment... And this is why SK is warning of a possible falling away. |
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Post by barbiosheepgirl on Feb 4, 2018 10:57:08 GMT -6
Exactly, fitz . The perspective brought forth by SK having laid out a case of the Sonship/Kingship/Priesthood documented thru out the Old Testament was for me a great lesson of God's Law. The Law not being the 10 Commandments, but the Law being the way God operates (if any man could even fully comprehend, I don't believe so). In Romans 11 we see this by Paul even quoting from the OT: When I was reading Jeremiah White's book of Restoration, one thing that occurred to me was he was living in the late 1600's. There was no modern day nation of Israel in existence. White writes: " God gave these laws not so much to manifest his absolute dominion and sovereignity as some think, but for the good of those that were enjoined to obey them, and as an expression throughout of the devine care and goodness, as well as power and authority;and this belief Moses endeavors almost throughout the book of Deuteronomy to strengthen the Israelites in. Yea, his very ceremonial laws were all types, figures, shadows, of the good things that were to come: there is in short the highest good, philanthropy, equality, fitness, and charity, running through all his laws."Later he makes note that the workings of God, He make man a land of Egypt, sometimes a passage out of it;here a Red Sea, there a way through it; now a wilderness, then a land of Canaan." White writes about the jealousy as being the zeal of love, being as strong and cruel as death in its strength... and the blindness " He does so thou mayest be absolutely lost until the final recovery..." This author not living in our day equated the things which we attribute to real peoples of Israel as those who are hardened for purpose of His Wrath to come for this very Recovery of His Kingdom..I really paraphrasing this man's work. But he had no reference to a "generation" being in relation to an actual nation..but what he had to work with was God's work thru the OT as a parallel to Life to be given, and Christ's Work on the cross as this breakthrough to immortality and light. The Revelation of Jesus as being the distinctions between Light and darkness just as the OT shed the wisdom of this. For sure I pay attention to who we call our ally over there in the middle East. For sure the Lord is going to do a work over there as opposed to doing something in Lincoln Nebraska, or Helsinki Finland, or somewhere in Antartica...so Israel is still relevant to the Work of God and we are seemingly ever so close. There is a pretty unique understanding of the WORD when you allow things to be Spiritually interpreted. Apply what God is doing behind the scenes Spiritually to those things that appear literal in studying these End Times. The Prophets like Ezekiel have visions so interconnected to Revelation. Its like one could overlay Revelation onto the OT and glean quite a bit the struggle of man to become glorified. |
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Post by cwood85 on Feb 7, 2018 15:20:29 GMT -6
Amen! What this man is saying is so important to what is happening today. This is in direct relation to this thread. EDIT: Removed dual link ... Left original link in the thread below..... Read more: unsealed.boards.net/thread/1366/church-drunk-over-israel#ixzz56SjezfymWARNING: This video speaks against Premillennialism and the idea that God is restoring Israel to their land....... |
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Post by mike on Feb 8, 2018 13:10:12 GMT -6
I am currently listening to this debate over "Replacement Theology" and the "church". The intent is the truth and not to prove one right and one wrong, which he says at the outset. I think it is an interesting listen to the two debate the scriptures so we can be better educated. In the first 10 minutes we hear about prophecies yet to be fulfilled, and most importantly Gods character.
My intent was to locate the video originally inserted here but I found this one first which is quite interesting to me in light of the teaching of this thread and some of the dialogue in some others as of late.
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Post by witness1 on Feb 8, 2018 19:48:12 GMT -6
This looks really interesting. Please let us know your main take-aways when you’ve finished watching it!
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Post by mike on Feb 8, 2018 19:52:35 GMT -6
This looks really interesting. Please let us know your main take-aways when you’ve finished watching it! FYI there is nothing to watch it's all audio. Listened to the first hour and they both make compelling arguments for physical Israel returning to the physical land and spiritual Israel, good info. I won't give my take on either position but will say neither support replacement theology |
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Post by mike on Feb 9, 2018 12:58:21 GMT -6
witness1 or anyone else who reads this...check out less than one minute of what is said and take it to heart. Go to hour 1:39:42-1:40:30
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