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Post by nana on Sept 14, 2018 12:44:06 GMT -6
We have the upcoming meeting at the UN nana . That could get interesting Yes, September 25th.... and 7 days after/later is Shemini Atzeret according to the calendar, October 1/2
Is this our 7 day warning... Like Noah was given? I don't know but I am watching still.
Found this.
www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/250824Report: 'Deal of the Century' to be unveiled next month
PA newspaper reports Trump peace plan to be unveiled during president's speech to UN General Assembly in September
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Post by Natalie on Sept 14, 2018 12:54:19 GMT -6
I will watch the video a bit later today, Nat, but I have this question; and my apologies if our beloved Barry explains this all. In the meantime this is the question I have at the moment: If the Temple of God is one not made with hands, meaning it is composed of a multitude of stones (believers) and the chief cornerstone being Jesus, why does there need to be a physical Ark found? If they do uncover it, what meaning will it have? The need for a physical ark seems to counter the events surrounding New Jerusalem Revelation: The one who is victorious I will make a pillar in the temple of My God, and he will never again leave it. Upon him I will write the name of My God, and the name of the city of My God (the new Jerusalem that comes down out of heaven from My God), and My new name. Would not a "new Ark" be implied here as well? And with that if we are talking about the ark of the covenant, do we not have a NEW covenant, with no need to be housed in an ark? The video is just a short little clip about the red heifer - no commentary from Barry. I edited my previous post to include that it is only a minute long. I think to answer your question you have to separate the believing church and unbelieving Israel. The church is being made into a temple of God with the Holy Spirit in each of us. We can each be symbolically a stone in this temple and Jesus the cornerstone that holds it all together. It's not a physical temple but a spiritual one, put together by God and not man. But the Jews are still in unbelief. They are still waiting on the Messiah. They think they need a physical temple, thus the need for the red heifer. They think they need the ark which represents their covenant with God. They think they need all the furnishings that have been prepared in anticipation of this temple they will build. There will come a day when they realize the truth and those who believe will be joined to us in that spiritual temple. They won't need all of those furnishings because they ultimately point to Christ. I look forward to studying venge's most recent post. ETA: Just grabbed this verse from what venge posted. I think it is talking about the Millennial Kingdom, but there will be no need for the ark. “And it will be when you have multiplied and increased in the land, in those days, says the LORD, they shall say no more, The Ark of the Covenant of the LORD! Nor shall it come to mind; nor shall they remember it; nor shall they visit it; nor shall it be made any more. At that time they shall call Jerusalem the throne of the LORD; and all nations shall be gathered to it, to the Name of the LORD, to Jerusalem. Nor shall they walk any more after the stubbornness of their evil heart” (Jeremiah 3:16-17 MKJV).
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Post by venge on Sept 14, 2018 15:01:00 GMT -6
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Post by Natalie on Sept 14, 2018 15:28:23 GMT -6
venge don't know what you mean by "nothing man made is shown". I will agree that the passage doesn't say who made this temple that he sees in his vision. It could be manmade or not. But because so much detail and exactness is given, I feel that it must be a real building, but I think it will be built for the Millennial Kingdom and the worship to take place there. I do not think that Ezekiel's temple is the temple that is built for Daniel's 70th week. There is one before it. I think Ezekiel's temple is for when all nations shall gather as spoken of in Jeremiah. (and places like Zech 8:22-23, 14:16, Haggai 2:7-9) That's why things like the ark are missing--they aren't needed. But it will be the place where God dwells with His people. Ezekiel 43:7 and He said to me, "Son of man, this is the place of my throne and the soles of my feet, where I will dwell in the midst of the people of Israel forever." However, this temple will not last forever only God's dwelling in the midst of His people is forever, because in Rev 21, after the 1000 years, it says, "And I saw no temple in the city, for its temple is the Lord God the Almighty and the Lamb." (21:22)
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Post by Natalie on Sept 14, 2018 15:40:36 GMT -6
Edit: I looked up the Hebrew for 6 in Strongs. "like the heart of God" can also be translated "as the heart of a god". The word used is elohiym which gets translated as God, as a god, and as judge. So, King of Tyre may have set his heart as the heart of a god. I do agree that it is still problem of having too much pride, but I do not think that we can most definitely say that he thought of himself as the one and only God. Only he and God know for sure. also addressing venge -- I will have to study a bit more about the king of Tyre. My translation reads "Because your heart is proud, and you have said, 'I am a god, I sit in the seat of the gods, in the heart of the seas.'" (28:1) You are right - he's not sitting in the Jewish temple; he sees himself as one of the gods not necessarily The Only God. His heart is puffed up with pride. A bit like Nebuchadnezzar, who God also humbled. However, it's not the same as 2 Thes 2:4 when someone comes along exalting himself, not only puffed up in his heart but announcing it to everyone that he is the only God. I am sure there are many throughout history who considered themselves one of the gods (thinking of Pharaoh and others), but it's quite another to announce to the world that you are the only God.
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Post by venge on Sept 14, 2018 16:04:24 GMT -6
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Post by venge on Sept 14, 2018 17:17:01 GMT -6
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Post by nana on Sept 16, 2018 8:09:40 GMT -6
nana I heard the same type of sermon that you just mentioned regarding the tearing of the veil/curtain and top to bottom because no man could have done that. I imagine it was made of wool or linen which are super strong fabrics. You can not tear a woven wool blanket, nor linen (which is flax). And I agree too or it makes spiritual sense that God was to show this tearing that now the way to Him was thru Jesus, the New Covenant. However you then went on to say this: I would need some scripture for this thought. I have never heard that. Were there caves below Skull Hill? This seems too physical a thing for "God" to do, meaning, who would have stolen the ark except some believing high priests who would have had access? however, you have me curious. Search Ron Wyatt on youtube, he has seen the ark and the cave. Sorry for the delay of getting back to you.
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Post by nana on Sept 16, 2018 8:12:54 GMT -6
Here is a quote from the Temple Institute that I linked in my previous response. I found this last night: Could the tunnels lead under Golgatha? I don't know the landscape of Israel in order to answer that. Search Ron Wyatt on youtube
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Post by venge on Sept 16, 2018 11:39:40 GMT -6
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Post by nana on Sept 16, 2018 11:54:30 GMT -6
If Ron Wyatt actually found the ark, then God would have wanted him to find it per his own testimony that angels showed him where it was. Therefore, God would want the world to see it yet Ron Wyatt instead keeps it buried and hidden to which no one can see it. It doesn't make sense. If you find something, you do research on it, you catalog it, you do analysis on it, and you get others to look at it. You write articles on it with photographic proof, etc...I don't see any of that. Just heresay He died in 1999 He had the blood tested found on top of the ark box...there is footage of it and footage of the digs he did.
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Post by venge on Sept 17, 2018 8:21:11 GMT -6
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Post by nana on Sept 18, 2018 16:57:07 GMT -6
He died in 1999 He had the blood tested found on top of the ark box...there is footage of it and footage of the digs he did.
Yes, that’s what he said. And his cohort said the paper testifying to the blood from the lab is buried with the ark so there is no proof. If I remember correctly he was told by the officials if this information became public things would get really bad back then and that he went back on day and everything was gone, removed. Mr. Wyatt has no reason to lie nor try to cover it up, in fact he tried to get this information out just as he did with Noah's ark too.
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Post by bondservant on Oct 13, 2018 5:40:58 GMT -6
The spiritual is always reflected by what takes place in the natural. The heifer is to be three to five years of age and totally red in color for the sacrifice. According to Temple Institute Org, they can have the 3rd Temple erected in 72 hrs.
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2019 18:21:51 GMT -6
Daily sacrifices cease at the AOD, so for the AOD to occur, the daily sacrifices must resume... For the daily sacrifices to resume, the Jews must perform the ceremony of the Red Heifer to cleanse the Holy Place.... A candidate for the Red Heifer was born in Israel in August 2018, but now there are several more candidates..... The Jews have moved up the date that defines a heifer from 3 to 2 years.....targeting 2020-2021 The ceremony of the Red Heifer in 2020-2021 fits the hypothesis of the 70th week from 2017-2024.... My radar is on high alert for the following: - Saudi "cause to strengthen covenant" as in the fall of 2017 - The red heifer ceremony, followed by resumption of daily sacrifices overseen by the Sanhedrin - Food pressure from now through 2020 www.breakingisraelnews.com/tag/red-heifer/
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