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Post by Natalie on Sept 11, 2020 19:50:49 GMT -6
Here's a little more I found on the Sabbath of the Red Heifer... www.hebcal.com/holidays/shabbat-parahIt takes place every year right before Passover so that the people are purified for Passover. |
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Post by mike on Sept 11, 2020 20:41:11 GMT -6
Here's a little more I found on the Sabbath of the Red Heifer... www.hebcal.com/holidays/shabbat-parahIt takes place every year right before Passover so that the people are purified for Passover. Nelson and our old friend Sam have a video covering this coming out next week I believe |
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Post by disciple4life on Sept 11, 2020 21:13:48 GMT -6
Here's a little more I found on the Sabbath of the Red Heifer... www.hebcal.com/holidays/shabbat-parahIt takes place every year right before Passover so that the people are purified for Passover. Thanks, Natalie. I just think that the exact timing, the numbers, the precision, the odds, - i mean, it's just mind-blowing. It would be amazing just if the total days added up to 2550. I think any rational, open-minded person would pause and say "Wow, there is something here that warrants a second look". But the fact that we have the exact match of day count from Feast of Trumpets/Rosh Hoshanah this year to the Sabbath of the red heifer =1260 days is way beyond coincidence. Then, in a way that can only be divine planning and like some Great Cosmic God Calendar, there are 1290 days from the red heifer to the Day of Atonement. Pastor Toney said that he tried putting the numbers in for multiple years out and nothing else works. |
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Post by klb on Sept 12, 2020 21:51:34 GMT -6
This is amazing! Thanks for tagging me!
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Post by yardstick on Sept 13, 2020 16:58:16 GMT -6
doctormom , gkp , venge , fitz , stormyknight , klb , nana , Natalie , mike , Thought you all would be interested in this - I was totally blown away. Where's a statistics and probability guy when you need one? yardstick  Beuuuuller?? This is astounding on several levels, but first of all, because since I discovered my family's Jewish roots, we have been on a journey to understand the Feasts and how they are God's prophetic calendar. I never knew about or have never heard of the Sabbath of the Red Heifer. It's a thing. In another mind-numbing string of coincidences - [OK, so let's all play a game where we hypothetically make up a day, like a special sabbath, and then - let's pretend that we could put our day on any date we want - to make it like it was planned or some "divine appointed day"] So the special Sabbath of the Red Heifer - turns out is 3 1/2 years from Feast of Trumpets 2020. But wait ... Wait for it. . . It's not just 3 1/2 years. I t's exactly 1260 days precisely - exactly according to the 1260 prophetic days in Daniel. Then, let's compound our game of making days land on another date, to make the coincidence even more inconceivable. So, from Feast of Trumpets/ Rosh Hoshanah 2020, to the Sabbath of the Red Heifer is 1260 days, and it's 2550 days from FOT/Rosh Hoshanah 2020 to Day of Atonement/Yom Kippur, 2027. The exact number of the two specific day counts given in Daniel and Revelation - 1260 [3 1/2 prophetic/ Hebrew years] + 1290 days = 2550 days. But it's not just that the total number of days equals 2550 days -[ that in itself is amazing] - but the astounding thing is that it's the exact number of these specific day counts, from Feast of Trumpets to Sabbath of the Red Heifer, and then the second exact set of days, 1290 days from the Sabbath of the Red Heifer to Day of Atonement - 2027. What are the odds?? Aside from the fact that it's stunningly accurate - to the exact day, what's even more significant is that Day of Atonement is seen and understood by Jews everywhere to be the day of Judgment, - when God gives the sentence and the day that the Door of heaven is shut. [It's the 10th of Tishri, and there are 7 days in between FOT and Day of Atonement.] I love how Dr Barry Awe says it. "The 7 days of Awe, become 7 years of Awe. Then, it's even more astounding, because Day of Atonement, 2550 days from FOT, 2020 would be the 6th Feast to be fulfilled in perfect order and perfect precision, and the 7th one is already written - we know when and how it is fulfilled, It's when all the nations of the earth, celebrate the Feast of Booths - He Tabernacles with US in the 4th Temple/ Millennial reign, as prophesied in Zechariah. hey now... but seriously. I need to ask what I believe is a pertinent question: Are the 1260 day count you refer to and the 2550 day count you refer to starting in 2020, the only times where this day count occurs? Or does it occur every year? That is, if one were to do a day count from FoT 2021 or 2017 or 1937, would one still get that many days to the feast days you mention? If not, I believe you may be on to something significant. If so, I believe you may be on to something significant also. Just not the same kind of significance. |
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Post by yardstick on Sept 13, 2020 16:59:08 GMT -6
Here's a little more I found on the Sabbath of the Red Heifer... www.hebcal.com/holidays/shabbat-parahIt takes place every year right before Passover so that the people are purified for Passover. Thanks, Natalie. I just think that the exact timing, the numbers, the precision, the odds, - i mean, it's just mind-blowing. It would be amazing just if the total days added up to 2550. I think any rational, open-minded person would pause and say "Wow, there is something here that warrants a second look". But the fact that we have the exact match of day count from Feast of Trumpets/Rosh Hoshanah this year to the Sabbath of the red heifer =1260 days is way beyond coincidence. Then, in a way that can only be divine planning and like some Great Cosmic God Calendar, there are 1290 days from the red heifer to the Day of Atonement. Pastor Toney said that he tried putting the numbers in for multiple years out and nothing else works. I believe you should check these counts to see if they happen annually, or just this year. Because 2550/360 (or 365) = approximately 7 years. |
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Post by yardstick on Sept 13, 2020 17:02:09 GMT -6
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Post by disciple4life on Sept 13, 2020 19:04:49 GMT -6
yardstick, Hello my brother, I didn't articulate it clearly [That's the Otter] but here's what I understand - that makes this year the year, or why at least so many watchmen and end times teachers are all saying the same thing. This is based on the chart and numbers from the above video by Pastor Jerry Toney, and also the other video with all the blood moons and solar eclipses. This is why I was asking yardstick about the odds/ probabilities. He (pastor Toney) said that he tried and plugged the dates into the date calculator, for at least 5 years out, and the numbers don't work. What i mean is - this year 2020 - 2027, From Feast of Trumpets to Sabbath of the Red Heifer is exactly the same as the Day count given in Daniel =1260 days, which is 3 1/2 Hebrew or Prophetic years, and when we consider that this year FOT is on a Sabbath. That by itself is amazing. Then, we have the second ginormous coincidence - in that we have the second half or second 3 1/2 year period, but even more amazing is that it is exactly to the day, - the same as the second day count given in Daniel 1290 days, right to Day of Atonement in 2027. So we have two halves of the seventieth week, which starts on a sabbath, and then we have this special sabbath at the mid point - 1260 days, and then the 1290 days - second half of the tribulation. Next year, the numbers don't work add up, nor the next, nor the next after that. I'm not sure how far out one has to go for these numbers to work out perfectly. But the staggering odds, are compounded by the fact that Feast of Trumpets is the very next one that in on the Calendar that has to be fulfilled [3 Fall Feasts - Feast of Trumpets- 5th Feast, Day of Atonement/Yom Kippur - 6th Feast, and Sukkot/Feast of Booths -7th Feast] and in this 7 year block 2020 - 2027 there are 3 Solar eclipses in the first half (3 1/2 year period) and 3 Blood moons [total lunar eclipses] then, as if pre-ordained by God in the second half, there are exactly 3 more solar eclipses, and 3 more super blood moons. ] In 2017, with the Revelation 12 Sign, we did not have this level of precision with blood moons and solar eclipses, and Feast of Trumpets was not on a sabbath, and from Feast of Trumpets to the Sabbath of the Red Heifer, it didn't match the day count of 1260 days prophesied in Daniel. I now God is a God of incredible order and precision and scripture says that he gave us the sun, moon and stars for signs. So how can we have a scenario where the numbers don't line up and we have the rapture next year, or 2022? We just didn't have anything close in terms of all the converging signs in 2017 that we have now. Passover is totally out, and Pentecost is out. Why?? Pentecost is the First Trump, and there is no trumpet connected with Passover. While not everyone agrees that the Last Trumpet is 1st of Tishri/ Feast of Trumpets, but there are no credible Bible scholars anywhere to my knowledge saying that the "Last Trumpet" is at Passover. Nor are there any, to my knowledge saying that Pentecost is the Last Trumpet. For thousands of years, Jews have understood that the two rams horns are signs which represent something else. The Left horn of the ram is considered to be the First Trumpet, and represents the receiving of the law at Sinai - and the right horn of the ram is considered the Last Trumpet, which heralds the Messiah. WOW!! I hope and pray and watch with great joy and excitement, for the rapture to be this year. If not - I have lost nothing, but learned more and grown more in my understanding, and will be watching to see how I can join God where He is working around me.
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Post by Natalie on Sept 13, 2020 19:43:22 GMT -6
yardstick It depends on what calendar you use. Hebcal (the one that fits how Israel is celebrating now) has Passover April 22, 2024 and DOA is Oct 10, 2027, so the day count doesn't fit. You have to use Torah Calendar. It's possible that when they reinstate the Sanhedrin as being in charge and go back to how it was calculated originally, then the calendar will be different. Maybe closer to Torah Calendar. If I remember, there were similar day counts that fit 2017-2024. I don't know which calendar was used for those.
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Post by Natalie on Sept 13, 2020 19:52:13 GMT -6
disciple4life , I think that if DOA is Oct 10, 2027 it's still possible because it gives about a month for much to happen and then a strengthened covenant with many to officially kick off the 70th week. We know God could move things along rather quick. Like a flood.
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Post by disciple4life on Sept 13, 2020 22:13:25 GMT -6
Natalie, what do you mean by " it's still possible"?
Feast of Trumpets is in a week September 18th Frid even - Sept 20, Sunday evening.
I just didn't get what you mean in the last post.
D4L
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Post by yardstick on Sept 13, 2020 22:29:17 GMT -6
yardstick , Hello my brother, I didn't articulate it clearly [That's the Otter] but here's what I understand - that makes this year the year, or why at least so many watchmen and end times teachers are all saying the same thing. This is based on the chart and numbers from the above video by Pastor Jerry Toney, and also the other video with all the blood moons and solar eclipses. This is why I was asking yardstick about the odds/ probabilities. He (pastor Toney) said that he tried and plugged the dates into the date calculator, for at least 5 years out, and the numbers don't work. What i mean is - this year 2020 - 2027, From Feast of Trumpets to Sabbath of the Red Heifer is exactly the same as the Day count given in Daniel =1260 days, which is 3 1/2 Hebrew or Prophetic years, and when we consider that this year FOT is on a Sabbath. That by itself is amazing. Then, we have the second ginormous coincidence - in that we have the second half or second 3 1/2 year period, but even more amazing is that it is exactly to the day, - the same as the second day count given in Daniel 1290 days, right to Day of Atonement in 2027. So we have two halves of the seventieth week, which starts on a sabbath, and then we have this special sabbath at the mid point - 1260 days, and then the 1290 days - second half of the tribulation. Next year, the numbers don't work add up, nor the next, nor the next after that. I'm not sure how far out one has to go for these numbers to work out perfectly. But the staggering odds, are compounded by the fact that Feast of Trumpets is the very next one that in on the Calendar that has to be fulfilled [3 Fall Feasts - Feast of Trumpets- 5th Feast, Day of Atonement/Yom Kippur - 6th Feast, and Sukkot/Feast of Booths -7th Feast] and in this 7 year block 2020 - 2027 there are 3 Solar eclipses in the first half (3 1/2 year period) and 3 Blood moons [total lunar eclipses] then, as if pre-ordained by God in the second half, there are exactly 3 more solar eclipses, and 3 more super blood moons. ] In 2017, with the Revelation 12 Sign, we did not have this level of precision with blood moons and solar eclipses, and Feast of Trumpets was not on a sabbath, and from Feast of Trumpets to the Sabbath of the Red Heifer, it didn't match the day count of 1260 days prophesied in Daniel. I now God is a God of incredible order and precision and scripture says that he gave us the sun, moon and stars for signs. So how can we have a scenario where the numbers don't line up and we have the rapture next year, or 2022? We just didn't have anything close in terms of all the converging signs in 2017 that we have now. Passover is totally out, and Pentecost is out. Why?? Pentecost is the First Trump, and there is no trumpet connected with Passover. While not everyone agrees that the Last Trumpet is 1st of Tishri/ Feast of Trumpets, but there are no credible Bible scholars anywhere to my knowledge saying that the "Last Trumpet" is at Passover. Nor are there any, to my knowledge saying that Pentecost is the Last Trumpet. For thousands of years, Jews have understood that the two rams horns are signs which represent something else. The Left horn of the ram is considered to be the First Trumpet, and represents the receiving of the law at Sinai - and the right horn of the ram is considered the Last Trumpet, which heralds the Messiah. WOW!! I hope and pray and watch with great joy and excitement, for the rapture to be this year. If not - I have lost nothing, but learned more and grown more in my understanding, and will be watching to see how I can join God where He is working around me. I was just teasing a little. so probabilities are straight forward: number of times that thing A happens x number of times thing B happens x C x D... et c number of opportunities number of opportunities # # example: probability of rolling a 1 on a D6 (6-sided dice) = 1/6 probability of rolling a 1, and then rolling a 2 = 1/6 x 1/6 = 1/36 et c My question regarding the possible number of opportunities, is that there is a 19 year cycle (Metonic). How many times can this day count occur during that 19 year cycle? A/19 x B/19 x c/19 ...et c by-the-way, this calculation assumes that all events are independent of all other events. So if the frequency of the 2550 is different than the frequency of the 1260, then you would multiply them, but if not, then they are essentially the same frequency. So how many times out of 19 does the 1260 occur? How many times out of 19 years does the 2550 occur? The next 5 years as samples is not likely to be an accurate way to check. I believe each of the years of the 19 year metonic cycle should be verified. One merely needs to go back to 2001 from this year to do so. If there is not a situation where any of the prior years fits the pattern, then the guy in the video may be on to something. But I would go back 2 sets of 19 just to be sure. |
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Post by yardstick on Sept 13, 2020 22:34:34 GMT -6
yardstick It depends on what calendar you use. Hebcal (the one that fits how Israel is celebrating now) has Passover April 22, 2024 and DOA is Oct 10, 2027, so the day count doesn't fit. You have to use Torah Calendar. It's possible that when they reinstate the Sanhedrin as being in charge and go back to how it was calculated originally, then the calendar will be different. Maybe closer to Torah Calendar. If I remember, there were similar day counts that fit 2017-2024. I don't know which calendar was used for those. I am not sure which calendar should be used, but it may not matter, so long as the same calendar is used to check each of the last 19 years (metonic cycle). One would likely see the same pattern, just offset; if there is one. |
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Post by disciple4life on Sept 14, 2020 5:50:29 GMT -6
Natalie , mike , disciple4life , klb , yardstick , Is it just me, or does anyone else think that it is not like God to be unprecise or sloppy. ?? It's inconsistent with his character. In other words, I don't see a scenario where we have the rapture and these dates don't line up - unless all the feast dates, appointed times are a total fluke, or that there's no divine pattern - all just randomness. It would mean that the first four events - Passover, Unleavened bread, firstfruits and Pentecost just accidentally fell on those days, yardstick , like the odds of rolling a "3" on a dice 33 times straight in a row. For me, that's no more an option than saying the trinity is a fluke, And the only other scenario, - I'm just trying to imagine here, is that it's like Most Christians actually think [scary]  - They may agree that the first four feasts happened in perfect sequence, but "That was under the law" or before Christ came, and they disregard the 3 Future Fall Feasts as having any significance to Christians/ Not for Us -- so it's basically a version of "the total randomness model" . but this is incorrect because we know from Zechariah that the last Feast - Sukkot is for all the nations of the earth, - Jew and Gentile to be celebrated every year in the Millennial reign. (Also it becomes rather hard for these people to make the case that God is the same yesterday and today and forever. ) What am i missing??
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Post by Natalie on Sept 14, 2020 7:15:43 GMT -6
disciple4life, I just meant that the rapture could still happen on FOT this year if hebcal is the right calendar. The count using Torahcalendar assumes that Daniel's 70th week starts on FOT also. Using hebcal, it would start about a month later. I will say that I haven't watched the video yet; last week got busy here for me. 
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Beuuuuller?? 
- They may agree that the first four feasts happened in perfect sequence, but "That was under the law" or before Christ came, and they disregard the 3 Future Fall Feasts as having any significance to Christians/ Not for Us -- so it's basically a version of "the total randomness model" . 