9/23/17: The Great Sign Thread

So it sounds like you don't believe that Christ will reign on the throne of David.

I'm pretty sure America is going to be a barren wasteland with hardly a soul alive within just a few short years. Could be wrong.

Well when you look in revelations 13 you see the Saints are overcome. And that's scripture.

Yes Jim. You know this is a test right? Spiritual warfare.

BTW, that Michael Heiser(?) did a great YouTube on the verse "all Israel is not Israel".  I was looking through the list of YouTube suggestions on one of the threads for him, and saw the headline out to the right and moved over to it instead. Thought it to be really really mind straightening.

In my first post in this thread, I described how the GREAT SIGN is wholly dependent on all of its related prophetic utterances. It is deliberately woven into the fabric of the total prophetic stream, and dependent on it's alignment with the "5th" in the series of 7 set time festivals.

In this post, I expand on this theme.

From my first post it by necessity moved into the larger body of supporting prophecy. Although it is not necessary to know where the Sons of Joseph, or the rest of the House of Israel is at the beginning of the Apocalypse, it is impossible to support a position that rejects their presence at the end of it. The sign itself demands our acceptance of the fact that Israel is extant in our presence daily; as the sign would be meaningless without the 9 fixed stellar objects continually associated with the sign. Once again, the addition of the HOUSE OF JUDAH, the three transients, make the sign and it's meaning complete, fulfilling a larger body of related prophecy.

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watchfortheday.org/manchild.html

Dr. Gene Scott, final pastor who spoke from the pulpit at Church of the Open door in downtown Los Angeles jesussavessign.blogspot.com/ (before the building was condemned after an earthquake), also claimed to have read every significant theological tome written since the reformation. The difference being, many more significant books were published in the previous 150 years since the time some of the greatest bible scholars gave us their work. On Presidents Day 2005, at age 75, Dr. Scott's body failed due to cancer, leaving his pastorate and vast Library to his widow.

As a comparison to the work of Ironside and others, Dr. Scott never came down conclusively on the status of the Man Child, stating only that, the church (ekklesia in his mind) was not the one who gave birth to messiah, hence, the meaning he gave the child remained as something that was meant to be understood in final fulfillment.

The theological tapestry that is being woven here, and was presented by Ironside and others, and now our host Daniel, has at this point more color added to it now that we know how the heavens will play out this coming Trumpets/Atonement season. In the past, no one understood how the transients would act as fulfilling elements of the sign.

Hidden from our view; until the time Our God added to our visual capacity, the technology to see the roll out of the sign; was how the transient stars inter-played with other associated stellar bodies.

As a absolute point of reference, the occurrence of the signage close to Trumpets/Atonement makes it's reoccurrence mathematically impossible. The sign has no significance outside the fulfilling the these important "Set Times" festivals. The sign could not be fulfilled before the Law was given, and after this season, fulfillment will never again be necessary. Messiah is not going to make atonement again, nor will the Ekklesia ever again need to be captured away to safety.

In the case of this sign, and of it's fulfillment,

CONTEXT IS EVERYTHING!

It's occurrence is valid only within it's finite prophetic stream.
Once completed, it serves as a Point Of Faith for all future viewers.

As has been the case with all of the commentators I have ever read or listened to, they do not understand the overarching context of the scripture, the conclusive theme, the infinite theme that runs throughout; the significance of Israel applied to the calculus of understanding this sign, and all other prophetic signs for that matter.

ISRAEL IS NOT JUDAH!!!
The EKKLESIA IS ISRAEL

What this should change in the minds of all commentators, is how the text throughout demands the presence of Israel, (as the Sons of Joseph) the 10 tribes at the time when the power transition occurs, during, and at the end of the apocalypse. In fulfillment of prophecy, The English have already walked back to the Mediterranean Levant with Judah, to open it up for them to settle. The English are the western placement of the birthright sons of Joseph. And, David's throne is also planted there permanently. Messiah will reign from the temple in Jerusalem, the descendants of David will reign from London. As prophesied in Genesis 49, the vine of Joseph will climb over the wall. When they did, the below countries came into existence.
USA
Canada
Australia
New Zealand
and a lot of Islands hailing to the throne in England, and a smaller group under the umbrella of America.
Now that is a REALLY BIG batch of territory folks, and accumulated is the largest territory under one language
group.

Now the USA contains all of the Tribes, including Judah, and a whole lot of Levites, as these guys are God's
hidden hand in carrying out His Gospel.

The other major Israelite territories are where....
Zebulan,, (The Dutch of the Netherlands) moved to South Africa.
Dan, up in Denmark (Dansmark) and in Southern Ireland.
Ruben in most of Germany, but mixed with Edomites in the east.
The Spanish, who are a mixture of Israelites, and control most of South and Central America.
And then there was the French, and other western Euro countries who expanded outward
temporarily and are also parts of Scattered Israel, as prophesied in Hosea, Deuteronomy by Moses, etc..

The Woman is carrying Israel, because the Woman is Israel. Judah is not carrying Israel. Nor has she ever done so. Judah, and all Jacobs family were rescued by Joseph. And that is the way it is now. America has freed all of them from the hordes of satanic government, with more freedom to come.

Israel is the Ekklesia of the Father. Chosen by God from the foundations of the world, to carry blessing to all Adam's offspring. And yes! The Gospel of the Father, the story of the atoning work of Christ delivered directly into our space, has been carried by us to every corner of this earth.

What can I say...
Lost in translation?
No!
The arm of The Lord revealed,
Expressed upon the head of him that was separated from his brethren, Hidden until the day judgement begins.
For in the day the arrows afflicted us, we prevailed by the hand of our God.

This sign is the sign of Joseph, the Arm of the Lord revealed after having been hidden since the days
Solomon enslaved them, causing them stumble. Did not Judah cause Joseph to disappear from the 11 brothers, his father and mother?
Judah did it again through Solomon. What a pervert he turned out to be. Small wonder why God Cursed Judah
more than he did Israel. Judah (Aholabah) caught hell in FAR GREATER portion than did Ephraim and Manasseh.

The Woman fulfills the prophetic type of Ahola remarried to God through Messiah, their KINSMAN, and their redeemer. She is also the Barren Woman of Isaiah 54, the target of Isaiah 53.
From where was Messiah called? From Nazaret in the north! Not from the corrupted territory of Judea! What a mess Jesus stepped into, that place where the temple was.

Look folks,,,,
The Israelites; scattered throughout western Europe and the Isles to the north (England) have been kicking the doors of hell in since the beginning of the Renaissance!
With the American Revolution, the gates of hell began to crumble on a worldwide scale.

We fell upon Our Rock.
We were broken.
But woe to the ones upon whom Our Rock will fall.

Charie and Ed