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Post by findtruth on Jun 14, 2017 19:29:58 GMT -6
I believe that God has given us his holy scripture, the 66 books of the bible, and these books are inspired by God. We should not add or take away from what God has given us. I know that the Catholics have more books that they consider holy scripture. I also realize that when the men who were inspired by God to pick which books should be considered inspired holy scripture, that God has directed these men into the truth of what books are the truly the inspired word of God. I am interested in your thoughts, plus information on the history of how this came to be. Why do the Catholics have more books? I copied my response from another thread. I am very interested in this topic. Read more: unsealed.boards.net/thread/246/pope-francis-says-holy-spirit#ixzz4k1viEBZw |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2017 20:20:03 GMT -6
I've done a light study on the so-called apocryphal/deuterocanonical books. Essentially, here it goes: after prophetic inspiration ceased, after Malachi, there were still many Jewish writings created during the time between the Testaments. These writings are uninspired; by comparing them to known inspired literature, we know this. 1 Maccabees even admits this, saying that there were no prophets during this time at 9:24. They have many errors ( Judith, for example, has King Nebuchadnezzar of Assyria, instead of Babylon). They were only accepted by the Catholic Church at the Council of Trent, 1546. Here's a link: carm.org/reasons-why-apocrypha-does-not-belong-bible. They are decent to read, 1 Maccabees has my slight respect, but don't treat them as inspired, and read with caution. I wouldn't even bother unless you are rooted deeply in the Sciptures. I don't normally read them. Talk to gary777 for apocryphal book explainations. |
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Post by watchmanjim on Jun 14, 2017 21:01:14 GMT -6
I pretty much agree. I believe the 66 books all belong, and the apocryphal books are like you say--possibly useful for some historical and cultural reference, but not trustworthy. I also see other historical works, such as those of Josephus, in the same category.
One thing that has bolstered my faith in the 66 books is the study of numerology. The 66 books have multiple patterns in them. I believe the books, their order within the Bible, and even their chapters and sometimes their verse numbers have evidence to point us to the integrity of the 66-book Bible. I may start a numerology thread somewhere. I think we can all recognize that numbers like 7 and 12 have a significance to God, and I have found that all numbers, especially the lower ones, have particularly important meanings that give us clues as to enhanced meanings in the passage.
The Old Testament has 39 books, all in sets of 5 or 12. 5+12+5+5+12. This is not by accident. It's also 27+12. The New Testament is 27 books. 4+1+14+7+1.
Isaiah has 66 chapters, and the more you dig, the more you can see how many, if not all of them, have an important connection to the book of the Bible that it represents. For instance, 66 ties easily to Revelation, particularly the Revelation 12 passage that is now shown to be so important to us today. Isaiah 40 ties easily to Matthew. You can also see a definite change in tone beginning at chapter 40--Book 40 being the first book of the New Testament.
The last in a set of 12 always seems to have a major life and death crisis, and/or has a curse associated with it, just as Benjamin, the 12th son, is associated with a curse. Judas, the 12th disciple, definitely has a curse. Esther, the 12th book, is about Mordecai and Esther (both Benjamites) who have a major life-and-death crisis that is avoided and a curse averted. The last word of Malachai is "curse."
Daniel, the 27th book of the Old Testament, lines up hand-in-glove with Revelation, the 27th book of the New Testament.
These and many other symbolic numeric meanings show me how I can trust the 66 books of the Scripture. Plus, there are the original tests the canon committee put on the books, and they had to pass those tests as well.
Any other books considered for canon should be put to the tests.
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Post by findtruth on Jun 15, 2017 16:26:33 GMT -6
www.khouse.org/articles/1996/44/This is a facinating article. This shows one example of how the scripture has hidden messages and meanings within the text . This is just one proof of how the scripture is truth.
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Post by watchmanjim on Jun 15, 2017 19:03:33 GMT -6
Yes, the Bible is FULL of that kind of thing.
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