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Post by socalexile on Jul 30, 2017 21:04:13 GMT -6
Not a huge fan of his clickbait titles, but this is chilling:
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Post by yardstick on Jul 31, 2017 8:17:07 GMT -6
Yep, over-hyped click-bait fear-mongering. More true in some ways and less true in others, though.
Get the Word out. Leave as few behind as possible.
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Post by tiffanybw on Aug 2, 2017 8:26:23 GMT -6
I agree with you about the clickbait titles and the fear mongering. It's my opinion that there are those of us who belong to Jesus and are watchmen. Then there are those (maybe saved, maybe not), but they are more in it for the attention that they garner to themselves, concerned more with how many overall views they get rather than being concerned with truly sharing Christ who is our ONLY way out of this mess! I call them (Jason A and people like him of which there are many) "doom junkies". Now, I'm not saying whether or not he is saved, or if they are saved... the many out there whom I consider to be literally addicted to potential doom scenarios. It could even be a good thing for those who don't know Christ as their Savior, because in spending so much time researching apocalyptic scenarios one is almost certainly going to come upon prophesy, what is foretold in the Bible, Jesus Christ. Because of it they hopefully will call upon Him. Or if they don't, they are going to have a VERY good idea as to just what is going on once the Rapture happens; will immediately give their hearts and lives to Jesus, and be saved.
So yeah, I'm not a huge fan of Jason A's channel. But I do think at times it is good for bringing certain world issues into light. World issues that MSM and even alternative media would ignore.
About the topic of this one, indeed, very creepy. And if I weren't saved I'd be scared out of my mind. So I'm ok. I guess what does scare me about it is that I am afraid my family or my loved ones whose salvation I am uncertain about, just that I am very worried for them (praying constantly lately for all of them and asking Jesus the best way to share with them).
My thoughts on this video:
For a long while now, I've always thought that the mark of the beast would be more than just a microchip. Definitely I think it could be implemented that way, that people have something injected into them; something foreign, maybe genetic, something not human, and some sort of artificial intelligence that once implanted will go throughout the body and change the complete DNA of the person to where the person will literally no longer be human and no longer made in God's Image. I believe that this "mark" is why the Bible refers to these times and the times to come "as in the days of Noah" (won't get too far into it but because of watchers who made wives of the daughters of men and due to that the human bloodline was completely corrupted; Noah and his family being the only ones that were not corrupted genetically). I also believe that this is why once any human takes the mark there is no going back, no changing one's mind, no calling upon the Lord to save you. Quite literally, genetically speaking, the person's DNA will no longer be human. They will be "other". Jesus and His Sacrifice will not apply to them.
In addition, and I'm sorry if it seems crazy and way out there... But I believe that just as God will seal the people who turn to Him during the tribulation, in the same way God has sealed us who believe in Christ with The Holy Spirit. The moment we accepted Him as Lord and Savior we were sealed and NO ONE, NOTHING can ever take us from His Hand (this for us because we live in The Age of Grace which is soon coming to an end). Now, I think on a scientific level (I can't prove it but it's just what the Lord has put upon my heart), that when we accept Jesus as Lord and Savior that something in our DNA literally changes, we are marked by Him to show that we belong to Him and are His for eternity.
Putting the above in perspective with Scotty's research and the videos he has done on you tube... Right now we are in the womb. We have been "conceived" but we are not yet truly "born again". The same as a fetus is a living person though, we are living and belong to Him. When Jesus comes for us the dead in Christ shall rise first. Then we who are alive upon the earth will follow. Once we are "born", meaning once we get to Heaven and stand before Him; it's my belief that He will literally *change* us (giving us our eternal and glorified bodies, the EXACT SAME body that He already has now and has had since he was resurrected). It is beyond exciting to think about!!! But... our DNA will be JUST LIKE His! We ARE His Body after all! We are a part of Him (not quite yet as we haven't been "born"; so not quite perfect yet and it's only His Perfect Incorrupt Blood (DNA) given to us and then marked by The Holy Spirit... maybe kind of like the amniotic fluid the baby is in, breathes in and out, and completely nourished and taken care of by mom until born... so we are just like that and He takes care of us! When a baby is born, I don't know what happens exactly, but that baby no longer breathes amniotic fluid but breathes air. (Side note: I was researching the other day and do you know that for those of us who are mothers, we carry with us FOREVER the DNA of our children from our pregnancies. It's true and once I'm done writing this book I'll go look for the link again.) Anyways... We are His and He is Ours FOREVER!!!!
The more I think about it, the more amazing it is! Because think of how a baby is when first born. Then how much they learn so fast just within their first year of life. Then childhood, pre-teen, teenager, young adult, so on and so forth. We here on earth can see so little of what life is really all about, of what God has in store for us! We are just like a baby in the womb and we have NO IDEA what it is like "outside the womb". We will be with Him, being taught by Him, learning from Him, ruling and reigning with Him FOREVER!!!
Ok. So now for the bad part. Think of Satan and who Satan is. He used to be the most beautiful angel in Heaven, held in the highest of esteem. Until he decided that "he was the highest", even higher than Yahweh God who created him. Satan is the antithesis of God, yet he also mimics God, copies God except twists it around into everything that God is NOT. He is the most evil, the most hateful, basically the most horrible parent anyone could ever possibly imagine having. He cares about NOTHING but himself. He does not "love" those who follow him. Not those who know they are following and worshiping him. And not those who are following him by default because they choose to reject Jesus. Satan wants to BE God.
It's why that once he is cast down from Heaven (after trying to destroy and consume us, the male child), he will physically take over someone else's body (can be sure that person will not know Jesus as it would not be possible if they did); and that person will be the anti-Christ. In reading Revelations 12, just so happens that 1/3 of the "stars" are cast down with the dragon... so, cast down with Satan and I believe it is the same 1/3 of the angels who chose to rebel against God with Satan that is told to us back in Genesis. The earth and those on it are IN FOR IT.
Because Satan wants to be God, he is going to imitate God as he already has a million times before. The Holy Spirit at this point is gone and the world is ripe for deception and I imagine it will be so easy for him. He will proclaim himself God, and people will believe him. He will be the "head", as Christ is our Head. Those who receive the mark of the beast, I believe that they will be his "body". He is going to mark them and they are going to voluntarily and with their own free will choose Satan and the mark of the beast. And just as we are of Christ, right down to our DNA... they will be of Satan. Right down to their DNA which will be changed to be like his. Made in Satan's image. The image of the beast.
Head and body. No turning back or changing your mind. Satan's slave for eternity. It's why they will cry for death and none will come. It's why when they see Jesus coming with us in the clouds, they will blaspheme His Name, and no matter what they will not repent.
As for this video, I think that the mark of the beast will also make it so that everyone who has the mark will be able to communicate with each other just by thinking, will know where each other is location wise, maybe all will be able to hear and see what just one hears and sees, maybe if one feels pain they all will. I'm not sure. Only that I think they will be a part of one "whole" that is Satan. Satan can not "create" anything and so I believe that is where all this technology in this video will play in. Not to mention all of the other sick things mankind is doing on earth right now... genetic manipulation, creating hybrid creatures, creating a baby from the genetics of 3 humans, and it goes on and on. He's got thousands of his minions down here right now helping him by bringing all of this stuff about (and they've been working on it for him since the beginning; those who choose to follow him have anyway).
I'm sure I'm not right about all of it. But those are my thoughts and what The Holy Spirit has led me to believe through studying His Word, through listening to Scottie Clarke and his awesome research. Definitely not saying I am 100% right. But God is so amazing and I can see Him using His Church, all of us, iron sharpening iron, what is revealed to one person and then shared, then another person studies His Word and more is revealed to that person and it goes on and on. We serve an AWESOME God!
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Post by mike on Aug 2, 2017 9:22:10 GMT -6
Interesting take Tiffanybw. I did not watch the video but have some similar thoughts about the mark, being some form of DNA change, making those who take it no longer redeemable as they are no longer fully human. The entire creation is groaning, from the earth to the sun, to mankind, etc., etc., etc.
Romans 8 19 For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God. 20 For the creature was made subject to vanity, not willingly, but by reason of him who hath subjected [the same] in hope, 21 Because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God. 22 For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now. 23 And not only [they], but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, [to wit], the redemption of our body.
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Post by kjs on Aug 2, 2017 9:43:08 GMT -6
The unpardonable/unforgivable sin or “blasphemy of the Holy Spirit” is mentioned in Mark 3:22–30 and Matthew 12:22–32. Jesus said, “Truly I tell you, people can be forgiven all their sins and every slander they utter” (Mark 3:28), but then He gives one exception: “Whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit will never be forgiven; they are guilty of an eternal sin” (verse 29).
Based on these verses; then it appears that “the taking of the mark” – should be forgivable – but we are told specifically it is not. The question then becomes – Why not? What makes taking the “mark” unforgivable?
The theory you laid out – the mark causes a change in the DNA – which makes them Non-Human – offers a very real and plausible explanation on why taking the MARK – will make the participant; unforgivable before God – because Jesus paid the price for Humans – not Hybrids.
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The first time I heard Scotty’s theory of the “Body of Christ” is only conceived at this point and not actually “Born Again” – I rejected it; because it seemed a form of heresy. After all, we are told that we are baptized into Christ – the moment we believe.
Romans 6:3 Or don’t you know that all of us who were baptized into union with the Messiah Jesus were baptized into his death? 4 Therefore, through baptism we were buried with him into his death so that, just as the Messiah was raised from the dead by the Father’s glory, we too may live an entirely new life. 5 For if we have become united with him in a death like his, we will certainly also be united with him in a resurrection like his.
But the theory is growing on me. I am not ready to say that is indeed how things stand now – but I am l closer to accepting it than I first was.
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Post by tiffanybw on Aug 2, 2017 10:23:46 GMT -6
The unpardonable/unforgivable sin or “blasphemy of the Holy Spirit” is mentioned in Mark 3:22–30 and Matthew 12:22–32. Jesus said, “Truly I tell you, people can be forgiven all their sins and every slander they utter” (Mark 3:28), but then He gives one exception: “Whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit will never be forgiven; they are guilty of an eternal sin” (verse 29). Based on these verses; then it appears that “the taking of the mark” – should be forgivable – but we are told specifically it is not. The question then becomes – Why not? What makes taking the “mark” unforgivable? The theory you laid out – the mark causes a change in the DNA – which makes them Non-Human – offers a very real and plausible explanation on why taking the MARK – will make the participant; unforgivable before God – because Jesus paid the price for Humans – not Hybrids. =========== The first time I heard Scotty’s theory of the “Body of Christ” is only conceived at this point and not actually “Born Again” – I rejected it; because it seemed a form of heresy. After all, we are told that we are baptized into Christ – the moment we believe. Romans 6:3 Or don’t you know that all of us who were baptized into union with the Messiah Jesus were baptized into his death? 4 Therefore, through baptism we were buried with him into his death so that, just as the Messiah was raised from the dead by the Father’s glory, we too may live an entirely new life. 5 For if we have become united with him in a death like his, we will certainly also be united with him in a resurrection like his.But the theory is growing on me. I am not ready to say that is indeed how things stand now – but I am l closer to accepting it than I first was. What I think, is that life begins at conception for a baby. A baby is just as alive before birth and in his/her mother's womb as he/she is after birth. It's the world who does not want to admit that and so they go about murdering God's Children. But that baby is just as alive as you or me! I can't link it but I watched a video a few months back that showed the moment of conception and there is this bright flash of light when it happens. At that moment, there is life. I believe it was a scientific study that was done that they found this flash of light at conception (not sure though). It is the same when we accept Christ as Lord and Savior and are indwelt by The Holy Spirit. I just looked online really quick; read Romans 8. Those who do not have Christ are dead already. But once we accept Him, The Holy Spirit is within us. Our flesh is still dead but our spirit is alive. Romans 8:10 "And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness."
We, the Body of Christ, we are alive also! He is just as much ours now as He will be when we go to Heaven. We are just as alive now as we will be when we get to Heaven! Only difference is our location. Right now we live on a fallen and corrupt earth. But, right now we live! Because of The Holy Spirit Jesus has sent us! Once we get to Heaven though, it will also be physical. We will no longer be at odds with our "flesh" because He will make us perfect, just as He is now.  |
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Post by whatif on Aug 2, 2017 12:50:25 GMT -6
Putting the above in perspective with Scotty's research and the videos he has done on you tube... Right now we are in the womb. We have been "conceived" but we are not yet truly "born again". The same as a fetus is a living person though, we are living and belong to Him. Excellent post, tiffanybw--so much great information and insight there!
One thing I've been thinking about in regards to the portion I quoted here from your post is that the horrific persecution of Christians going on in our world is a little like the world's attempt at abortion... trying to kill the baby before it is born...
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Post by whatif on Aug 2, 2017 13:12:50 GMT -6
The unpardonable/unforgivable sin or “blasphemy of the Holy Spirit” is mentioned in Mark 3:22–30 and Matthew 12:22–32. Jesus said, “Truly I tell you, people can be forgiven all their sins and every slander they utter” (Mark 3:28), but then He gives one exception: “Whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit will never be forgiven; they are guilty of an eternal sin” (verse 29). Based on these verses; then it appears that “the taking of the mark” – should be forgivable – but we are told specifically it is not. The question then becomes – Why not? What makes taking the “mark” unforgivable? I know the subject of the unpardonable sin is a very frightening subject, and questions about what it might be all too often scare people into thinking they might have committed it (I was one of those in my young years), so with that in mind and in concern to not derail this thread with a complicated conversation about what the verse means, I just want to ask a question specifically related to the concept of how it might relate to the mark of the beast.
I was just wondering if the mark of the beast is exactly what this verse is pointing to...? After all, we believers are sealed with the Holy Spirit and forever in the Lord's hands and being shaped by Him into His likeness. Those who follow the antichrist... will they be sealed by the spirit of the Enemy of Souls and thus be forever in his hands as they are shaped into his evil likeness? That could certainly be connected in part to the DNA changes suggested, as they may become something other than human. But spiritually speaking, it seems that the antichrist's seal--the mark of the beast--is a direct opposite of the Lord's sealing by the Holy Spirit.
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Post by yardstick on Aug 2, 2017 13:26:45 GMT -6
...For a long while now, I've always thought that the mark of the beast would be more than just a microchip. Definitely I think it could be implemented that way, that people have something injected into them; something foreign, maybe genetic, something not human, and some sort of artificial intelligence that once implanted will go throughout the body and change the complete DNA of the person to where the person will literally no longer be human and no longer made in God's Image. I believe that this "mark" is why the Bible refers to these times and the times to come "as in the days of Noah" (won't get too far into it but because of watchers who made wives of the daughters of men and due to that the human bloodline was completely corrupted; Noah and his family being the only ones that were not corrupted genetically). I also believe that this is why once any human takes the mark there is no going back, no changing one's mind, no calling upon the Lord to save you. Quite literally, genetically speaking, the person's DNA will no longer be human. They will be "other". Jesus and His Sacrifice will not apply to them... In addition, and I'm sorry if it seems crazy and way out there... But I believe that just as God will seal the people who turn to Him during the tribulation, in the same way God has sealed us who believe in Christ with The Holy Spirit. The moment we accepted Him as Lord and Savior we were sealed and NO ONE, NOTHING can ever take us from His Hand (this for us because we live in The Age of Grace which is soon coming to an end). Now, I think on a scientific level (I can't prove it but it's just what the Lord has put upon my heart), that when we accept Jesus as Lord and Savior that something in our DNA literally changes, we are marked by Him to show that we belong to Him and are His for eternity. ... Once we are "born", meaning once we get to Heaven and stand before Him; it's my belief that He will literally *change* us (giving us our eternal and glorified bodies, the EXACT SAME body that He already has now and has had since he was resurrected)... our DNA will be JUST LIKE His!... Ok. So now for the bad part. Think of Satan and who Satan is. He used to be the most beautiful angel in Heaven, held in the highest of esteem. Until he decided that "he was the highest", even higher than Yahweh God who created him. Satan is the antithesis of God, yet he also mimics God, copies God except twists it around into everything that God is NOT. He is the most evil, the most hateful, basically the most horrible parent anyone could ever possibly imagine having. He cares about NOTHING but himself. He does not "love" those who follow him. Not those who know they are following and worshiping him. And not those who are following him by default because they choose to reject Jesus. Satan wants to BE God. It's why that once he is cast down from Heaven (after trying to destroy and consume us, the male child), he will physically take over someone else's body (can be sure that person will not know Jesus as it would not be possible if they did); and that person will be the anti-Christ... ...In reading Revelations 12, just so happens that 1/3 of the "stars" are cast down with the dragon... Because Satan wants to be God, he is going to imitate God as he already has a million times before. The Holy Spirit at this point is gone and the world is ripe for deception and I imagine it will be so easy for him. He will proclaim himself God, and people will believe him. He will be the "head", as Christ is our Head. Those who receive the mark of the beast, I believe that they will be his "body". He is going to mark them and they are going to voluntarily and with their own free will choose Satan and the mark of the beast. And just as we are of Christ, right down to our DNA... they will be of Satan. Right down to their DNA which will be changed to be like his. Made in Satan's image. The image of the beast. 1. Since Satan is a counterfeiter, it totally would make sense that he wants man to conform to his image. This includes, but I do not believe is limited to: - a plan to genetically alter angels to allow them dominion: Angel theory of nephilim, gene splicing in humans to make them domiciles for angels, (i am sure there could be several more)...
- a plan to genetically alter humans to disallow them dominion (this may be the mark)...
2. There have been a few loose end hypotheses that have been bouncing around in my head, that I would like to share. These are the sorts of things that I have no data or evidence to back up, they are just hunches, or insights and they may not be accurate or correct:
- Satan's pride is fueled by jealousy and/or envy. He thinks he is better than humans are. He either does not realize (or does not accept) that angels were created to have a different role than humans.
- Satan's rebellion, due to item (a) is to try to wrestle away God's Creation from God, to show God that Satan is correct, that angels are better than humans, and to flagrantly demonstrate that we are not worthy of dominion, and that God made a mistake not giving angels dominion as his first creations.
3. That the Holy Spirit sealing believers alters their DNA in a way that cannot be observed is a fascinating hypothesis; and fits nicely with the flash of light in the womb description you also gave. I would suggest that such a DNA change might take us from 4 dimensional beings, to 10-dimensionally-capable beings. The completion of the transformation would not occur til we are with Jesus. It also would not be scientifically observable, because our scientific method can only deal with 4 dimensions! All other calculations are purely theoretical. They cannot be 'real'-ized.
4. Interestingly, the passage in Rev 12:3 says it was the dragon's tail that swept 1/3 of the stars from the heavens...
5. Hypothetically, if the mark genetically alters a human, it may also cause the human to release a pheromone that can be smelled. So it would be really easy for the 'pit crickets' to find someone with the mark to torment. There would be no place to hide! Your 'scent' gives you away!
Anyhow, great post!
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Post by yardstick on Aug 2, 2017 13:35:24 GMT -6
The unpardonable/unforgivable sin or “blasphemy of the Holy Spirit” is mentioned in Mark 3:22–30 and Matthew 12:22–32. Jesus said, “Truly I tell you, people can be forgiven all their sins and every slander they utter” (Mark 3:28), but then He gives one exception: “Whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit will never be forgiven; they are guilty of an eternal sin” (verse 29). Based on these verses; then it appears that “the taking of the mark” – should be forgivable – but we are told specifically it is not. The question then becomes – Why not? What makes taking the “mark” unforgivable? I know the subject of the unpardonable sin is a very frightening subject, and questions about what it might be all too often scare people into thinking they might have committed it (I was one of those in my young years), so with that in mind and in concern to not derail this thread with a complicated conversation about what the verse means, I just want to ask a question specifically related to the concept of how it might relate to the mark of the beast.
I was just wondering if the mark of the beast is exactly what this verse is pointing to...? After all, we believers are sealed with the Holy Spirit and forever in the Lord's hands and being shaped by Him into His likeness. Those who follow the antichrist... will they be sealed by the spirit of the Enemy of Souls and thus be forever in his hands as they are shaped into his evil likeness? That could certainly be connected in part to the DNA changes suggested, as they may become something other than human. But spiritually speaking, it seems that the antichrist's seal--the mark of the beast--is a direct opposite of the Lord's sealing by the Holy Spirit.
I would start by asking some questions to create a baseline: 1. What is blasphemy? merriam-websters online dictionary says (in part): "...the act of insulting or showing contempt or lack of reverence for God" But in the case of blaspheming against the Holy Spirit, I would change the definition to: "the act of insulting or showing contempt or lack of reverence for the Holy Spirit (of God)" 2. What is it to insult, show contempt, or lack of reverence for the Holy Spirit (of God)? In what way is that done? If we can understand the mechanics of blaspheming the Holy Spirit, I believe we can deduce an answer to the question of "What makes taking the mark unforgivable?" Is it the ultimate rejection of God by siding with Satan? Is it the exhibition of the maximum amount of pride possible for an individual to explicitly, willfully, side with the enemy; and by doing so, essentially claim that Satan is right and God is wrong? |
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Post by kjs on Aug 2, 2017 14:37:13 GMT -6
The unpardonable/unforgivable sin or “blasphemy of the Holy Spirit” is mentioned in Mark 3:22–30 and Matthew 12:22–32. Jesus said, “Truly I tell you, people can be forgiven all their sins and every slander they utter” (Mark 3:28), but then He gives one exception: “Whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit will never be forgiven; they are guilty of an eternal sin” (verse 29). Based on these verses; then it appears that “the taking of the mark” – should be forgivable – but we are told specifically it is not. The question then becomes – Why not? What makes taking the “mark” unforgivable? I know the subject of the unpardonable sin is a very frightening subject, and questions about what it might be all too often scare people into thinking they might have committed it (I was one of those in my young years), so with that in mind and in concern to not derail this thread with a complicated conversation about what the verse means, I just want to ask a question specifically related to the concept of how it might relate to the mark of the beast.
I was just wondering if the mark of the beast is exactly what this verse is pointing to...? After all, we believers are sealed with the Holy Spirit and forever in the Lord's hands and being shaped by Him into His likeness. Those who follow the antichrist... will they be sealed by the spirit of the Enemy of Souls and thus be forever in his hands as they are shaped into his evil likeness? That could certainly be connected in part to the DNA changes suggested, as they may become something other than human. But spiritually speaking, it seems that the antichrist's seal--the mark of the beast--is a direct opposite of the Lord's sealing by the Holy Spirit.
My understanding on this (and granted it comes from tradition) is that it is impossible now days to commit the unpardonable/unforgivable sin. During Jesus' first visit -- many religious leaders were condemning Jesus of performing miracles based upon the power of the Devil. Rather than praising God for the miracle healings and casting out demons.... they stated the power being performed was from Satan. From this appears the "blasphemy of the Holy Spirit" appears to be when one encounters a miracle of God's power and insist that it was not God's power which performed it. |
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Post by tiffanybw on Aug 2, 2017 16:34:11 GMT -6
I know the subject of the unpardonable sin is a very frightening subject, and questions about what it might be all too often scare people into thinking they might have committed it (I was one of those in my young years), so with that in mind and in concern to not derail this thread with a complicated conversation about what the verse means, I just want to ask a question specifically related to the concept of how it might relate to the mark of the beast.
I was just wondering if the mark of the beast is exactly what this verse is pointing to...? After all, we believers are sealed with the Holy Spirit and forever in the Lord's hands and being shaped by Him into His likeness. Those who follow the antichrist... will they be sealed by the spirit of the Enemy of Souls and thus be forever in his hands as they are shaped into his evil likeness? That could certainly be connected in part to the DNA changes suggested, as they may become something other than human. But spiritually speaking, it seems that the antichrist's seal--the mark of the beast--is a direct opposite of the Lord's sealing by the Holy Spirit.
I would start by asking some questions to create a baseline: 1. What is blasphemy? merriam-websters online dictionary says (in part): "...the act of insulting or showing contempt or lack of reverence for God" But in the case of blaspheming against the Holy Spirit, I would change the definition to: "the act of insulting or showing contempt or lack of reverence for the Holy Spirit (of God)" 2. What is it to insult, show contempt, or lack of reverence for the Holy Spirit (of God)? In what way is that done? If we can understand the mechanics of blaspheming the Holy Spirit, I believe we can deduce an answer to the question of "What makes taking the mark unforgivable?" Is it the ultimate rejection of God by siding with Satan? Is it the exhibition of the maximum amount of pride possible for an individual to explicitly, willfully, side with the enemy; and by doing so, essentially claim that Satan is right and God is wrong? I'm so excited right now! Whatif, early in my walk with Christ which hasn't really been all that long, only since 2010, I was also very concerned and worried that I had committed the unforgivable sin. In just reading your post as I read what you said about the mark of the beast in fact being the unforgivable sin... I don't know... Something just clicked! And I think you are right. Then I read yardstick's post which is above, and even more so, I believe that indeed it could be that taking the mark of the beast is indeed the unforgivable sin. Like yardstick said, first we need to define the word blasphemy. Definition online is: n. A contemptuous or profane act, utterance, or writing concerning God or a sacred entity.n. The act of claiming for oneself the attributes and rights of God.n. An irreverent or impious act, attitude, or utterance in regard to something considered inviolable or sacrosanctI'm not sure how to go about doing this, but maybe someone who is familiar with the Hebrew, with seeing what the original word that was used in those verses to describe in the original language, could someone do that and let us all know what it means? What I am thinking though, and going to do the best I can to put it into words as my mind is a bit jumbled right now. But, like whatif said, when we accept Jesus as Lord and Savior we are sealed by The Holy Spirit. And (not 100%), but in going with my line of thought and belief that I shared with you all (so glad I did and I thought I would be called some kind of loon because I discussed this once with my sister and she just sat there in silence with the most confused look on her face and then after looked at me like maybe I must be half nuts lol); in going with my belief though, or hypothesis I guess (I'm NOT at all a scientific person)... when we are saved we are sealed with The Holy Spirit and The Holy Spirit is our mark to show that we belong to God. In addition, it changes our DNA in a way that is not visible to the naked eye, and has never scientifically been proven; changes it to make us like Jesus. And one day, when Jesus returns for us, there will also be a physical change (I'm not sure what all the dimensions mean but I would love to hear more) to where we are "born" and made in God's Image. Off track a little and sorry because my thoughts are all over right now, but when God created Adam and Eve, before the fall, and before Satan tempted Eve, believed him when he said, "Thou shall not surely die!"; just that at that time both Adam and Eve were already created perfect and fully in God's Image. It's when Eve took Satan up on his offer that *I think* genetically, DNA, blood... she changed and was corrupted. Then Adam ate and he was also corrupted. And yes, they did surely die, just as God had warned them they would if they ate from that tree So... because of that, God, He loved us so much, He made a plan to redeem us back to Him so that we could be His again. Jesus was born, God made flesh, 100% God and 100% human, the ONLY human to have never sinned. He died and shed His Blood for us, His DNA because DNA is what is in the blood; and the Bible says that "life" is in the blood. Leviticus 17:11 "For the life of the flesh is in the blood: and I have given it to you upon the altar to make an atonement for your souls: for it is the blood that maketh an atonement for the soul."Jesus made atonement for us. Just mind blowing how much He loves us and how amazing He is, the lengths He went to for us to redeem us back unto His Father, back unto God! Ok. Next Pentecost happened, and the disciples were filled with, sealed with, The Holy Spirit. Ever since, when we sincerely, intentionally, reverently are willing to lay down our "corrupt", our flesh, and to faith on Him, we are redeemed back unto God. We become His. We are sealed with The Holy Spirit (our blood/DNA is changed). The Holy Spirit is specifically for us and is God's Mark. The Holy Spirit is here with us on earth and will always be until we go to Heaven and are "officially born", "officially changed", "physically redeemed" back unto God. Sealed. His. So, the mark of the beast, I would suggest it could be (not stating this as 100% fact) that taking that mark; which is Satan's seal... ugh... don't know how to say right but just that that IS the unforgivable sin. Not only are people who take the mark taking upon the "blood/DNA" of Satan and being sealed with it making them Satan's for eternity. But when these people are doing this, they are calling Satan "the one true God". Declaring that Satan and all that is evil and calling it, calling him "good", calling him their "only god", pledging eternal allegiance to him, therefore eternally forsaking and rejecting Yahweh God who IS the One True God, The Creator of All (including Satan). That is the ultimate sin. It is unforgivable. There is no coming back from that. And it is "blaspheming The Holy Spirit" because people are actually calling Satan God and they are taking Satan's blood/DNA, sealed in Satan's image which is in reality the mark of the beast. However, they are calling him god (can't bring myself to capitalize but that is what they are calling him); and being indwelt by Satan's mark instead of by Yahweh God's. No going back from that.  |
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Post by tiffanybw on Aug 2, 2017 16:44:26 GMT -6
Putting the above in perspective with Scotty's research and the videos he has done on you tube... Right now we are in the womb. We have been "conceived" but we are not yet truly "born again". The same as a fetus is a living person though, we are living and belong to Him. Excellent post, tiffanybw--so much great information and insight there!
One thing I've been thinking about in regards to the portion I quoted here from your post is that the horrific persecution of Christians going on in our world is a little like the world's attempt at abortion... trying to kill the baby before it is born...
Yes, abortion. Satan wants nothing more than to destroy us. As yardstick said, he is jealous of us, HATES us. Why? Because God chose us and not His First Creation, the Angels. Now, I'm not saying that we are "better" than angels. But I do believe that Satan looked at it that way. Not only that, but Satan has been after us since the beginning. First Adam and Eve. Then with the fallen angels (or watchers) and trying to corrupt the human bloodline so that Jesus could not be born. We'd have all been "hybrid nephilim" if God had let that go on and the Bible says that Noah's family was the ONLY one perfect in his generation. So most of the earth already was corrupted by that point and God HAD TO send the flood. If not there would have been no saving us. Also, God gave us a second chance. Look at all He has done in order to redeem us back to Him! Think how much He does love us that He has done all He has just so we could remain HIS and NOT Satan's. I'm positive that all God has done for us makes Satan seethe with anger and hate. God didn't give Satan or the fallen angels a second chance (at least not that I know of). Satan has been trying to take us from our Father for a very LONG time now. And he is still trying. He hates us with indescribable passion. He wants us to be in his image, as yardstick said. He wants us condemned for eternity the same way that he already is condemned for eternity. |
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Post by whatif on Aug 2, 2017 16:53:02 GMT -6
Tiffanybw, awesome posts! What you said is making a great deal of sense to me--and making my hair stand on end all at once!
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Post by tiffanybw on Aug 2, 2017 16:55:11 GMT -6
...For a long while now, I've always thought that the mark of the beast would be more than just a microchip. Definitely I think it could be implemented that way, that people have something injected into them; something foreign, maybe genetic, something not human, and some sort of artificial intelligence that once implanted will go throughout the body and change the complete DNA of the person to where the person will literally no longer be human and no longer made in God's Image. I believe that this "mark" is why the Bible refers to these times and the times to come "as in the days of Noah" (won't get too far into it but because of watchers who made wives of the daughters of men and due to that the human bloodline was completely corrupted; Noah and his family being the only ones that were not corrupted genetically). I also believe that this is why once any human takes the mark there is no going back, no changing one's mind, no calling upon the Lord to save you. Quite literally, genetically speaking, the person's DNA will no longer be human. They will be "other". Jesus and His Sacrifice will not apply to them... In addition, and I'm sorry if it seems crazy and way out there... But I believe that just as God will seal the people who turn to Him during the tribulation, in the same way God has sealed us who believe in Christ with The Holy Spirit. The moment we accepted Him as Lord and Savior we were sealed and NO ONE, NOTHING can ever take us from His Hand (this for us because we live in The Age of Grace which is soon coming to an end). Now, I think on a scientific level (I can't prove it but it's just what the Lord has put upon my heart), that when we accept Jesus as Lord and Savior that something in our DNA literally changes, we are marked by Him to show that we belong to Him and are His for eternity. ... Once we are "born", meaning once we get to Heaven and stand before Him; it's my belief that He will literally *change* us (giving us our eternal and glorified bodies, the EXACT SAME body that He already has now and has had since he was resurrected)... our DNA will be JUST LIKE His!... Ok. So now for the bad part. Think of Satan and who Satan is. He used to be the most beautiful angel in Heaven, held in the highest of esteem. Until he decided that "he was the highest", even higher than Yahweh God who created him. Satan is the antithesis of God, yet he also mimics God, copies God except twists it around into everything that God is NOT. He is the most evil, the most hateful, basically the most horrible parent anyone could ever possibly imagine having. He cares about NOTHING but himself. He does not "love" those who follow him. Not those who know they are following and worshiping him. And not those who are following him by default because they choose to reject Jesus. Satan wants to BE God. It's why that once he is cast down from Heaven (after trying to destroy and consume us, the male child), he will physically take over someone else's body (can be sure that person will not know Jesus as it would not be possible if they did); and that person will be the anti-Christ... ...In reading Revelations 12, just so happens that 1/3 of the "stars" are cast down with the dragon... Because Satan wants to be God, he is going to imitate God as he already has a million times before. The Holy Spirit at this point is gone and the world is ripe for deception and I imagine it will be so easy for him. He will proclaim himself God, and people will believe him. He will be the "head", as Christ is our Head. Those who receive the mark of the beast, I believe that they will be his "body". He is going to mark them and they are going to voluntarily and with their own free will choose Satan and the mark of the beast. And just as we are of Christ, right down to our DNA... they will be of Satan. Right down to their DNA which will be changed to be like his. Made in Satan's image. The image of the beast. 1. Since Satan is a counterfeiter, it totally would make sense that he wants man to conform to his image. This includes, but I do not believe is limited to: - a plan to genetically alter angels to allow them dominion: Angel theory of nephilim, gene splicing in humans to make them domiciles for angels, (i am sure there could be several more)...
- a plan to genetically alter humans to disallow them dominion (this may be the mark)...
2. There have been a few loose end hypotheses that have been bouncing around in my head, that I would like to share. These are the sorts of things that I have no data or evidence to back up, they are just hunches, or insights and they may not be accurate or correct:
- Satan's pride is fueled by jealousy and/or envy. He thinks he is better than humans are. He either does not realize (or does not accept) that angels were created to have a different role than humans.
- Satan's rebellion, due to item (a) is to try to wrestle away God's Creation from God, to show God that Satan is correct, that angels are better than humans, and to flagrantly demonstrate that we are not worthy of dominion, and that God made a mistake not giving angels dominion as his first creations.
3. That the Holy Spirit sealing believers alters their DNA in a way that cannot be observed is a fascinating hypothesis; and fits nicely with the flash of light in the womb description you also gave. I would suggest that such a DNA change might take us from 4 dimensional beings, to 10-dimensionally-capable beings. The completion of the transformation would not occur til we are with Jesus. It also would not be scientifically observable, because our scientific method can only deal with 4 dimensions! All other calculations are purely theoretical. They cannot be 'real'-ized.
4. Interestingly, the passage in Rev 12:3 says it was the dragon's tail that swept 1/3 of the stars from the heavens...
5. Hypothetically, if the mark genetically alters a human, it may also cause the human to release a pheromone that can be smelled. So it would be really easy for the 'pit crickets' to find someone with the mark to torment. There would be no place to hide! Your 'scent' gives you away!
Anyhow, great post!
Great post to you also! I agree with all you have said here. Not saying that we are 100% right, but I think we are on to something. All thanks for that to Him! He reveals to us what He wants to reveal to us and when He wants to. Because He Knows what is best for us, what we need to know, when we need to know it. Just as good parents raise their children, teaching them appropriately as they grow to as far as what they can understand and comprehend. That is what He does for us. I love Him so much!!! What do you think are the dimensions? I'm not scientifically minded and can't quite understand that part. Also, what about the dragon's tail is significant? (Probably a stupid question but I'm not sure so I'm asking.) lol |
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